1. I don't think BPB actually asks for positive trust. He has given me gift cards a few times and never asked me for any kind of rating or a vouch.
Yes because you didn't leave him green trust the first time
You seem easy to buy off.
I actually only gave him a positive rating the 1st time. However, I do think you do bring up a good point regarding the trust system. When two people trade with each other, there is generally exactly one person who is taking on risk to the trade, and the question is should a party give positive trust even if someone does not take any risk in a transaction? I tend to be pretty conservative when handing out positive trust, however some people argue that trades should be documented so it can be known that a trade occurred without incident.
2. I can think of a few people who won't accept escrow who are pretty well trusted, and I wouldn't consider them to be scammers. I don't think escrow really matters anyway because a) he asks for people to donate money to charity for payment for his gift cards, and b) gift cards purchased with stolen credit cards can take months to be discovered that they were purchased with a stolen credit card.
More proof he bought you off and blurred your reasoning. If he was using stolen CCs then it would be hard for him to show staff how everything is cash (btc?) paid for. Precisely why he refuses escrow.
When escrow is used, it is pretty rare that a term of the escrow agreement is that proof of payment via cash is used, especially when it comes to gift cards. Besides, I believe that he actually allowed grue access to his gyft account that showed many purchases of gift cards all with bitcoin. Also BPB has been largely inactive for ~6 months (up until recently), and if he was using stolen gift cards in the past, then people would have started to complain by now. I also fail to see how you conclude that I am being paid off.
3. People on default trust tend to be more active in market place sections and they tend to not be shill accounts. To see why people might not want to give things away to people not on default trust see
this thread, you will see that some people tend to claim giveaways multiple times via shill accounts, and that is simply not possible with default trust accounts because there are so fewer of them.
So if I did giveaways only to people who could make my trust green, you wouldn't think any thing of it?
That is not what he does. You are twisting my words.
6. He usually gives pretty steep discounts, and I would somewhat doubt that he would be able to sell so many gift cards at that discount in order to make up for all the money he has given away. Also as mentioned above he usually asks that people donate to charity in exchange for his gift cards.
Just building up more good feelings. It will help with the big scam to come!
Well lets run the numbers and see if him scamming by selling $2,000 gift cards for $200 (90% off, which is generally a smaller discount then what he typically gives).
In
this thread, he advertised that he was giving away $5 worth of bitcoin to the first 100 posters (I did not count the number of people who posted, but I would assume it would be 100). He spent at least $500 on this giveaway.
In
this thread, he gave away at least 34 gift cards worth $20 each, he spent at least $680 on this giveaway.
In
this thread, he gave away a single $25 gift card.
In
this post, he gave away 1
BTC to Dabs feed the children program, the value of the
BTC at the time was ~$350.
In
this thread, it he was giving away .02 to everyone that posted, and I counted 132 people that posted, based on the BTC value at the time, he spent at least $950 on this giveaway.
In
this thread, he was giving away $10 starbucks gift cards, and I counted 16 people that posted prior to him announcing that he was sold out. He spent at least $160 in this giveaway.
In
this thread, he gave away .02 to members+ that posted their BTC address, I counted 72 people who are members or greater as of now. Based on the price of BTC at the time, he spent at least $550 on this giveaway.
In
this thread, he was giving away .02 to everyone that posted their BTC address, I counted 62 people that posted. Based on the price of BTC at the time, he spent at least $475 on this giveaway.
In
this thread, he gave away a single $100 amazon gift card to someone.
In
this thread, Blazedout419 gave away a ASUS mobo + Core i7 + Corsair RAM + Zalman CPU cooler that he was asking $200 for on behalf of BPB, I would assume that blazedout received payment for this. BPB also gave away 9 $20 amazon gift cards in this thread. He gave away a total of $380 in this giveaway.
In
this thread, he gave away 14 $50 amazon gift cards. He gave away at least $700 in this giveaway.
In
this thread, he gave away (by my count), 74 $20 steam gift cards. He gave away at least $1,480 in this giveaway.
I decided to stop tallying up the amounts he gave away after going back 7 pages of his post history. By my calculations, he has given away at least $6,350 worth of bitcoin and gift cards, and this does not count gift cards given away this year and only goes back 7 pages in his posting history. This means that he would need to sell at least 32 $2,000 gift cards for 200 each
and take payment to an address that he controls (something he does not usually do). You also need to take into consideration that a good number of the people that claim his giveaways would probably not be buying a bunch of $2,000 gift cards.
One downside to BPB giving away so much money is that shortly after he left, I did notice that a lot of money launderers started showing up trying to sell StarBucks gift cards that were obviously originally purchased with stolen credit cards. I don't think that BPB is behind these accounts though as I don't think the amount of gift cards they have sold would come close to the amount of money that BPB has given away (although I may be wrong).
My impression of BPB is that he is a really nice guy. He told me that he has done this kind of thing on various other forums. As I mentioned previously, you need to exercise caution when trading with anyone, however my thought process would be that if I were to donate a small amount of money to a charity in exchange for one of BPB's giveaways, then the worse case scenario is that I have given away a little bit of money to a charity and received nothing (of financial value) in return, and I don't think that would be all that bad.
