US or China: Who would win the AI race? - page 2.

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Quote from: SnowAugustine on October 17, 2018, 09:24:27 AM

It seems US is taking the heat and will not be left as 2nd place... http://www.nationmultimedia.com/detail/breakingnews/30356582
The Massachusetts Institute of Technology announced plans Monday to create a new college of artificial intelligence with an initial $1 billion commitment for the program focusing on "responsible and ethical" uses of the technology.
The initiative comes amid growing concerns about the impacts of artificial intelligence on global institutions, and fears that China is overtaking the United States in this field."There is no more important opportunity or challenge facing our nation than to responsibly harness the power of artificial intelligence so that we remain competitive globally and achieve breakthroughs that will improve our entire society

Perhaps, but not quite. MIT will use the money to create a new college focusing on artificial intelligence, while China is already out there in the process of creating an actual AI. Seems to me China is ahead of the game.

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It seems US is taking the heat and will not be left as 2nd place... http://www.nationmultimedia.com/detail/breakingnews/30356582
The Massachusetts Institute of Technology announced plans Monday to create a new college of artificial intelligence with an initial $1 billion commitment for the program focusing on "responsible and ethical" uses of the technology.
The initiative comes amid growing concerns about the impacts of artificial intelligence on global institutions, and fears that China is overtaking the United States in this field."There is no more important opportunity or challenge facing our nation than to responsibly harness the power of artificial intelligence so that we remain competitive globally and achieve breakthroughs that will improve our entire society

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US would win this race.

Be like this: China invents the greatest AI and will be offered to US.

*US buys it, China makes money and just reinvent similar to it. While US did nothing but bought all the credits and liabilities that's what they have been doing effortlessly.

But don't forget about Japan.

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I would say the United States will win again. Brainpower of the all the people (capitalism) will win over the brainpower of a few people (communism).

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Quote from: TECSHARE on October 12, 2018, 12:44:20 AM

More importantly they don't give a shit about human or civil rights. AI will be deployed, manufactured, and in use there more, but the US still has the edge in development. That is why China is constantly trying to steal technology via espionage, hacking, or simply buying it out.

Agreed. Their lack of care for human or civil rights may actually be the reason for the AI progress in their country. They do steal a lot of tech but some argue that when they steal something they actually put an effort to improve on the idea that they stole. This is in turn good for AI technology as it continues to improve. It will already depend on China on how they would use it in their country or even the world.

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Quote from: TTshingeki on October 12, 2018, 12:47:58 AM

Are you forget Russian ? I think Russia also is country develop AI very strong but AI has many dangers if we couldn't control it. As Stephen Hawking says "A.I. could be 'worst event in the history of our civilization"

I really don't see a lot of AI related news involving Russia although it's fact that a lot of internet hackers are linked to Russia. If they are also developing an advanced AI then we are not hearing enough of it. But then again, that may be typical of Russia.

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Some people just won't take that other are ahead, they want to be the first and it's the crab mentality that forms competition. Sometimes it's healthy, sometimes it's violent, but most importantly, it should enhance people's lives and not just about business. The selfishness should be stopped, but I doubt that it will. Well, I don't get to have a part in whether who is the first to create the perfect AI, I would just support the first one. Then there's room for more competition.

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Well the answer is fairly obvious. The US had to use Chinese microchips and circuits in their latest fighter plane, so I guess they will need to use Chinese chips to develop AI.

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Quote from: TECSHARE on October 12, 2018, 12:44:20 AM

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Quote from: SnowAugustine on October 11, 2018, 11:15:26 AM

China is planning to overtake the US in terms of Artificial Intelligence. Some researchers AI would be like the internet of the future. It's going to be really necessary for life in the future and China wants to lead. How high do you think is the possibility of China being able to do so?

Overtake the US? I don't think so. Do you mean become the central country for AI? Yes. In this case, China will get ahead, especially since they got the biggest funding when it comes to creating AI. It's only a matter of time now before they create a fully functioning AI.

More importantly they don't give a shit about human or civil rights. AI will be deployed, manufactured, and in use there more, but the US still has the edge in development. That is why China is constantly trying to steal technology via espionage, hacking, or simply buying it out.

I think I agree with both of you. China could have the biggest funding received to create AI, but sometimes China lacks creativity and imagination, which is where I think the US will get ahead on. Also, has anyone else considered Japan? Or what about the UK?

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Quote from: drmilind2004 on October 13, 2018, 08:16:20 AM

Quote from: Indamuck on October 13, 2018, 06:57:13 AM

As stated earlier in this thread, AI will be the only winner. The development of Artificial Intelligence is very concerning and it scares me. I think we should really stop advancing the technology because eventually it will be too intelligent to control. Once the cat is out of the bag it will be too late and robots will reign over humans. Some say its inevitable that this will happen but all we have to do is stop developing A.I.

It's all FUD. Exactly like the FUD surrounding Bitcoin.

We need to summon courage, and build up our nerves, be brave to enter this exciting new world of AI. A glorious phase in the history of humanity is about to begin.

Call it the golden dawn of a new humanity, or whatever. Names do not matter. What matters is that we participate and win!

As some one who is very familiar with Bitcoin, in fact for approaching a decade, and as some one who has seen all the FUD first hand, no it is not the same thing. The threats posed by AI are just as numerous as any other sufficiently advanced technology. You can build a house with a hammer or you can cave some one's head in with it. It doesn't make the hammer good or bad, but it is just as capable of doing either. It is the same reason we don't give loaded AK-47s to chimps to play with. The results are kind of irreversible in both cases. It is over their heads, as AI is over our heads, as it will be for some time.

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Quote from: Indamuck on October 13, 2018, 06:57:13 AM

As stated earlier in this thread, AI will be the only winner. The development of Artificial Intelligence is very concerning and it scares me. I think we should really stop advancing the technology because eventually it will be too intelligent to control. Once the cat is out of the bag it will be too late and robots will reign over humans. Some say its inevitable that this will happen but all we have to do is stop developing A.I.

It's all FUD. Exactly like the FUD surrounding Bitcoin.

We need to summon courage, and build up our nerves, be brave to enter this exciting new world of AI. A glorious phase in the history of humanity is about to begin.

Call it the golden dawn of a new humanity, or whatever. Names do not matter. What matters is that we participate and win!

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As stated earlier in this thread, AI will be the only winner. The development of Artificial Intelligence is very concerning and it scares me. I think we should really stop advancing the technology because eventually it will be too intelligent to control. Once the cat is out of the bag it will be too late and robots will reign over humans. Some say its inevitable that this will happen but all we have to do is stop developing A.I.

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I think that beyond a certain level of application complexity, it will boil down to the vigour of the societal environment in which that AI functions. A politically free society such as the USA would naturally fare better on this score, far ahead of the shackled masses that are the norm in China.

Therefore, the outcome of this competition is a no contest win for the USA by several laps and a mile, if not more.

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Quote from: ripthesystem on October 12, 2018, 10:42:26 AM

Quote from: TTshingeki on October 12, 2018, 12:47:58 AM

Are you forget Russian ? I think Russia also is country develop AI very strong but AI has many dangers if we couldn't control it. As Stephen Hawking says "A.I. could be 'worst event in the history of our civilization"

AFAIK, it seems like Russia is a little bit behind other big countries in terms of IT development. Their military is strong however, may be they'll refer not to create full-fledged AI but focus on AI for military purpose - and this is getting scary, to be honest.

Much like North Korea and China, Russia has some very advanced hackers and hacker intelligence agencies within the country, however they are well behind nations such as the US, Japan, and South Korea in research and development. This is why they place such a high value on espionage.

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Quote from: TTshingeki on October 12, 2018, 12:47:58 AM

Are you forget Russian ? I think Russia also is country develop AI very strong but AI has many dangers if we couldn't control it. As Stephen Hawking says "A.I. could be 'worst event in the history of our civilization"

AFAIK, it seems like Russia is a little bit behind other big countries in terms of IT development. Their military is strong however, may be they'll refer not to create full-fledged AI but focus on AI for military purpose - and this is getting scary, to be honest.

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Are you forget Russian ? I think Russia also is country develop AI very strong but AI has many dangers if we couldn't control it. As Stephen Hawking says "A.I. could be 'worst event in the history of our civilization"

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Quote from: Michael_Cox on October 11, 2018, 07:37:14 PM

Quote from: SnowAugustine on October 11, 2018, 11:15:26 AM

China is planning to overtake the US in terms of Artificial Intelligence. Some researchers AI would be like the internet of the future. It's going to be really necessary for life in the future and China wants to lead. How high do you think is the possibility of China being able to do so?

Overtake the US? I don't think so. Do you mean become the central country for AI? Yes. In this case, China will get ahead, especially since they got the biggest funding when it comes to creating AI. It's only a matter of time now before they create a fully functioning AI.

More importantly they don't give a shit about human or civil rights. AI will be deployed, manufactured, and in use there more, but the US still has the edge in development. That is why China is constantly trying to steal technology via espionage, hacking, or simply buying it out.

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China will be ahead because they will have all the resources to create an AI. The question is do they have the brains and the creative team to create a high quality AI? We'll see.

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Quote from: SnowAugustine on October 11, 2018, 11:15:26 AM

China is planning to overtake the US in terms of Artificial Intelligence. Some researchers AI would be like the internet of the future. It's going to be really necessary for life in the future and China wants to lead. How high do you think is the possibility of China being able to do so?

Overtake the US? I don't think so. Do you mean become the central country for AI? Yes. In this case, China will get ahead, especially since they got the biggest funding when it comes to creating AI. It's only a matter of time now before they create a fully functioning AI.

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