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My brother is fighting the V.A. right now for benifits. He got cancer from living on a base with contaminated drinking water in the early 80's. They told him he might not see a payment for 2 years, How the fuck is he supposed to pay for 2500$ in medicine a month and treatments? He told me before the scandel broke the V.A. is just waiting for people to Die off so they do not have to treat them and save money, I though he was just upset about the whole thing. Guess he was right
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Just one soldier released in exchange for 5 hardcore terrorists. These terrorists in turn will kill many more American soldiers. Bergdahl wasn't even a high ranking officer to begin with.

That is a really jackass thing to say, what good is a desk jokey? How many high ranking officers do you see pulling the trigger? NOT A DAMN ONE OF THEM. Save all the pencil pushing officers and throw the people who actually fight to the wayside....

While I do not agree how this was handled that comment was beyond stupid...

The real reason obama did this was to say "I did everything I could to leave no US troops behind". Do not forget we are might be 100% out of afgan by the end of the year, and to leave a captured soldier would be just another smudge on the war.

I am not a conspiracy person but the move seems so stupid that it makes me wonder if there is something else going on.

Well I am not sure you are in the US or not, but our Veterans health care service recently had a big scandal where patients may have died waiting for care.  Whether this is Obama's fault or not is debatable.  The VA has had issues for years long before Obama assumed the office.  However, Obama did implement policy changes that may have exacerbated the situation.  Some suspect this swap may have been timed to help bury that news.  If true, it certainly seems to have worked. 

I am in the US the the son of a Vietnam veteran. This is another scandal in a string of disgusting scandals that all seem to have cost people their lives. Obama is by far the worst president in this nation's history.
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The timing while intentional this exchange was a LONG time in the making. Like years we have been at the table with the taliban for around 2 years now.
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Some suspect this swap may have been timed to help bury that news.  If true, it certainly seems to have worked. 

American politicians are experts in diverting media attention away from their wrongdoings. I can give you dozens of examples for that. I am not much familiar with the veteran healthcare scandal... but seems like a viable explanation for me.
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So is this shaping up to be Homeland, just real?
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Just one soldier released in exchange for 5 hardcore terrorists. These terrorists in turn will kill many more American soldiers. Bergdahl wasn't even a high ranking officer to begin with.

That is a really jackass thing to say, what good is a desk jokey? How many high ranking officers do you see pulling the trigger? NOT A DAMN ONE OF THEM. Save all the pencil pushing officers and throw the people who actually fight to the wayside....

While I do not agree how this was handled that comment was beyond stupid...

The real reason obama did this was to say "I did everything I could to leave no US troops behind". Do not forget we are might be 100% out of afgan by the end of the year, and to leave a captured soldier would be just another smudge on the war.

I am not a conspiracy person but the move seems so stupid that it makes me wonder if there is something else going on.

Well I am not sure you are in the US or not, but our Veterans health care service recently had a big scandal where patients may have died waiting for care.  Whether this is Obama's fault or not is debatable.  The VA has had issues for years long before Obama assumed the office.  However, Obama did implement policy changes that may have exacerbated the situation.  Some suspect this swap may have been timed to help bury that news.  If true, it certainly seems to have worked. 
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Just one soldier released in exchange for 5 hardcore terrorists. These terrorists in turn will kill many more American soldiers. Bergdahl wasn't even a high ranking officer to begin with.

That is a really jackass thing to say, what good is a desk jokey? How many high ranking officers do you see pulling the trigger? NOT A DAMN ONE OF THEM. Save all the pencil pushing officers and throw the people who actually fight to the wayside....

While I do not agree how this was handled that comment was beyond stupid...

The real reason obama did this was to say "I did everything I could to leave no US troops behind". Do not forget we are might be 100% out of afgan by the end of the year, and to leave a captured soldier would be just another smudge on the war.

I am not a conspiracy person but the move seems so stupid that it makes me wonder if there is something else going on.
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Just one soldier released in exchange for 5 hardcore terrorists. These terrorists in turn will kill many more American soldiers. Bergdahl wasn't even a high ranking officer to begin with.

That is a really jackass thing to say, what good is a desk jokey? How many high ranking officers do you see pulling the trigger? NOT A DAMN ONE OF THEM. Save all the pencil pushing officers and throw the people who actually fight to the wayside....

While I do not agree how this was handled that comment was beyond stupid...

The real reason obama did this was to say "I did everything I could to leave no US troops behind". Do not forget we are might be 100% out of afgan by the end of the year, and to leave a captured soldier would be just another smudge on the war.
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Kia ora!
That sums up Foxnews's views to the tee.
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We released 5 of the worst terrorists we had at Gitmo, and we brought home a domestic terrorist. Does that about sum it up?
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Wonder if you would say the same if he was part of your family.
It got so easy to comment if somebody needs to be saved or killed when you're sitting comfy in your chair with a beer in your hand and typing on a forum.

In military, there is no room for personal emotions. If I was given a choice between 10 dead soldiers and one dead soldier, I'd definitely select the latter option. Giving in to blackmail starts a bad precedent.
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Just one soldier released in exchange for 5 hardcore terrorists. These terrorists in turn will kill many more American soldiers. Bergdahl wasn't even a high ranking officer to begin with.

Just one soldier released in exchange for 5 hardcore terrorists. These terrorists in turn will kill many more American soldiers. Bergdahl wasn't even a high ranking officer to begin with.

Yeah this was a really stupid decision. It also signals to them that our government will trade prisoners with them which makes kidnappings and hostage taking much more likely.

We can keep our soldiers safe by keeping them at home instead of in so many countries. We could also save a ton of money that way.

Wonder if you would say the same if he was part of your family.
It got so easy to comment if somebody needs to be saved or killed when you're sitting comfy in your chair with a beer in your hand and typing on a forum.



The point is that when you do this sort of thing you encourage more of it. This was not a simple prisoner exchange of legitimate soldiers. These were hard core terrorists that have and will now continue to kill people. What will you say to the family of the next person that is kidnapped by these bastards and they start demanding we release Khalid Sheik Mohammed?
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Just one soldier released in exchange for 5 hardcore terrorists. These terrorists in turn will kill many more American soldiers. Bergdahl wasn't even a high ranking officer to begin with.

His rank isn't important there, the point Obama is trying to make is that he was a POW. And indeed, he was. So were the 5 Gitmo detainees. It was a POW exchange, nothing untoward about it.

Also, the Army is taking the stance that he is innocent until proven guilty with regard to the allegations that he went AWOL/deserted his post.

So until he's proven guilty, it's like you said: He's a POW.
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Just one soldier released in exchange for 5 hardcore terrorists.

How do you know they are "hardcore terrorists" ?
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Just one soldier released in exchange for 5 hardcore terrorists. These terrorists in turn will kill many more American soldiers. Bergdahl wasn't even a high ranking officer to begin with.

His rank isn't important there, the point Obama is trying to make is that he was a POW. And indeed, he was. So were the 5 Gitmo detainees. It was a POW exchange, nothing untoward about it.
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Since when do we negotiate with terrorists? -_-

Daily...

Remember when Special Envoy Rumsfeld was 'negotiating' with Saddam Hussein? They are not called terrorists when their objectives match those of US foreign policy/war machine. They get called activists, or freedom fighters. Its an Orwellian word-smith game that has been played in every war and in dozens of US backed overthrows by terrorists around the world.

The US has a history of prisoner swaps with their enemies. Thats all this is.

I don't think the American government considers the Taliban a terrorist organization.

A deposed government at this point, but not a terrorist organization.

It's semantics I guess.
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Just one soldier released in exchange for 5 hardcore terrorists. These terrorists in turn will kill many more American soldiers. Bergdahl wasn't even a high ranking officer to begin with.

Just one soldier released in exchange for 5 hardcore terrorists. These terrorists in turn will kill many more American soldiers. Bergdahl wasn't even a high ranking officer to begin with.

Yeah this was a really stupid decision. It also signals to them that our government will trade prisoners with them which makes kidnappings and hostage taking much more likely.

We can keep our soldiers safe by keeping them at home instead of in so many countries. We could also save a ton of money that way.

Wonder if you would say the same if he was part of your family.
It got so easy to comment if somebody needs to be saved or killed when you're sitting comfy in your chair with a beer in your hand and typing on a forum.

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Kia ora!
Since when do we negotiate with terrorists? -_-

Daily...

Remember when Special Envoy Rumsfeld was 'negotiating' with Saddam Hussein? They are not called terrorists when their objectives match those of US foreign policy/war machine. They get called activists, or freedom fighters. Its an Orwellian word-smith game that has been played in every war and in dozens of US backed overthrows by terrorists around the world.

The US has a history of prisoner swaps with their enemies. Thats all this is.
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wow, for once i might agree with what republicans on fox are saying. well, at least i understand their point.
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