Using a 220V wash machine outlet for power..... - page 2.

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Quote from: bitcool on March 30, 2012, 08:19:42 PM

Quote from: Littleshop on March 30, 2012, 07:38:40 PM

Quote from: zerokwel on March 30, 2012, 08:33:49 AM

if you have 7000watts of hashing power down there do you really need a dryer.. hang a few lines

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You have are movement and heat from the miners, you just need to exhaust the moist air.

Why don't you go one step further and convert the laundry room into a Sauna? Leave no watt wasted.

Because moist air is a bad thing for PCs

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Quote from: Littleshop on March 30, 2012, 07:38:40 PM

Quote from: zerokwel on March 30, 2012, 08:33:49 AM

if you have 7000watts of hashing power down there do you really need a dryer.. hang a few lines

+1

You have are movement and heat from the miners, you just need to exhaust the moist air.

Why don't you go one step further and convert the laundry room into a Sauna? Leave no watt wasted.

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Quote from: zerokwel on March 30, 2012, 08:33:49 AM

if you have 7000watts of hashing power down there do you really need a dryer.. hang a few lines

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You have are movement and heat from the miners, you just need to exhaust the moist air.

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if you have 7000watts of hashing power down there do you really need a dryer.. hang a few lines

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I lived in a trailer(single wide) & used 2 grill propane tanks for my hot water heater,stove & dryer,they would last about 2 weeks.Just need a regulator,"y" fitting made for using 2 tanks(with a pressure switch to alternate between tanks) & whatever length of hose between tanks & "t" fittings to the appliances.Got it all at the local grill store,except the longer hoses,got those at a gas supply house.I think it all cost about $250,including 4 tanks Grin

It was great not having to wait on the gas company to "fit" me in their route.Had 2 tanks as spares,so just had to rotate them when almost empty,never had to relight the pilots either.Just check for leaks with soapy water.

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Quote from: jamesg on March 29, 2012, 06:35:19 PM

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Quote from: Unacceptable on March 29, 2012, 04:33:51 PM

How about getting a gas dryer??? The outlet & all its glory will be yours Grin

this is what I am thinking now....

Until you spark the gas with your miners. I have noticed that plugging things into 208v seems to always give a little spark on initial contact.

What, you normally leave the gas whooshing out all the time waiting for a spark? Grin

Those things have pilot lights for a reason, although newer ones will probably light on demand with a high voltage starter.

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Quote from: yochdog on March 29, 2012, 06:33:03 PM

Quote from: Unacceptable on March 29, 2012, 04:33:51 PM

How about getting a gas dryer??? The outlet & all its glory will be yours Grin

this is what I am thinking now....

Probably cheaper to just keep the dryer and run a new dedicated 240V line and outlet.

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Quote from: yochdog on March 29, 2012, 06:33:03 PM

Quote from: Unacceptable on March 29, 2012, 04:33:51 PM

How about getting a gas dryer??? The outlet & all its glory will be yours Grin

this is what I am thinking now....

Until you spark the gas with your miners. I have noticed that plugging things into 208v seems to always give a little spark on initial contact.

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Quote from: Unacceptable on March 29, 2012, 04:33:51 PM

How about getting a gas dryer??? The outlet & all its glory will be yours Grin

this is what I am thinking now....

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Quote from: MrTeal on March 29, 2012, 06:01:08 PM

Also, the gas dryer is a great idea if you already have a gas line in your house. It would be much less costly to run than an electric dryer, plus it would free up your 240V plug. Just remember to be sitting when the gas fitter gives you the quote to run a line.

Run it yourself Wink

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Quote from: Littleshop on March 29, 2012, 04:04:26 PM

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Quote from: yochdog on March 29, 2012, 09:06:09 AM

So I have this fantastic utility room with lots of space, great ventilation, and a big ole 220 volt outlet.

I would like to set-up some miners in this room, but I want it to fit in seemlessly with my wife's lovely (and massive) front loading spaceship looking washer and dryer.

Anyone have some experience splitting the power outlet so multiple appliances can be hooked up? I really dont want to have to switch back and forth everytime we have to do laundry.

It would be great to run the miners off of the same outlet without doing too much re-modelling!

Any advice would be great.

LOL, switch back and forth... Do you know how much power that dryer uses? You might be able to run maybe 1 card with it running. Sad

I have the insanely efficient stuff.....the dryer might use 1800 watts, 2000 at most.

I believe the 220V is on a 40 AMP breaker, so shouldn't there be PLENTY of headroom for some miners?

I doubt the DRYER is all that insanely efficient. It is your washer that is probably energy savings (through less water use) but the electric dryer has not progressed much in the USA other then looks. The driving motor does not use much power, it is mostly the heating element

I doubt you have more then 50% spare power from that outlet with the dryer on, probably much less.

What would be the metric for judging efficiency of a dryer, I wonder? Would you take say 10kg of water as the baseline, and calculate the energy used to dry clothes wetted with 10kg of room temperature water vs the enthalpy of vaporization of the same amount of water?

Also, the gas dryer is a great idea if you already have a gas line in your house. It would be much less costly to run than an electric dryer, plus it would free up your 240V plug. Just remember to be sitting when the gas fitter gives you the quote to run a line.

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How about getting a gas dryer??? The outlet & all its glory will be yours Grin

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Quote from: yochdog on March 29, 2012, 09:18:03 AM

Quote from: pirateat40 on March 29, 2012, 09:11:00 AM

Quote from: yochdog on March 29, 2012, 09:06:09 AM

So I have this fantastic utility room with lots of space, great ventilation, and a big ole 220 volt outlet.

I would like to set-up some miners in this room, but I want it to fit in seemlessly with my wife's lovely (and massive) front loading spaceship looking washer and dryer.

Anyone have some experience splitting the power outlet so multiple appliances can be hooked up? I really dont want to have to switch back and forth everytime we have to do laundry.

It would be great to run the miners off of the same outlet without doing too much re-modelling!

Any advice would be great.

LOL, switch back and forth... Do you know how much power that dryer uses? You might be able to run maybe 1 card with it running. Sad

I have the insanely efficient stuff.....the dryer might use 1800 watts, 2000 at most.

I believe the 220V is on a 40 AMP breaker, so shouldn't there be PLENTY of headroom for some miners?

I doubt the DRYER is all that insanely efficient. It is your washer that is probably energy savings (through less water use) but the electric dryer has not progressed much in the USA other then looks. The driving motor does not use much power, it is mostly the heating element

I doubt you have more then 50% spare power from that outlet with the dryer on, probably much less.

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Quote from: silverbox on March 29, 2012, 03:18:49 PM

Quote from: yochdog on March 29, 2012, 09:06:09 AM

So I have this fantastic utility room with lots of space, great ventilation, and a big ole 220 volt outlet.

I would like to set-up some miners in this room, but I want it to fit in seemlessly with my wife's lovely (and massive) front loading spaceship looking washer and dryer.

Anyone have some experience splitting the power outlet so multiple appliances can be hooked up? I really dont want to have to switch back and forth everytime we have to do laundry.

It would be great to run the miners off of the same outlet without doing too much re-modelling!

Any advice would be great.

Tell her the outlet is yours now then direct all the heat from the gpus thru ducting to a drying rack. Hang the clothes on the rack, sell the dryer.

LOL. For the win.

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Quote from: DeathAndTaxes on March 29, 2012, 10:27:10 AM

Quote from: silverbox on March 29, 2012, 10:25:08 AM

Usually dryer outlets are 30A, I don't think I've ever seen one that is 40A.

Good point you likely are right.

Great pics D/T Grin

.If he has very new dryer it should have the 4 prong 220 outlet,NEMA 14-30,unless the whip was changed to connect to the old 3 prong outlet,NEMA 10-30.Your main concern is wire gauge.I don't know how many watts your planning on hooking up to this circuit with a dryer too,personally I wouldn't recommend it.

I install A/C units for a living,my main concern is wire gauge.On a 5 ton Air Handler with a 10kw electric heat option,6 gauge wire is preferred,8 gauge will work(not recommended by code).Thats for a 60 amp circuit,usually draws 48-52 amps max(even on start up,elements are seperated into 4 sections & come on incrementaly,blower only draws 4-5 amp on start up & comes on first).

Mr Teal's recommendation of a dedicated circuit is worth following Wink

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Quote from: yochdog on March 29, 2012, 09:06:09 AM

So I have this fantastic utility room with lots of space, great ventilation, and a big ole 220 volt outlet.

I would like to set-up some miners in this room, but I want it to fit in seemlessly with my wife's lovely (and massive) front loading spaceship looking washer and dryer.

Anyone have some experience splitting the power outlet so multiple appliances can be hooked up? I really dont want to have to switch back and forth everytime we have to do laundry.

It would be great to run the miners off of the same outlet without doing too much re-modelling!

Any advice would be great.

Tell her the outlet is yours now then direct all the heat from the gpus thru ducting to a drying rack. Hang the clothes on the rack, sell the dryer.

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Quote from: Schleicher on March 29, 2012, 01:38:07 PM

Quote from: MrTeal on March 29, 2012, 10:27:43 AM

If it's an electric dryer, I would be shocked if it actually used 2kW. It would take forever to dry a load at that power.

Well, about 2 hours with 1150W would be state of the art right now. At least for a german dryer.
But I suspect that his dryer is a lot bigger.

Sorry, my German is non-existent and google isn't helping. Where on there does it say it draws 1150W?
Also, 2 hours is a really long drying time. Tongue

For reference, I looked at Samsung's page, and a dryer like this one has a 5300W heating element. Most cycles might not run the element full out, but I wouldn't be shocked if current draw got close to 25A while it's heating on a fast dry cycle.

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Quote from: MrTeal on March 29, 2012, 10:27:43 AM

If it's an electric dryer, I would be shocked if it actually used 2kW. It would take forever to dry a load at that power.

Well, about 2 hours with 1150W would be state of the art right now. At least for a german dryer.
But I suspect that his dryer is a lot bigger.

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If it's an electric dryer, I would be shocked if it actually used 2kW. It would take forever to dry a load at that power. I would expect it to be double that. We'll have a better idea when he gives the model number, but expect it to be closer to 5kW than 2kW when it's on high.

Yochdog, is your dryer close by your panel? If you're reasonably handy, spend the $40 or whatever it is for a permit and install another 240V circuit yourself. If you don't feel comfortable doing that, you should have no problem finding an apprentice electrician doing a little extra work on the side who'd install the parts for you for $50. Even hiring someone might cost under $200 including all the parts, and it'd be done correctly.

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