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Quote from: SerenaL on September 23, 2015, 11:46:00 PM

Quote from: ridery99 on June 07, 2015, 11:52:00 AM

I heard from rt that USA is going to attack RUSSIA soon. How USA will attack and where invasion will start? I'd like to know Huh

I'm still waiting for that attack. zzzz

Well I think you are going to have to keep waiting indefinitely, at least that isn't a bad thing.

U.S. is unlikely to do anything of much consequence in the near future. The president is a lame duck by now so things should be relatively quiet until 2017. There´ll be the same saber rattling and rhetoric but it should just muddle through.

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Quote from: ridery99 on June 07, 2015, 11:52:00 AM

I heard from rt that USA is going to attack RUSSIA soon. How USA will attack and where invasion will start? I'd like to know Huh

I'm still waiting for that attack. zzzz

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Quote from: Gronthaing on September 23, 2015, 09:38:41 PM

Quote from: galdur on September 23, 2015, 09:11:03 PM

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Quote from: galdur on September 23, 2015, 02:44:30 AM

The Russians anticipate the obvious: The U.S. will eventually sic this ISIS terrorist vermin on them. It has already been probing. That´s why they want to wipe it out at the source there in the middle east. Which should be relatively easy, this terrorist force has no defenses against air attacks. And after that it´s just mopping up.

Where have we heard that before? Doesn't matter where isis came from, the truth is they have some support from the population. Bombing them can easily increase that support when the bombs start killing the wrong people. And that always happens in massive campaigns. Didn't Assad say something like that of the western attacks against isis? That it was just increasing their support? He should have been happy if it was that simple.

Quote from: galdur on September 23, 2015, 02:44:30 AM

Even the U.S. media is complaining about the half-hearted and useless U.S. operations there.

The mostly right wing american media? That is to be expected from them. It's what they are there for.

Doesn´t matter where ISIS came from? You can´t be serious. What if it´s created by US intelligence? The head of ISIS was US prisoner in Iraq for years, that on the historical record.

If it´s created by US officials would that mean war crimes trials or doesn´t it matter?

That wasn't the point of my post. Doesn't matter where they came from because americans didn't invent everyone that currently supports isis in those countries. I was criticizing what you proposed was the solution to the problem because it leads to more support for isis from all those that live through the bombing campaigns and occupation. And then to more war. And us officials shouldn't be on trial only for creating isis. They should be on trial for attacking Iraq and the hundreds of thousands they killed in the first place.

It´s true that this whole mess is the result of that invasion and the decade long occupation. But where is the evidence that this ISIS has any meaningful support from the population there? Don´t tell me that it comes from U.S. intelligence (which feed the media spin). Obviously the creators aren´t very interested in having their creature destroyed. So this spin sounds like it comes from them.

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Quote from: galdur on September 23, 2015, 09:11:03 PM

Quote from: Gronthaing on September 23, 2015, 09:01:12 PM

Quote from: galdur on September 23, 2015, 02:44:30 AM

The Russians anticipate the obvious: The U.S. will eventually sic this ISIS terrorist vermin on them. It has already been probing. That´s why they want to wipe it out at the source there in the middle east. Which should be relatively easy, this terrorist force has no defenses against air attacks. And after that it´s just mopping up.

Where have we heard that before? Doesn't matter where isis came from, the truth is they have some support from the population. Bombing them can easily increase that support when the bombs start killing the wrong people. And that always happens in massive campaigns. Didn't Assad say something like that of the western attacks against isis? That it was just increasing their support? He should have been happy if it was that simple.

Quote from: galdur on September 23, 2015, 02:44:30 AM

Even the U.S. media is complaining about the half-hearted and useless U.S. operations there.

The mostly right wing american media? That is to be expected from them. It's what they are there for.

Doesn´t matter where ISIS came from? You can´t be serious. What if it´s created by US intelligence? The head of ISIS was US prisoner in Iraq for years, that on the historical record.

If it´s created by US officials would that mean war crimes trials or doesn´t it matter?

That wasn't the point of my post. Doesn't matter where they came from because americans didn't invent everyone that currently supports isis in those countries. I was criticizing what you proposed was the solution to the problem because it leads to more support for isis from all those that live through the bombing campaigns and occupation. And then to more war. And us officials shouldn't be on trial only for creating isis. They should be on trial for attacking Iraq and the hundreds of thousands they killed in the first place.

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Quote from: Gronthaing on September 23, 2015, 09:01:12 PM

Quote from: galdur on September 23, 2015, 02:44:30 AM

The Russians anticipate the obvious: The U.S. will eventually sic this ISIS terrorist vermin on them. It has already been probing. That´s why they want to wipe it out at the source there in the middle east. Which should be relatively easy, this terrorist force has no defenses against air attacks. And after that it´s just mopping up.

Where have we heard that before? Doesn't matter where isis came from, the truth is they have some support from the population. Bombing them can easily increase that support when the bombs start killing the wrong people. And that always happens in massive campaigns. Didn't Assad say something like that of the western attacks against isis? That it was just increasing their support? He should have been happy if it was that simple.

Quote from: galdur on September 23, 2015, 02:44:30 AM

Even the U.S. media is complaining about the half-hearted and useless U.S. operations there.

The mostly right wing american media? That is to be expected from them. It's what they are there for.

Doesn´t matter where ISIS came from? You can´t be serious. What if it´s created by US intelligence? The head of ISIS was US prisoner in Iraq for years, that on the historical record.

If it´s created by US officials would that mean war crimes trials or doesn´t it matter?

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Quote from: galdur on September 23, 2015, 02:44:30 AM

The Russians anticipate the obvious: The U.S. will eventually sic this ISIS terrorist vermin on them. It has already been probing. That´s why they want to wipe it out at the source there in the middle east. Which should be relatively easy, this terrorist force has no defenses against air attacks. And after that it´s just mopping up.

Where have we heard that before? Doesn't matter where isis came from, the truth is they have some support from the population. Bombing them can easily increase that support when the bombs start killing the wrong people. And that always happens in massive campaigns. Didn't Assad say something like that of the western attacks against isis? That it was just increasing their support? He should have been happy if it was that simple.

Quote from: galdur on September 23, 2015, 02:44:30 AM

Even the U.S. media is complaining about the half-hearted and useless U.S. operations there.

The mostly right wing american media? That is to be expected from them. It's what they are there for.

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The Russians anticipate the obvious: The U.S. will eventually sic this ISIS terrorist vermin on them. It has already been probing. That´s why they want to wipe it out at the source there in the middle east. Which should be relatively easy, this terrorist force has no defenses against air attacks. And after that it´s just mopping up. Even the U.S. media is complaining about the half-hearted and useless U.S. operations there. Everybody sees through this shit if they have half a brain and enough time to figure out how to use it.

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Quote from: mindrust on September 23, 2015, 02:05:00 AM

Why would USA attack Russia instead of cutting their moneymaking lines?

Big countries like USA and Russia won't fight each other in the future, because it is stupid. That would be fun watch tho. Instead of fighting directly they raise terrorist organisations to fight for them.

Everybody knows Isis created by USA out of nothing.

Didn´t the Americans brainwash this Baghdadi guy, king of ISIS or whatever, in a prison in Iraq between 2005-9? He was their prisoner that´s documented.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/256164952/Baghdadi-Detainee-File

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Why would USA attack Russia instead of cutting their moneymaking lines?

Big countries like USA and Russia won't fight each other in the future, because it is stupid. That would be fun watch tho. Instead of fighting directly they raise terrorist organisations to fight for them.

Everybody knows Isis created by USA out of nothing.

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Quote from: galdur on September 22, 2015, 12:18:59 PM

But that´s North Korea. Only a dictatorship could sell its populace such ludicrously transparent tissue of lies as that used as pretenses for the Mongolian war. That´s the beauty of democracy. It´s just inconceivable that an enlightened electorate could vote into power psychopaths, pathological serial-liars and homicidal maniacs.

Well I see your point. I disagree but thats' just my opinion. Now, I'm not going to start a long political discussion here. Great American present-day writer Joss Whedon said: “The news isn't there to tell you what happened. It's there to tell you what it wants you to hear or what it thinks you want to hear.” We all should be aware of that, I think.

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Sanction and economic attacked already started a year ago.

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Quote from: Blawpaw on September 22, 2015, 01:26:34 PM

Quote from: ridery99 on June 07, 2015, 11:52:00 AM

I heard from rt that USA is going to attack RUSSIA soon. How USA will attack and where invasion will start? I'd like to know Huh

That wouldn't be good at all...
I seriously hope that never happens! If a USA attack on Russia happened it would be the end of the world.

You just have to believe that it's not gonna happen

Like people who believe in a certain alt coin

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Quote from: ridery99 on June 07, 2015, 11:52:00 AM

I heard from rt that USA is going to attack RUSSIA soon. How USA will attack and where invasion will start? I'd like to know Huh

That wouldn't be good at all...
I seriously hope that never happens! If a USA attack on Russia happened it would be the end of the world.

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But that´s North Korea. Only a dictatorship could sell its populace such ludicrously transparent tissue of lies as that used as pretenses for the Mongolian war. That´s the beauty of democracy. It´s just inconceivable that an enlightened electorate could vote into power psychopaths, pathological serial-liars and homicidal maniacs.

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Quote from: Betwrong on September 22, 2015, 11:18:07 AM

Quote from: galdur on September 22, 2015, 11:02:34 AM

Quote from: iCan on September 22, 2015, 10:50:43 AM

Quote from: galdur on September 22, 2015, 10:23:25 AM

Quote from: bryant.coleman on September 22, 2015, 09:59:34 AM

Quote from: iCan on September 22, 2015, 08:26:41 AM

And also ban all oil and gas trade.

Best of luck with that. Grin

Do you even know that the United States and the European Union are the biggest importers of crude oil? Their economies will break down within days, if the petroleum and natural gas imports from Russia are stopped. Anyway, leave it. The average IQ level of the pro-NATO guys here seems to be somewhere between 50 and 60.

Well, ignorance is not knowing, and stupidity is the inability to know or comprehend.

So, it´s probably not politically correct to call that guy stupid Grin

IMHO everyone have right to have an opinion.

Absolutely. And an opinion may be supported by facts and become an argument. But opinions alone are like ######## everybody has them.

But those facts may be fabricated or spun deceptively, you know. North Korean propaganda is also based on "facts" as millions of North Koreans believe.

Yes and the most horrible example of that in recent times is the Mongolian war. Those fabricated facts really can kill millions. Let me go over that briefly.

According to the North Koreans Mongolian strongman Balykin Sabalgiu had weapons of mass destruction and that was an irrefutable fact. To rid him of these non-existent weapons NK invaded in 2003. More than a decade later millions have been killed and maimed and millions more displaced. The NK military retreated from the country a couple years ago, tail between legs, leaving behind a total basket case with escalating violence for years to come.

Here´s NK dictator Gling Glong Glue joking about those weapons:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdDp_jlgC9M

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Quote from: Mrzinzin on September 22, 2015, 11:20:04 AM

Quote from: bryant.coleman on September 22, 2015, 09:59:34 AM

Quote from: iCan on September 22, 2015, 08:26:41 AM

And also ban all oil and gas trade.

Best of luck with that. Grin

Do you even know that the United States and the European Union are the biggest importers of crude oil? Their economies will break down within days, if the petroleum and natural gas imports from Russia are stopped. Anyway, leave it. The average IQ level of the pro-NATO guys here seems to be somewhere between 50 and 60.

you have better chance to ban food and water trading, at least people can create woodstuff and dig water pits, but normal people can't dig oil pits

water and crops to da moon

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on September 22, 2015, 09:59:34 AM

Quote from: iCan on September 22, 2015, 08:26:41 AM

And also ban all oil and gas trade.

Best of luck with that. Grin

Do you even know that the United States and the European Union are the biggest importers of crude oil? Their economies will break down within days, if the petroleum and natural gas imports from Russia are stopped. Anyway, leave it. The average IQ level of the pro-NATO guys here seems to be somewhere between 50 and 60.

you have better chance to ban food and water trading, at least people can create woodstuff and dig water pits, but normal people can't dig oil pits

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Quote from: galdur on September 22, 2015, 11:02:34 AM

Quote from: iCan on September 22, 2015, 10:50:43 AM

Quote from: galdur on September 22, 2015, 10:23:25 AM

Quote from: bryant.coleman on September 22, 2015, 09:59:34 AM

Quote from: iCan on September 22, 2015, 08:26:41 AM

And also ban all oil and gas trade.

Best of luck with that. Grin

Do you even know that the United States and the European Union are the biggest importers of crude oil? Their economies will break down within days, if the petroleum and natural gas imports from Russia are stopped. Anyway, leave it. The average IQ level of the pro-NATO guys here seems to be somewhere between 50 and 60.

Well, ignorance is not knowing, and stupidity is the inability to know or comprehend.

So, it´s probably not politically correct to call that guy stupid Grin

IMHO everyone have right to have an opinion.

Absolutely. And an opinion may be supported by facts and become an argument. But opinions alone are like ######## everybody has them.

But those facts may be fabricated or spun deceptively, you know. North Korean propaganda is also based on "facts" as millions of North Koreans believe.

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Quote from: iCan on September 22, 2015, 10:50:43 AM

Quote from: galdur on September 22, 2015, 10:23:25 AM

Quote from: bryant.coleman on September 22, 2015, 09:59:34 AM

Quote from: iCan on September 22, 2015, 08:26:41 AM

And also ban all oil and gas trade.

Best of luck with that. Grin

Do you even know that the United States and the European Union are the biggest importers of crude oil? Their economies will break down within days, if the petroleum and natural gas imports from Russia are stopped. Anyway, leave it. The average IQ level of the pro-NATO guys here seems to be somewhere between 50 and 60.

Well, ignorance is not knowing, and stupidity is the inability to know or comprehend.

So, it´s probably not politically correct to call that guy stupid Grin

IMHO everyone have right to have an opinion.

Absolutely. And an opinion may be supported by facts and become an argument. But opinions alone are like ######## everybody has them.

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Quote from: galdur on September 22, 2015, 10:23:25 AM

Quote from: bryant.coleman on September 22, 2015, 09:59:34 AM

Quote from: iCan on September 22, 2015, 08:26:41 AM

And also ban all oil and gas trade.

Best of luck with that. Grin

Do you even know that the United States and the European Union are the biggest importers of crude oil? Their economies will break down within days, if the petroleum and natural gas imports from Russia are stopped. Anyway, leave it. The average IQ level of the pro-NATO guys here seems to be somewhere between 50 and 60.

Well, ignorance is not knowing, and stupidity is the inability to know or comprehend.

So, it´s probably not politically correct to call that guy stupid Grin

IMHO everyone have right to have an opinion.

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