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Topic: US visa application now requires submission of social media information (Read 579 times)

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I figured what this is all about, they are going to do this. They already do.
America = China
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cGB8dCDf3c
legendary
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Seems like about 10 years ago that Great Britain criminalized having encrypted information and not providing the key to authorities when asked.  I have not heard much about it since, though.  Probably it was hopeless since if most people are like me, they've long ago forgotten how to decrypt stuff which I long ago encrypted and there probably are a ton of files on my various storage devices like this.

Probably the biggest reason to not bother people to much about encrypted blobs is because more people might learn the word 'steganography'  Not 'stenography' which the spell checkers usually suggest.  The word sends chills down the average totalitarian control freak's spine and turns their skin several shades lighter.

It's going to be a headache if you insist you can't remember the password for that old rar file in your laptop, so yeah, I think it's problematic.

As for steganography, I think those cat images I've seen in an article before counts. One of the last thing governments want citizens to know how to make.
Stegano...

Does that have anything to do with Sargent Stedenko?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9cIPFtmjIQ

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Seems like about 10 years ago that Great Britain criminalized having encrypted information and not providing the key to authorities when asked.  I have not heard much about it since, though.  Probably it was hopeless since if most people are like me, they've long ago forgotten how to decrypt stuff which I long ago encrypted and there probably are a ton of files on my various storage devices like this.

Probably the biggest reason to not bother people to much about encrypted blobs is because more people might learn the word 'steganography'  Not 'stenography' which the spell checkers usually suggest.  The word sends chills down the average totalitarian control freak's spine and turns their skin several shades lighter.

It's going to be a headache if you insist you can't remember the password for that old rar file in your laptop, so yeah, I think it's problematic.

As for steganography, I think those cat images I've seen in an article before counts. One of the last thing governments want citizens to know how to make.
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Well, in the past people had a street address, and they put it down when requested on forms.

Then they had phone numbers and put them down.

Then mobile phone numbers.

Then they had email addresses and put them down.

Then they had social media handles, and put them down.
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Is that even legal? Are there countries like that that forces you to open your phone and other electronics? Would be hilarious if I bring my 5 yr old laptop with me - I'd be holding up the line.  Grin

Seems like about 10 years ago that Great Britain criminalized having encrypted information and not providing the key to authorities when asked.  I have not heard much about it since, though.  Probably it was hopeless since if most people are like me, they've long ago forgotten how to decrypt stuff which I long ago encrypted and there probably are a ton of files on my various storage devices like this.

Probably the biggest reason to not bother people to much about encrypted blobs is because more people might learn the word 'steganography'  Not 'stenography' which the spell checkers usually suggest.  The word sends chills down the average totalitarian control freak's spine and turns their skin several shades lighter.


But yes, I doubt it'll make a difference. Criminals will simply find some other way to communicate without using social media or be more stealthy. Didn't they used to encrypt messages in images?

This is not about 'crime' or 'criminals'*.  It's about having the right attitude about the leadership peoples and classes.

If you are a dutiful slave who got a proper education in your school system and is content to watch mainstream media drivel exclusively, then come right in.  If you are a drug running sociopath that's no problem.  Plenty of sanctuary cities these days.

(*) Actually, now it is:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dT-RIos3fnE

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I don't mind them checking out social media accounts. Many people have a lot of public posts anyway, things everyone would have seen. Just give them the profile name and be done with it.

I don't like them also asking for email addresses and phone numbers though.

So what happens if you don't  use Facebook or Twitter because you consider them to be the juvenile haunts of kids and politicians?

Maybe they'd ask for your Reddit, which is worse since they'll find more of your opinions there, unless you show them a dummy account.

I mean, they're going to ask for all they want. Though the problem boils down to the fact that they're going to have to prove that you have accounts. I suppose they could seize your phone at the border, ask you to open it, and then look through it to see the apps you use -- then asking for your username on the apps makes sense, as you obviously use them.

This is a mixture of trying to balance privacy of foreigners, and protection of people at home. Though I doubt this will provide much protection tbh.



Is that even legal? Are there countries like that that forces you to open your phone and other electronics? Would be hilarious if I bring my 5 yr old laptop with me - I'd be holding up the line.  Grin

But yes, I doubt it'll make a difference. Criminals will simply find some other way to communicate without using social media or be more stealthy. Didn't they used to encrypt messages in images?
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I wonder if it will apply to 'dual nationals'?


No, because when you have 2 passports, it's forbidden to use the non American one to enter the US. Also immigration services don't know you have another citizenship.

So the U.S. does not even keep track of who in our country holds citizenship in a foreign country as well?

I mean I would not be surprised if this were the case because certain people are of a highly protected status here and it is most convenient for the authorities to not know anything about them and their activities.  That would help TSA and other folks avoid the need to make career ending decisions while trying to do their job in protecting the U.S. interests.

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Your country may be your worst enemy

I wonder if it will apply to 'dual nationals'?


No, because when you have 2 passports, it's forbidden to use the non American one to enter the US. Also immigration services don't know you have another citizenship.
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I wonder if it will apply to 'dual nationals'?

If 'we' are going to have such a law it really should apply to people who can or do hold citizenship in another nation because clearly some people who have loyalties to other countries are in a position to do grievous harm to the U.S., and have relatively often done just that.

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Great! Now 99% people won't be able to enter US as most people just use social media as a troll media and talk nonsense online.

And this would now increase account sales too where people will buy 5 year old accounts and change the details then. Cheesy
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https://twitter.com/i/moments/1134976495686901760
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These are weird rules and don’t make any sense as to why they need our social media accounts, I wonder if this is an attempt to collect our data and manipulate it in someway. When I saw this news breakout someone said now they require our passwords too, but that turned out fake though I feel going ahead they may require it too. One interesting question that crossed my mind is what if we keep our social media posts private, will they reject the application because they cannnot access the accounts any idea about this?

They already collect your data, do you remember when you accepted those terms of privacy? Yeah, most of those literally say they can do whatever they want with your data, I pretty much doubt USA is doing it because they want to control or do anything with your social media, they already can mate, they are already doing it, not only them, most countries and most companies that have access to your data.

When you have nothing to hide, it does not matter, life is a blockchain.
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https://twitter.com/i/moments/1134976495686901760

Almost all foreign visitors to the United States are now required to provide their social media account details, email addresses and phone numbers from the past five years. A new question asking for social media information appeared on the online visa application on Friday. Photo via @thehill

... wtf?



These are weird rules and don’t make any sense as to why they need our social media accounts, I wonder if this is an attempt to collect our data and manipulate it in someway. When I saw this news breakout someone said now they require our passwords too, but that turned out fake though I feel going ahead they may require it too. One interesting question that crossed my mind is what if we keep our social media posts private, will they reject the application because they cannnot access the accounts any idea about this?

They already collect your data, do you remember when you accepted those terms of privacy? Yeah, most of those literally say they can do whatever they want with your data, I pretty much doubt USA is doing it because they want to control or do anything with your social media, they already can mate, they are already doing it, not only them, most countries and most companies that have access to your data.
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https://twitter.com/i/moments/1134976495686901760

Almost all foreign visitors to the United States are now required to provide their social media account details, email addresses and phone numbers from the past five years. A new question asking for social media information appeared on the online visa application on Friday. Photo via @thehill

... wtf?



These are weird rules and don’t make any sense as to why they need our social media accounts, I wonder if this is an attempt to collect our data and manipulate it in someway. When I saw this news breakout someone said now they require our passwords too, but that turned out fake though I feel going ahead they may require it too. One interesting question that crossed my mind is what if we keep our social media posts private, will they reject the application because they cannnot access the accounts any idea about this?
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Just curious to know is there any punishment for the people who found giving fake details.

Even Facebook admits that many people registered with fake details so how it can be considered as document for getting visa.
Nothing happens, they will look it as a deceptive behavior and just reject your visa and might black list you in your future application, other than that there is nothing to worry. Tongue

Almost all foreign visitors to the United States are now required to provide their social media account details, email addresses and phone numbers from the past five years. A new question asking for social media information appeared on the online visa application on Friday. Photo via @thehill
 
What happens if you are not using any social media platform and i use an encrypted mail ID, will they ask to provide the password too  Cheesy If it is serious thing how someone could check the phone details of individuals of other countries if there is no legal case against them, i do not think they will have any back end access as it will be a serious internal security problem. Roll Eyes
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Just curious to know is there any punishment for the people who found giving fake details.

"serious immigration consequences" which probably means lifetime ban from US entry. 

Same thing when they search the last five years of social media.  If you've ever posted you smoked a joint, you also get a lifetime ban.

Yep, obviously i doubt they would do anything else for posting something on your social media, a lifetime ban at most, its not like they are going to send the FBI to get you
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"serious immigration consequences" which probably means lifetime ban from US entry.  

Same thing when they search the last five years of social media.  If you've ever posted you smoked a joint, you also get a lifetime ban....

Someone talked about bombing the US, they get banned.

I don't see any problem with that.



That is not my quote, also you will care when you are enslaved by gun point with drones from people in underground bunkers.
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"serious immigration consequences" which probably means lifetime ban from US entry.  

Same thing when they search the last five years of social media.  If you've ever posted you smoked a joint, you also get a lifetime ban....

Someone talked about bombing the US, they get banned.

I don't see any problem with that.

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I guess you need to understand the difference between immigration and citizenship.   :/

Immigrate to America


Get a American Citizenship

Vod
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Licking my boob since 1970
I guess you need to understand the difference between immigration and citizenship.   :/
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Just curious to know is there any punishment for the people who found giving fake details.

"serious immigration consequences" which probably means lifetime ban from US entry.  

Same thing when they search the last five years of social media.  If you've ever posted you smoked a joint, you also get a lifetime ban.

I smoked a joint!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUsv4Lb7EQs I Smoke Two Joints

Patrick Stewart (1) LOL no wonder he was a good commander.
https://www.ranker.com/list/celebrities-who-smoke-weed/celebrity-lists
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