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The price fell and you were "right"?

Time to take more courses in the metaphysics of causation... you might enjoy those.

Btw. What were the prices paid? Since you imply that you know. Otherwise, I might just ascribe any other number of events to the falling of the price. The auction seems the least probable in my mind.


Like the fact that you got an actor as your avatar... because your story is pure fiction.



it's looking like the prices paid at the auction are already known and leaked to the bigger players, or the players bidding in first place pumped to dump, then they will release price paid, significantly below price now and we will have a further CARSH

I would look to optimistic side and think price could be being manipulated donw now to accumalate based on a onday rally but record low of only 11 bidders were involved in auction
not looking good and imo we could see below 300 this week coming

looks like you should have listened to me, as I was right and you offered nothing at all. no insight

as said, you provided nothing
I cannot know the exact price of auction, however it is clear to even a child, clearly not you though, that there was a fake pump before the auction.
did you notice that ?
then dumped
it's called manipulation.

it will keep going down imo. it's as simple as that. as i type this is happening
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And you provided?

"the price has risen"
"the price has fallen"
"the price keeps falling"

Watch me do the same:

the stock market has moved up/down
the sun has risen
the sun has set

WHAT ANALYSIS! Now, even better:

I brushed my teeth, the sun set that night - my brushing my teeth has set the sun.

BRAVO!




The price fell and you were "right"?

Time to take more courses in the metaphysics of causation... you might enjoy those.

Btw. What were the prices paid? Since you imply that you know. Otherwise, I might just ascribe any other number of events to the falling of the price. The auction seems the least probable in my mind.


Like the fact that you got an actor as your avatar... because your story is pure fiction.



it's looking like the prices paid at the auction are already known and leaked to the bigger players, or the players bidding in first place pumped to dump, then they will release price paid, significantly below price now and we will have a further CARSH

I would look to optimistic side and think price could be being manipulated donw now to accumalate based on a onday rally but record low of only 11 bidders were involved in auction
not looking good and imo we could see below 300 this week coming

looks like you should have listened to me, as I was right and you offered nothing at all. no insight

as said, you provided nothing
I cannot know the exact price of auction, however it is clear to even a child, clearly not you though, that there was a fake pump before the auction.
did you notice that ?
then dumped
it's called manipulation.

it will keep going down imo. it's as simple as that. as i type this is happening
legendary
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The price fell and you were "right"?

Time to take more courses in the metaphysics of causation... you might enjoy those.

Btw. What were the prices paid? Since you imply that you know. Otherwise, I might just ascribe any other number of events to the falling of the price. The auction seems the least probable in my mind.


Like the fact that you got an actor as your avatar... because your story is pure fiction.



it's looking like the prices paid at the auction are already known and leaked to the bigger players, or the players bidding in first place pumped to dump, then they will release price paid, significantly below price now and we will have a further CARSH

I would look to optimistic side and think price could be being manipulated donw now to accumalate based on a onday rally but record low of only 11 bidders were involved in auction
not looking good and imo we could see below 300 this week coming

looks like you should have listened to me, as I was right and you offered nothing at all. no insight

as said, you provided nothing
I cannot know the exact price of auction, however it is clear to even a child, clearly not you though, that there was a fake pump before the auction.
did you notice that ?
then dumped
it's called manipulation.

it will keep going down imo. it's as simple as that. as i type this is happening
hero member
Activity: 627
Merit: 500
The price fell and you were "right"?

Time to take more courses in the metaphysics of causation... you might enjoy those.

Btw. What were the prices paid? Since you imply that you know. Otherwise, I might just ascribe any other number of events to the falling of the price. The auction seems the least probable in my mind.


Like the fact that you got an actor as your avatar... because your story is pure fiction.



it's looking like the prices paid at the auction are already known and leaked to the bigger players, or the players bidding in first place pumped to dump, then they will release price paid, significantly below price now and we will have a further CARSH

I would look to optimistic side and think price could be being manipulated donw now to accumalate based on a onday rally but record low of only 11 bidders were involved in auction
not looking good and imo we could see below 300 this week coming

looks like you should have listened to me, as I was right and you offered nothing at all. no insight
legendary
Activity: 1061
Merit: 1001
Like the fact that you got an actor as your avatar... because your story is pure fiction.



it's looking like the prices paid at the auction are already known and leaked to the bigger players, or the players bidding in first place pumped to dump, then they will release price paid, significantly below price now and we will have a further CARSH

I would look to optimistic side and think price could be being manipulated donw now to accumalate based on a onday rally but record low of only 11 bidders were involved in auction
not looking good and imo we could see below 300 this week coming

looks like you should have listened to me, as I was right and you offered nothing at all. no insight
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That's more than interesting. I thought the winners of the auctioned SilkRoad coins would remain in silence. 5 blocks of 2000BTC each equals 3.8 million US dollars with current rates. It surprises me that they are openly releasing this information, but the purchasing price will not be available I guess  Wink
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^The $20 drop pure coincidence, or because winning bidders had to pay a huge premium above market & had to dump?

The types of investors who are attending these auctions are not going to go through the process just to immediately dump the coins.  It's not even anywhere in the region of realistic
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^The $20 drop pure coincidence, or because winning bidders had to pay a huge premium above market & had to dump?
hero member
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Like the fact that you got an actor as your avatar... because your story is pure fiction.



it's looking like the prices paid at the auction are already known and leaked to the bigger players, or the players bidding in first place pumped to dump, then they will release price paid, significantly below price now and we will have a further CARSH

I would look to optimistic side and think price could be being manipulated donw now to accumalate based on a onday rally but record low of only 11 bidders were involved in auction
not looking good and imo we could see below 300 this week coming
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5 pages and zero information.

good job guys  Cheesy

@topic

i hope we will get some infos soon, its already monday in europe Smiley
legendary
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it's looking like the prices paid at the auction are already known and leaked to the bigger players, or the players bidding in first place pumped to dump, then they will release price paid, significantly below price now and we will have a further CARSH

I would look to optimistic side and think price could be being manipulated donw now to accumalate based on a onday rally but record low of only 11 bidders were involved in auction
not looking good and imo we could see below 300 this week coming
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Activity: 560
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All it takes is one moderately sized country to accept bitcoin for another country's banning it to have little impact.  File sharing is illegal too, dumbass.  So are drugs.  How do they stop people from file sharing?  Happens every day on an extremely large scale.  The joke is on government and their banks

All it takes for pigs to fly is tota and complete absence of gravity and/or a set of powerful wings. Sadly (for the pigs, that is, not for the rest of us not interested in being pelted by pigshit), neither is any more likely to happen than a country adopting Bitcoin as its legal tender.

Regarding file sharing, you can't stop people from doing it completely -- you, for instance, will keep downloading warez forever, due to your angsty thieving nature.
But normal people? We pay people for their work instead of sharing stealing it like you do, Wild One Smiley

I didn't say "adopt it as legal tender" I said "accept it" It certainly doesn't need to be somehow officially recognized to be wildly successful.

Either way, making Bitcoin illegal will have about the same impact as stopping mad gunmen from opening fire in gun free zones, and it will be even less successful than making file sharing illegal

Most governments already let you to play with your tokens, just like you're free to invest in and trade BTCeanie BTCabies. As long as it remains mostly irrelevant, kept to crooks robbing other, dumber crooks, why should governments intervene? Which is not to say that as soon as bitcoiners get a dose of surprise buttsecs from their fellow crypto aficionados, they don't cry like little girls & run straight to Nanny State and her Jackbooted Thugs to make it all better.

As for 'mad gunmen in gun-free zones'? Please limit your rage to teh internets & try not to hurt IRL people, k Wild One?

Exactly, most governments already let you use Bitcoin. Mostly irrelevant??  Is that why Dell, Microsoft and PayPal are getting their feet wet with Bitcoin.  Maybe you haven't heard of those companies...

Mostly irrelevant because Bitcoin's market cap is roughly double net worth of Ty Warner -- the genius behind BTCeanie BTCbabies.

Mostly irrelevant because mentioned companies do not accept bitcoin, but rather USD.
"In other words, Dell, Expedia, Microsoft, and Time, Inc. don’t actually “accept” bitcoins, per se. They accept U.S. dollars. It’s their bitcoin processing partners who accept bitcoin."


Though, I must concede,there are a few markets where Bitcoin is making substantial inroads.
Take criminal-to-criminal payments, for instance.
"Europol said that, according to its data, bitcoin accounts for as much as 40% of criminal-to-criminal payments online."

Excelsior!

Going from a market cap of $0 to $5 Billion in 6 years for something that was started by a bunch of geeks and talked down upon by the media is an enormous gain by any standard.  What was Apple's market cap after 6 years?  I'm curious?

here's what I do know.  Apple was founded in 1976.  In 1983 their annual revenue was $1 Billion Dollars.  In 1996, (20 years later) their market cap began declining from $10 Billion.  Bitcoin touched $10 Billion in the first 5 years LOL.  And there's plenty of room to grow considering that currencies are comprised of Trillion Dollar markets.

It's also a big step that you can pay for things with Bitcoin regardless of whether or not the currency is being instantly converted.  The more places that you can spend bitcoin (by any method) the more comfortable businesses and individuals will start getting to the idea of bitcoin in general.  Eventually, conversions won't even be necessary.  Because why convert when you can make up to thousand percent gains holding bitcoins for a few years.

And, lastly, Bitcoin has a LONG way to go to catch up to the criminal usage of the US Dollar, which is surely measured in the hundreds of billions!  Cheesy

Say hi to your other troll friends for me...that is if they're not all being used by the same account holder.  

Lol, @ all the backpedaling, 'Going from a market cap of $0 to $5 Billion in 6 years for something that was started by a bunch of geeks.'
Sure, when you start from nothing and end up with something, that's impressive; infinite % growth. That's also how every ponzi in the world works. Tho over the last 2 years, bit-coin has already lost 2/3 of its value on its way to zero.
For dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return Cool

To put your 5 billion in perspective, the first iteration of Sergei Mavrodi's MMM ponzi snagged $10 Billion, so satoshi's paper $5 Billion is just meh. Sure, better than the shit ponzis created on bitcointalk, but meh nevertheless. And Bitcoin's 'market cap' is pure paper -- Bitcoin price would implode if someone tried to sell as little as, oh, a million bitcoins Undecided

As far as catching up to fiat's real money's criminal usage, compare Bitcoin's 5 billion 'market cap' to real money's $25 trillion. 5 million times more fiat, and yet "bitcoin accounts for as much as 40% of criminal-to-criminal payments online." Shocked
I got nothing, guess I'll just bloviate...
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For me, all that matters is that artificial sell pressure (by selling seized coins that likely wouldn't have all been for sale) has been diminished further.  FBI has that many less coins to artificially "increase supply" with moving forward.

Hey, did you forget about GOXcoin disgorgement?  And, since "bitcoin accounts for as much as 40% of criminal-to-criminal payments online," all Teh Man has to do is keep busting you, taking away your coins, and then selling them back to you. Profit! Smiley

Hey, did you forget that we're $225 higher than where we were several months ago?  Obviously the market is not so discouraged about what happened at Mt. Gox 2 years ago.  

Even if your metrics on the amount of criminal activity funded through bitcoin was correct, it is still hundreds of billions of dollars less than criminal activity that is funded with US Dollars.  It's absolutely no contest, mate.  

Here are several links about HSBC being fined for laundering billions of dollars for terrorists and drug cartels.  According to your own reasoning, US Dollars should be dumped immediately because it supports a hell of a lot of criminal activity.  

http://www.theguardian.com/business/2012/jul/17/hsbc-executive-resigns-senate
http://www.forbes.com/sites/afontevecchia/2012/07/16/hsbc-helped-terrorists-iran-mexican-drug-cartels-launder-money-senate-report-says/

And it's not so easy for the government to steal bitcoins.  You do realize they had to go to the library in disguise and wait for ross ulbricht to enter his password before they raided him?  If Ross had decided to surf porn that day instead, they would not have been able to take anything.  A valuable lesson has been learned.  If you're concerned about your private keys, keep your laptop/computer/trezor/paper wallet in a private place.  It would be much easier for the government (or any hacker) to take funds out of your bank account.

So how do you like trolling for the banks?  Do they pay you in bitcoin to talk trash? Or do they just counterfeit new dollars from the printing press and pay you with those devalued notes?  Cheesy
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All it takes is one moderately sized country to accept bitcoin for another country's banning it to have little impact.  File sharing is illegal too, dumbass.  So are drugs.  How do they stop people from file sharing?  Happens every day on an extremely large scale.  The joke is on government and their banks

All it takes for pigs to fly is tota and complete absence of gravity and/or a set of powerful wings. Sadly (for the pigs, that is, not for the rest of us not interested in being pelted by pigshit), neither is any more likely to happen than a country adopting Bitcoin as its legal tender.

Regarding file sharing, you can't stop people from doing it completely -- you, for instance, will keep downloading warez forever, due to your angsty thieving nature.
But normal people? We pay people for their work instead of sharing stealing it like you do, Wild One Smiley

I didn't say "adopt it as legal tender" I said "accept it" It certainly doesn't need to be somehow officially recognized to be wildly successful.

Either way, making Bitcoin illegal will have about the same impact as stopping mad gunmen from opening fire in gun free zones, and it will be even less successful than making file sharing illegal

Most governments already let you to play with your tokens, just like you're free to invest in and trade BTCeanie BTCabies. As long as it remains mostly irrelevant, kept to crooks robbing other, dumber crooks, why should governments intervene? Which is not to say that as soon as bitcoiners get a dose of surprise buttsecs from their fellow crypto aficionados, they don't cry like little girls & run straight to Nanny State and her Jackbooted Thugs to make it all better.

As for 'mad gunmen in gun-free zones'? Please limit your rage to teh internets & try not to hurt IRL people, k Wild One?

Exactly, most governments already let you use Bitcoin. Mostly irrelevant??  Is that why Dell, Microsoft and PayPal are getting their feet wet with Bitcoin.  Maybe you haven't heard of those companies...

Mostly irrelevant because Bitcoin's market cap is roughly double net worth of Ty Warner -- the genius behind BTCeanie BTCbabies.

Mostly irrelevant because mentioned companies do not accept bitcoin, but rather USD.
"In other words, Dell, Expedia, Microsoft, and Time, Inc. don’t actually “accept” bitcoins, per se. They accept U.S. dollars. It’s their bitcoin processing partners who accept bitcoin."


Though, I must concede,there are a few markets where Bitcoin is making substantial inroads.
Take criminal-to-criminal payments, for instance.
"Europol said that, according to its data, bitcoin accounts for as much as 40% of criminal-to-criminal payments online."

Excelsior!

Going from a market cap of $0 to $5 Billion in 6 years for something that was started by a bunch of geeks and talked down upon by the media is an enormous gain by any standard.  What was Apple's market cap after 6 years?  I'm curious?

here's what I do know.  Apple was founded in 1976.  In 1983 their annual revenue was $1 Billion Dollars.  In 1996, (20 years later) their market cap began declining from $10 Billion.  Bitcoin touched $10 Billion in the first 5 years LOL.  And there's plenty of room to grow considering that currencies are comprised of Trillion Dollar markets.

It's also a big step that you can pay for things with Bitcoin regardless of whether or not the currency is being instantly converted.  The more places that you can spend bitcoin (by any method) the more comfortable businesses and individuals will start getting to the idea of bitcoin in general.  Eventually, conversions won't even be necessary.  Because why convert when you can make up to thousand percent gains holding bitcoins for a few years.

And, lastly, Bitcoin has a LONG way to go to catch up to the criminal usage of the US Dollar, which is surely measured in the hundreds of billions!  Cheesy

Say hi to your other troll friends for me...that is if they're not all being used by the same account holder.  

Lol, @ all the backpedaling, 'Going from a market cap of $0 to $5 Billion in 6 years for something that was started by a bunch of geeks.'
Sure, when you start from nothing and end up with something, that's impressive; infinite % growth. That's also how every ponzi in the world works. Tho over the last 2 years, bit-coin has already lost 2/3 of its value on its way to zero.
For dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return Cool

To put your 5 billion in perspective, the first iteration of Sergei Mavrodi's MMM ponzi snagged $10 Billion, so satoshi's paper $5 Billion is just meh. Sure, better than the shit ponzis created on bitcointalk, but meh nevertheless. And Bitcoin's 'market cap' is pure paper -- Bitcoin price would implode if someone tried to sell as little as, oh, a million bitcoins Undecided

As far as catching up to fiat's real money's criminal usage, compare Bitcoin's 5 billion 'market cap' to real money's $25 trillion. 5 million times more fiat, and yet "bitcoin accounts for as much as 40% of criminal-to-criminal payments online." Shocked
I got nothing, guess I'll just bloviate...
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For me, all that matters is that artificial sell pressure (by selling seized coins that likely wouldn't have all been for sale) has been diminished further.  FBI has that many less coins to artificially "increase supply" with moving forward.

Hey, did you forget about GOXcoin disgorgement?  And, since "bitcoin accounts for as much as 40% of criminal-to-criminal payments online," all Teh Man has to do is keep busting you, taking away your coins, and then selling them back to you. Profit! Smiley
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I think we might hear from the loser of the auction. I think the price will have gone over market. Well over in fact. Buying that many coins, I think we will find out 400 is a losing bid on all blocks.

Let's see what happens on Monday. Something will leak.

i am more interested in what the actual buying price was for the auctioned coins. don't think it's much higher or lower than the market price.

Have we found out what one winner paid out of any of the auctions? Tim Draper wouldn't say and I can only remember a few losing bidders who disclosed what they bid. I don't think any of this auction's winners will disclose what they bid, one or two losing bidders might.

For me, all that matters is that artificial sell pressure (by selling seized coins that likely wouldn't have all been for sale) has been diminished further.  FBI has that many less coins to artificially "increase supply" with moving forward.  
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No, I don't remember winning prices. But, we got past losing bids. I think that will leak again.

Let's see.


I think we might hear from the loser of the auction. I think the price will have gone over market. Well over in fact. Buying that many coins, I think we will find out 400 is a losing bid on all blocks.

Let's see what happens on Monday. Something will leak.

i am more interested in what the actual buying price was for the auctioned coins. don't think it's much higher or lower than the market price.

Have we found out what one winner paid out of any of the auctions? Tim Draper wouldn't say and I can only remember a few losing bidders who disclosed what they bid. I don't think any of this auction's winners will disclose what they bid, one or two losing bidders might.
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I think we might hear from the loser of the auction. I think the price will have gone over market. Well over in fact. Buying that many coins, I think we will find out 400 is a losing bid on all blocks.

Let's see what happens on Monday. Something will leak.

i am more interested in what the actual buying price was for the auctioned coins. don't think it's much higher or lower than the market price.

Have we found out what one winner paid out of any of the auctions? Tim Draper wouldn't say and I can only remember a few losing bidders who disclosed what they bid. I don't think any of this auction's winners will disclose what they bid, one or two losing bidders might.
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All it takes is one moderately sized country to accept bitcoin for another country's banning it to have little impact.  File sharing is illegal too, dumbass.  So are drugs.  How do they stop people from file sharing?  Happens every day on an extremely large scale.  The joke is on government and their banks

All it takes for pigs to fly is tota and complete absence of gravity and/or a set of powerful wings. Sadly (for the pigs, that is, not for the rest of us not interested in being pelted by pigshit), neither is any more likely to happen than a country adopting Bitcoin as its legal tender.

Regarding file sharing, you can't stop people from doing it completely -- you, for instance, will keep downloading warez forever, due to your angsty thieving nature.
But normal people? We pay people for their work instead of sharing stealing it like you do, Wild One Smiley

I didn't say "adopt it as legal tender" I said "accept it" It certainly doesn't need to be somehow officially recognized to be wildly successful.

Either way, making Bitcoin illegal will have about the same impact as stopping mad gunmen from opening fire in gun free zones, and it will be even less successful than making file sharing illegal

Most governments already let you to play with your tokens, just like you're free to invest in and trade BTCeanie BTCabies. As long as it remains mostly irrelevant, kept to crooks robbing other, dumber crooks, why should governments intervene? Which is not to say that as soon as bitcoiners get a dose of surprise buttsecs from their fellow crypto aficionados, they don't cry like little girls & run straight to Nanny State and her Jackbooted Thugs to make it all better.

As for 'mad gunmen in gun-free zones'? Please limit your rage to teh internets & try not to hurt IRL people, k Wild One?

Exactly, most governments already let you use Bitcoin. Mostly irrelevant??  Is that why Dell, Microsoft and PayPal are getting their feet wet with Bitcoin.  Maybe you haven't heard of those companies...

Mostly irrelevant because Bitcoin's market cap is roughly double net worth of Ty Warner -- the genius behind BTCeanie BTCbabies.

Mostly irrelevant because mentioned companies do not accept bitcoin, but rather USD.
"In other words, Dell, Expedia, Microsoft, and Time, Inc. don’t actually “accept” bitcoins, per se. They accept U.S. dollars. It’s their bitcoin processing partners who accept bitcoin."


Though, I must concede,there are a few markets where Bitcoin is making substantial inroads.
Take criminal-to-criminal payments, for instance.
"Europol said that, according to its data, bitcoin accounts for as much as 40% of criminal-to-criminal payments online."

Excelsior!

Going from a market cap of $0 to $5 Billion in 6 years for something that was started by a bunch of geeks and talked down upon by the media is an enormous gain by any standard.  What was Apple's market cap after 6 years?  I'm curious?

here's what I do know.  Apple was founded in 1976.  In 1983 their annual revenue was $1 Billion Dollars.  In 1996, (20 years later) their market cap began declining from $10 Billion.  Bitcoin touched $10 Billion in the first 5 years LOL.  And there's plenty of room to grow considering that currencies are comprised of Trillion Dollar markets.

It's also a big step that you can pay for things with Bitcoin regardless of whether or not the currency is being instantly converted.  The more places that you can spend bitcoin (by any method) the more comfortable businesses and individuals will start getting to the idea of bitcoin in general.  Eventually, conversions won't even be necessary.  Because why convert when you can make up to thousand percent gains holding bitcoins for a few years.

And, lastly, Bitcoin has a LONG way to go to catch up to the criminal usage of the US Dollar, which is surely measured in the hundreds of billions!  Cheesy

Say hi to your other troll friends for me...that is if they're not all being used by the same account holder.  

Lol, @ all the backpedaling, 'Going from a market cap of $0 to $5 Billion in 6 years for something that was started by a bunch of geeks.'
Sure, when you start from nothing and end up with something, that's impressive; infinite % growth. That's also how every ponzi in the world works. Tho over the last 2 years, bit-coin has already lost 2/3 of its value on its way to zero.
For dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return Cool

To put your 5 billion in perspective, the first iteration of Sergei Mavrodi's MMM ponzi snagged $10 Billion, so satoshi's paper $5 Billion is just meh. Sure, better than the shit ponzis created on bitcointalk, but meh nevertheless. And Bitcoin's 'market cap' is pure paper -- Bitcoin price would implode if someone tried to sell as little as, oh, a million bitcoins Undecided

As far as catching up to fiat's real money's criminal usage, compare Bitcoin's 5 billion 'market cap' to real money's $25 trillion. 5 million times more fiat, and yet "bitcoin accounts for as much as 40% of criminal-to-criminal payments online." Shocked

Backpedaling?? Have you taken your meds today?   Cheesy You were all acting like Bitcoin is insignificant.  Yet it has grown like 5 times faster than Apple did in its first decade.  Bitcoin could only be a ponzi scheme if every currency on the planet is a ponzi scheme. Bitcoin just happens to do currency better than governments can (not to mention currency is only one particular function served by Bitcoin, it also functions as a trustless, secure data storage and retrieval system, but I digress.)  Because it's a decentralized open-source network that can transmit data and value virtually instantaneously for little to no fee with no borders or boundaries and all without a middleman (ie. criminal banks!)  No wonder it has gone up in value by 3 Million Percent in only 6 years. Find me a ponzi scheme with fundamentals that strong and you can call me susan.

Bitcoin lost nearly 85% of its value after every previous bull & bear market cycle.  And then, after each downtrend, it eventually turns around and passes it's previous all-time-high by many multiples!  We are still up wayyyy over 3 Million Percent since 6 years ago and we're up over $200 from the bottom of this cycle (around $150-ish) several months ago.  The Bitcoin charts are exhibiting tendencies of a market cycle that has ended its bear trend and now, with a greater distribution of bitcoins after all the selling, it appears to be entering into the next bull cycle  Grin

Send my condolences to your bankster employers  Cheesy
The Death of Central Banks is nigh

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All it takes is one moderately sized country to accept bitcoin for another country's banning it to have little impact.  File sharing is illegal too, dumbass.  So are drugs.  How do they stop people from file sharing?  Happens every day on an extremely large scale.  The joke is on government and their banks

All it takes for pigs to fly is tota and complete absence of gravity and/or a set of powerful wings. Sadly (for the pigs, that is, not for the rest of us not interested in being pelted by pigshit), neither is any more likely to happen than a country adopting Bitcoin as its legal tender.

Regarding file sharing, you can't stop people from doing it completely -- you, for instance, will keep downloading warez forever, due to your angsty thieving nature.
But normal people? We pay people for their work instead of sharing stealing it like you do, Wild One Smiley

I didn't say "adopt it as legal tender" I said "accept it" It certainly doesn't need to be somehow officially recognized to be wildly successful.

Either way, making Bitcoin illegal will have about the same impact as stopping mad gunmen from opening fire in gun free zones, and it will be even less successful than making file sharing illegal

Most governments already let you to play with your tokens, just like you're free to invest in and trade BTCeanie BTCabies. As long as it remains mostly irrelevant, kept to crooks robbing other, dumber crooks, why should governments intervene? Which is not to say that as soon as bitcoiners get a dose of surprise buttsecs from their fellow crypto aficionados, they don't cry like little girls & run straight to Nanny State and her Jackbooted Thugs to make it all better.

As for 'mad gunmen in gun-free zones'? Please limit your rage to teh internets & try not to hurt IRL people, k Wild One?

Exactly, most governments already let you use Bitcoin. Mostly irrelevant??  Is that why Dell, Microsoft and PayPal are getting their feet wet with Bitcoin.  Maybe you haven't heard of those companies...

Mostly irrelevant because Bitcoin's market cap is roughly double net worth of Ty Warner -- the genius behind BTCeanie BTCbabies.

Mostly irrelevant because mentioned companies do not accept bitcoin, but rather USD.
"In other words, Dell, Expedia, Microsoft, and Time, Inc. don’t actually “accept” bitcoins, per se. They accept U.S. dollars. It’s their bitcoin processing partners who accept bitcoin."


Though, I must concede,there are a few markets where Bitcoin is making substantial inroads.
Take criminal-to-criminal payments, for instance.
"Europol said that, according to its data, bitcoin accounts for as much as 40% of criminal-to-criminal payments online."

Excelsior!

Going from a market cap of $0 to $5 Billion in 6 years for something that was started by a bunch of geeks and talked down upon by the media is an enormous gain by any standard.  What was Apple's market cap after 6 years?  I'm curious?

here's what I do know.  Apple was founded in 1976.  In 1983 their annual revenue was $1 Billion Dollars.  In 1996, (20 years later) their market cap began declining from $10 Billion.  Bitcoin touched $10 Billion in the first 5 years LOL.  And there's plenty of room to grow considering that currencies are comprised of Trillion Dollar markets.

It's also a big step that you can pay for things with Bitcoin regardless of whether or not the currency is being instantly converted.  The more places that you can spend bitcoin (by any method) the more comfortable businesses and individuals will start getting to the idea of bitcoin in general.  Eventually, conversions won't even be necessary.  Because why convert when you can make up to thousand percent gains holding bitcoins for a few years.

And, lastly, Bitcoin has a LONG way to go to catch up to the criminal usage of the US Dollar, which is surely measured in the hundreds of billions!  Cheesy

Say hi to your other troll friends for me...that is if they're not all being used by the same account holder.  

Lol, @ all the backpedaling, 'Going from a market cap of $0 to $5 Billion in 6 years for something that was started by a bunch of geeks.'
Sure, when you start from nothing and end up with something, that's impressive; infinite % growth. That's also how every ponzi in the world works. Tho over the last 2 years, bit-coin has already lost 2/3 of its value on its way to zero.
For dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return Cool

To put your 5 billion in perspective, the first iteration of Sergei Mavrodi's MMM ponzi snagged $10 Billion, so satoshi's paper $5 Billion is just meh. Sure, better than the shit ponzis created on bitcointalk, but meh nevertheless. And Bitcoin's 'market cap' is pure paper -- Bitcoin price would implode if someone tried to sell as little as, oh, a million bitcoins Undecided

As far as catching up to fiat's real money's criminal usage, compare Bitcoin's 5 billion 'market cap' to real money's $25 trillion. 5 million times more fiat, and yet "bitcoin accounts for as much as 40% of criminal-to-criminal payments online." Shocked
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