Topic: User Lutpin abusing DT power (Read 1645 times)
Selling your localbitcoin account is wrong. My account there has positive feedback. If I sold it here I would deserve to be flagged. I do agree though that some people on DT would let people starve by loosely handing out negative trust.
Actually I agree with OP and badly criticize Lutpin here, just because you are on DT you have to be more cautious, a fun or say view of yours should not affect others. You are not the one who will decide whats legal to sell and whats not, either get a clear rule for that or dont tag users blindly. Moreover for some reason and you will see it later proved, lutpin is someone whom we very well all know, maybe say QS, etc .. time will tell.
Thats true, people can ignore my feedback by putting ~whywefight in their trust list 
Well, you're not in the DT2 list atm so most people won't have you in their trust lists anyways.
I know but ppl still complaining
If a user ignores the DT-WEIGHT and does as he likes then he obviously doesn't deserves it and on the other hand if a user knowingly does this then he is abusing it and should be removed.
So because someone's feedback makes a difference to the majority of users, they shouldn't leave the feedbacks that they did previously (which more than likely got them onto the DT list in the first place)? That logic seems a bit strange to me.Regardless, the main difference (for me) between selling a BitcoinTalk account and a LocalBitcoins account is the risk that comes with selling one and not the other. Whilst BitcoinTalk doesn't condone selling accounts, they wouldn't terminate the account for it being sold. On the other hand, selling a LocalBitcoins account is against the ToS of the site and can result in the account being terminated and the user being left without an account or the Bitcoin they paid for it.
Unless this risk is explicitly presented during the sale (which in this case it is not), I consider a negative trust to be worthy as the OP is selling a product with an unmentioned risk, which could result in them scamming (intentional or not).
PS. You also do not need to create two threads for this. By posting repeatedly with insults simply makes you look like a child who is throwing a tantrum because they cannot get their own way.
Thats true, people can ignore my feedback by putting ~whywefight in their trust list
Well, you're not in the DT2 list atm so most people won't have you in their trust lists anyways.
[AUCTION] Localbitcoins Account with 500+ Trades
Selling old reddit accounts
I see someone Logic is flawed ?
Selling old reddit accounts
I see someone Logic is flawed ?
Personaly
Thats true, people can ignore my feedback by putting ~whywefight in their trust list
I got a negative rating from him, because I'm selling my localbitcoin account.
This user is a hypocrite. What is the difference between selling bitcointalk account and lbc account?
Localbitcoin is more secure because it has a built in escrow service while bitcointalk has not. And he allow bitcointalk account selling.
Unfortunately I am going to have to make Lutpin go 0-2 on this one and agree with the OP. This user is a hypocrite. What is the difference between selling bitcointalk account and lbc account?
Localbitcoin is more secure because it has a built in escrow service while bitcointalk has not. And he allow bitcointalk account selling.
Escrow should not be released on LBC until funds are secured/received by the bitcoin seller, and funds should be in escrow prior to the bitcoin buyer sending any kind of fiat. LBC warns it's users against working outside of escrow. From what I can tell, the vast majority of LBC scams involve users not properly using the escrow system (or due to successful phishing attempts).
Established LBC accounts do however potentially allow for people to get their ads more premonitory displayed, potentially allowing more people to trade with an established account, potentially allowing for more favorable rates (and more profits) for the owner of an established LBC account.
There is no need to buy an "established" account. LBC has a good escrow system, even as a newbie it isnt a real problem to sell hundreds of BTC. Also LBC will ban the acc (in most of the cases afaik) if they get a hint that the acc was sold.
You don't allow selling secure accounts, while you allow selling of high risk bitcointalk accounts. What is your point there? Are you an hyprocrite and alt of lutpin?
I must sat, this is a pretty solid point bibtcointalk accounts are often used to scam in the same way LBC accounts are used to scam
[AUCTION] Localbitcoins Account with 500+ Trades
Selling old reddit accounts
I see someone Logic is flawed ?
Selling old reddit accounts
I see someone Logic is flawed ?
Personaly
Good Word.I respect but that doesn't means I should abide.IMO lutpin isnt untrustworthy at all.
Ye.I agree.
If a btct account with trust for previous deals get sold here, we -ve him because we cant be sure the new owner is trustworthy and he does not deserve to have a trusted account. Simply because he didnt do the trades.
People on here try to get other people in dealing off the site without escrows to scam em.
Buying an account for lbc that has trust might be used for the same stuff. I dont know if it happens, but again you are able to trade on lbc without having a history. Its easy and possible. Its total bs no one will deal with newbies over there.
Personaly i -ve those accounts because they are sold here i dont care if they are sold elsewhere.
People on here try to get other people in dealing off the site without escrows to scam em.
Buying an account for lbc that has trust might be used for the same stuff. I dont know if it happens, but again you are able to trade on lbc without having a history. Its easy and possible. Its total bs no one will deal with newbies over there.
Personaly i -ve those accounts because they are sold here i dont care if they are sold elsewhere.
I honestly hate to even post in this thread or on this subject since a new dt user may or may not take offense to my comments. I dont think the OP here has done any wrong. Lutpin may not trust him but that doesnt mean tag him right off. If you keep going at the pace youre going all accounts will be red in a month.
Blazed added whom a few users voted for and IMO lutpin isnt untrustworthy at all. Heutenamos youre correct though, those who are on the DT list or list of someone on the dt list do need to weigh their opinions a little more carefully. Im not stirring the pot or anything but Lutpin please consider your opinions a little more carefully and maybe neutral trust guys whom you feel are up to shady activity. Dont go ruining their accounts without strong proof of your opinion. Just my 2 cents
I knew this from the beginning.IMHO blaming lutpin is WRONG because it's BLAZED's fault.
@OP People are free to have their own opinions,change the subject to "Blazed's trust lists consists undeserving users"
If a user ignores the DT-WEIGHT and does as he likes then he obviously doesn't deserves it and on the other hand if a user knowingly does this then he is abusing it and should be removed.I think you lie in the first case as he is solely going by judgments and no one should forced to change their opinions.
@OP People are free to have their own opinions,change the subject to "Blazed's trust lists consists undeserving users"
If a user ignores the DT-WEIGHT and does as he likes then he obviously doesn't deserves it and on the other hand if a user knowingly does this then he is abusing it and should be removed.I think you lie in the first case as he is solely going by judgments and no one should forced to change their opinions.
I got a negative rating from him, because I'm selling my localbitcoin account.
This user is a hypocrite. What is the difference between selling bitcointalk account and lbc account?
Localbitcoin is more secure because it has a built in escrow service while bitcointalk has not. And he allow bitcointalk account selling.
Unfortunately I am going to have to make Lutpin go 0-2 on this one and agree with the OP. This user is a hypocrite. What is the difference between selling bitcointalk account and lbc account?
Localbitcoin is more secure because it has a built in escrow service while bitcointalk has not. And he allow bitcointalk account selling.
Escrow should not be released on LBC until funds are secured/received by the bitcoin seller, and funds should be in escrow prior to the bitcoin buyer sending any kind of fiat. LBC warns it's users against working outside of escrow. From what I can tell, the vast majority of LBC scams involve users not properly using the escrow system (or due to successful phishing attempts).
Established LBC accounts do however potentially allow for people to get their ads more premonitory displayed, potentially allowing more people to trade with an established account, potentially allowing for more favorable rates (and more profits) for the owner of an established LBC account.
There is no need to buy an "established" account. LBC has a good escrow system, even as a newbie it isnt a real problem to sell hundreds of BTC. Also LBC will ban the acc (in most of the cases afaik) if they get a hint that the acc was sold.
As I said previously, an established LBC account may allow you to get better rates on LBC
they try to get people to deal off site, because those accs are so trusted
Clearly you have no logic there.Then Why you are ok with bitcointalk accounts which is more risky than locabitcoin? Which has completely no escrow at all. Even you use escrow in bitcointalk there is a chance the escrow is the one who will scam you.
i dont need any logic to have my opinion. if you stick around here you might understand why accs seling at all is bad but better to have it here than somewhere else
Clearly you are doing things without thinking at all.
tells me the guy which is new here and have never be involved in BTCT account sales, giving loans or hunting down alts/scamers. i explained my pov to you, you dont need to agree on it
I got a negative rating from him, because I'm selling my localbitcoin account.
This user is a hypocrite. What is the difference between selling bitcointalk account and lbc account?
Localbitcoin is more secure because it has a built in escrow service while bitcointalk has not. And he allow bitcointalk account selling.
Unfortunately I am going to have to make Lutpin go 0-2 on this one and agree with the OP. This user is a hypocrite. What is the difference between selling bitcointalk account and lbc account?
Localbitcoin is more secure because it has a built in escrow service while bitcointalk has not. And he allow bitcointalk account selling.
Escrow should not be released on LBC until funds are secured/received by the bitcoin seller, and funds should be in escrow prior to the bitcoin buyer sending any kind of fiat. LBC warns it's users against working outside of escrow. From what I can tell, the vast majority of LBC scams involve users not properly using the escrow system (or due to successful phishing attempts).
Established LBC accounts do however potentially allow for people to get their ads more premonitory displayed, potentially allowing more people to trade with an established account, potentially allowing for more favorable rates (and more profits) for the owner of an established LBC account.
There is no need to buy an "established" account. LBC has a good escrow system, even as a newbie it isnt a real problem to sell hundreds of BTC. Also LBC will ban the acc (in most of the cases afaik) if they get a hint that the acc was sold.
As I said previously, an established LBC account may allow you to get better rates on LBC
they try to get people to deal off site, because those accs are so trusted
Clearly you have no logic there.Then Why you are ok with bitcointalk accounts which is more risky than locabitcoin? Which has completely no escrow at all. Even you use escrow in bitcointalk there is a chance the escrow is the one who will scam you.
i dont need any logic to have my opinion. if you stick around here you might understand why accs seling at all is bad but better to have it here than somewhere else
Clearly you are doing things without thinking at all.
I got a negative rating from him, because I'm selling my localbitcoin account.
This user is a hypocrite. What is the difference between selling bitcointalk account and lbc account?
Localbitcoin is more secure because it has a built in escrow service while bitcointalk has not. And he allow bitcointalk account selling.
Unfortunately I am going to have to make Lutpin go 0-2 on this one and agree with the OP. This user is a hypocrite. What is the difference between selling bitcointalk account and lbc account?
Localbitcoin is more secure because it has a built in escrow service while bitcointalk has not. And he allow bitcointalk account selling.
Escrow should not be released on LBC until funds are secured/received by the bitcoin seller, and funds should be in escrow prior to the bitcoin buyer sending any kind of fiat. LBC warns it's users against working outside of escrow. From what I can tell, the vast majority of LBC scams involve users not properly using the escrow system (or due to successful phishing attempts).
Established LBC accounts do however potentially allow for people to get their ads more premonitory displayed, potentially allowing more people to trade with an established account, potentially allowing for more favorable rates (and more profits) for the owner of an established LBC account.
There is no need to buy an "established" account. LBC has a good escrow system, even as a newbie it isnt a real problem to sell hundreds of BTC. Also LBC will ban the acc (in most of the cases afaik) if they get a hint that the acc was sold.
As I said previously, an established LBC account may allow you to get better rates on LBC
they try to get people to deal off site, because those accs are so trusted
Quote from: qs
LBC warns it's users against working outside of escrow. From what I can tell, the vast majority of LBC scams involve users not properly using the escrow system (or due to successful phishing attempts).
like we have ton of stickies and advices around here? well i see how well this works..
I got a negative rating from him, because I'm selling my localbitcoin account.
This user is a hypocrite. What is the difference between selling bitcointalk account and lbc account?
Localbitcoin is more secure because it has a built in escrow service while bitcointalk has not. And he allow bitcointalk account selling.
Unfortunately I am going to have to make Lutpin go 0-2 on this one and agree with the OP. This user is a hypocrite. What is the difference between selling bitcointalk account and lbc account?
Localbitcoin is more secure because it has a built in escrow service while bitcointalk has not. And he allow bitcointalk account selling.
Escrow should not be released on LBC until funds are secured/received by the bitcoin seller, and funds should be in escrow prior to the bitcoin buyer sending any kind of fiat. LBC warns it's users against working outside of escrow. From what I can tell, the vast majority of LBC scams involve users not properly using the escrow system (or due to successful phishing attempts).
Established LBC accounts do however potentially allow for people to get their ads more premonitory displayed, potentially allowing more people to trade with an established account, potentially allowing for more favorable rates (and more profits) for the owner of an established LBC account.
There is no need to buy an "established" account. LBC has a good escrow system, even as a newbie it isnt a real problem to sell hundreds of BTC. Also LBC will ban the acc (in most of the cases afaik) if they get a hint that the acc was sold.
As I said previously, an established LBC account may allow you to get better rates on LBC
they try to get people to deal off site, because those accs are so trusted
Clearly you have no logic there.Then Why you are ok with bitcointalk accounts which is more risky than locabitcoin? Which has completely no escrow at all. Even you use escrow in bitcointalk there is a chance the escrow is the one who will scam you.
i dont need any logic to have my opinion. if you stick around here you might understand why accs seling at all is bad but better to have it here than somewhere else
I got a negative rating from him, because I'm selling my localbitcoin account.
This user is a hypocrite. What is the difference between selling bitcointalk account and lbc account?
Localbitcoin is more secure because it has a built in escrow service while bitcointalk has not. And he allow bitcointalk account selling.
Unfortunately I am going to have to make Lutpin go 0-2 on this one and agree with the OP. This user is a hypocrite. What is the difference between selling bitcointalk account and lbc account?
Localbitcoin is more secure because it has a built in escrow service while bitcointalk has not. And he allow bitcointalk account selling.
Escrow should not be released on LBC until funds are secured/received by the bitcoin seller, and funds should be in escrow prior to the bitcoin buyer sending any kind of fiat. LBC warns it's users against working outside of escrow. From what I can tell, the vast majority of LBC scams involve users not properly using the escrow system (or due to successful phishing attempts).
Established LBC accounts do however potentially allow for people to get their ads more premonitory displayed, potentially allowing more people to trade with an established account, potentially allowing for more favorable rates (and more profits) for the owner of an established LBC account.
There is no need to buy an "established" account. LBC has a good escrow system, even as a newbie it isnt a real problem to sell hundreds of BTC. Also LBC will ban the acc (in most of the cases afaik) if they get a hint that the acc was sold.
As I said previously, an established LBC account may allow you to get better rates on LBC
they try to get people to deal off site, because those accs are so trusted
Clearly you have no logic there.Then Why you are ok with bitcointalk accounts which is more risky than locabitcoin? Which has completely no escrow at all. Even you use escrow in bitcointalk there is a chance the escrow is the one who will scam you.
I'm not buying lol, I'm selling. I saw some users buying multiple accounts but they don't negative feedback like user model.
I meant it in general what users do with lbc accounts.
LBC warns it's users against working outside of escrow. From what I can tell, the vast majority of LBC scams involve users not properly using the escrow system (or due to successful phishing attempts).
Yeap they do, but most of them get scammed because they say they will offer a better rate if they were to deal off-site (evading LBC's escrow fee). I've had this happened to me one too many times now and every-time i insist on using LBC's escrow they go cold.
Unfortunately I am going to have to make Lutpin go 0-2 on this one and agree with the OP.
Not so unfortunately.If I'm wrong, you can tell me. I agree I was on the other matter with katerniko1, and I overshot the mark quite a bit.
I'm sorry for that and patched things up with him in PM.
I however don't think I'm fully wrong in this case.
I got a negative rating from him, because I'm selling my localbitcoin account.
This user is a hypocrite. What is the difference between selling bitcointalk account and lbc account?
Localbitcoin is more secure because it has a built in escrow service while bitcointalk has not. And he allow bitcointalk account selling.
Unfortunately I am going to have to make Lutpin go 0-2 on this one and agree with the OP. This user is a hypocrite. What is the difference between selling bitcointalk account and lbc account?
Localbitcoin is more secure because it has a built in escrow service while bitcointalk has not. And he allow bitcointalk account selling.
Escrow should not be released on LBC until funds are secured/received by the bitcoin seller, and funds should be in escrow prior to the bitcoin buyer sending any kind of fiat. LBC warns it's users against working outside of escrow. From what I can tell, the vast majority of LBC scams involve users not properly using the escrow system (or due to successful phishing attempts).
Established LBC accounts do however potentially allow for people to get their ads more premonitory displayed, potentially allowing more people to trade with an established account, potentially allowing for more favorable rates (and more profits) for the owner of an established LBC account.
There is no need to buy an "established" account. LBC has a good escrow system, even as a newbie it isnt a real problem to sell hundreds of BTC. Also LBC will ban the acc (in most of the cases afaik) if they get a hint that the acc was sold.
As I said previously, an established LBC account may allow you to get better rates on LBC
they try to get people to deal off site, because those accs are so trusted
Quote from: qs
LBC warns it's users against working outside of escrow. From what I can tell, the vast majority of LBC scams involve users not properly using the escrow system (or due to successful phishing attempts).
I got a negative rating from him, because I'm selling my localbitcoin account.
This user is a hypocrite. What is the difference between selling bitcointalk account and lbc account?
Localbitcoin is more secure because it has a built in escrow service while bitcointalk has not. And he allow bitcointalk account selling.
Unfortunately I am going to have to make Lutpin go 0-2 on this one and agree with the OP. This user is a hypocrite. What is the difference between selling bitcointalk account and lbc account?
Localbitcoin is more secure because it has a built in escrow service while bitcointalk has not. And he allow bitcointalk account selling.
Escrow should not be released on LBC until funds are secured/received by the bitcoin seller, and funds should be in escrow prior to the bitcoin buyer sending any kind of fiat. LBC warns it's users against working outside of escrow. From what I can tell, the vast majority of LBC scams involve users not properly using the escrow system (or due to successful phishing attempts).
Established LBC accounts do however potentially allow for people to get their ads more premonitory displayed, potentially allowing more people to trade with an established account, potentially allowing for more favorable rates (and more profits) for the owner of an established LBC account.
There is no need to buy an "established" account. LBC has a good escrow system, even as a newbie it isnt a real problem to sell hundreds of BTC. Also LBC will ban the acc (in most of the cases afaik) if they get a hint that the acc was sold.
As I said previously, an established LBC account may allow you to get better rates on LBC
they try to get people to deal off site, because those accs are so trusted
I got a negative rating from him, because I'm selling my localbitcoin account.
This user is a hypocrite. What is the difference between selling bitcointalk account and lbc account?
Localbitcoin is more secure because it has a built in escrow service while bitcointalk has not. And he allow bitcointalk account selling.
Unfortunately I am going to have to make Lutpin go 0-2 on this one and agree with the OP. This user is a hypocrite. What is the difference between selling bitcointalk account and lbc account?
Localbitcoin is more secure because it has a built in escrow service while bitcointalk has not. And he allow bitcointalk account selling.
Escrow should not be released on LBC until funds are secured/received by the bitcoin seller, and funds should be in escrow prior to the bitcoin buyer sending any kind of fiat. LBC warns it's users against working outside of escrow. From what I can tell, the vast majority of LBC scams involve users not properly using the escrow system (or due to successful phishing attempts).
Established LBC accounts do however potentially allow for people to get their ads more premonitory displayed, potentially allowing more people to trade with an established account, potentially allowing for more favorable rates (and more profits) for the owner of an established LBC account.
There is no need to buy an "established" account. LBC has a good escrow system, even as a newbie it isnt a real problem to sell hundreds of BTC. Also LBC will ban the acc (in most of the cases afaik) if they get a hint that the acc was sold.
As I said previously, an established LBC account may allow you to get better rates on LBC
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