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Topic: Using Intel CPU and Motherboard ? Your Bitcoins may be in actual danger. - page 4. (Read 5038 times)

legendary
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One thing I'm struggling with here: Intel AMT is a part of the motherboard chipset for laptops as well as desktops and servers. The typical server could get some pretty significant utility out of AMT: remote power cycling might not get used every day, but that capability would be highly valuable if or when it was needed.

So, who leaves their laptop behind them someplace, ethernet connected to a router, just in case they need to remotely flash a new BIOS revision in an emergency!? It just can't wait till you get back to do it, and of course you're not taking the laptop (read: portable computer...) with you, despite the danger that you'll desperately need to power it off and change the boot order of your disks? Can anyone think of a realistic usage for this technology in a laptop?
legendary
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The Q is, how Intel will get to know which machine is to attack ? Moreover, all online bank accounts and credit or debit cards are also exposed to this vulnerability.
legendary
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AMD-User ^^
But why dont plug-off the computer / laptop ?!

Best regards


Wake-On-LAN (WOL) can  be used to turn on/off devices remotely. I can't remember where the links are, but a few DELL servers had this auto enabled from the factory.
legendary
Activity: 3430
Merit: 3079
But why dont plug-off the computer / laptop ?!

Have you heard of power-over-ethernet?

Use an external laptop battery charger so your off-line laptop will never connect to the power socket.

And don't forget to wrap the laptop and your head with tinfoil

Not ethernet-over-power, power-over-ethernet. It's called grammar: the order in which words are placed determines their meaning. Give it a try sometime.   
legendary
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But why dont plug-off the computer / laptop ?!

Have you heard of power-over-ethernet?

Use an external laptop battery charger so your off-line laptop will never connect to the power socket.

And don't forget to wrap the laptop and your head with tinfoil
legendary
Activity: 3430
Merit: 3079
But why dont plug-off the computer / laptop ?!

Have you heard of power-over-ethernet?
sr. member
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AMD-User ^^
But why dont plug-off the computer / laptop ?!

Best regards
legendary
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Merit: 1205
No one will care until its too late.

I care, but i'm the average Joe,  what can I do?
sr. member
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I wish I had something encouraging to say about this, but I don't. Nevertheless, I am incredibly thankful to ShadowOfHarbringer for bringing this horror to more people's attention. The implications are staggering.
legendary
Activity: 1064
Merit: 1000
My reddit thread got silent-removed even though i had like 50 upvotes ?
How the hell does reddit moderation work ?

Should I start to believe in reddit conspiracies or something ?

I don't think it's any secret that reddit has long had corporate backers, but without knowing why the mods removed the thread, it's total speculation. Either way, it makes a mockery of the whole upvote/downvote system, reddit needs a decentalised/uncensorable FOSS clone to supersede the compromised original.

+1 to a decentalised/uncensorable FOSS clone. reddit is definitely not what it was in the "good ole days".
legendary
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★ BitClave ICO: 15/09/17 ★
There's always risks of course, They always want MOAR data about us.
I'm using an offline old computer (pentium 4 cpu and runs original XP-not cracked) to save my BTC Grin
I'm thinking to build a mobile&secure wallet with open source hardwares.
legendary
Activity: 3430
Merit: 3079
My reddit thread got silent-removed even though i had like 50 upvotes ?
How the hell does reddit moderation work ?

Should I start to believe in reddit conspiracies or something ?

I don't think it's any secret that reddit has long had corporate backers, but without knowing why the mods removed the thread, it's total speculation. Either way, it makes a mockery of the whole upvote/downvote system, reddit needs a decentalised/uncensorable FOSS clone to supersede the compromised original.
legendary
Activity: 1470
Merit: 1006
Bringing Legendary Har® to you since 1952
My reddit thread got silent-removed even though i had like 50 upvotes ?
How the hell does reddit moderation work ?

Should I start to believe in reddit conspiracies or something ?
legendary
Activity: 1064
Merit: 1000
And this special CPU has higher priority when it comes to control of the system than normal CPU. This is disgusting.

It is, rather like Sony secretly installing rootkits as part of their DRM program. Upvoted you on reddit good Sir.
legendary
Activity: 1666
Merit: 1205
I am not tech-savy enough for all this stuff, but I hate to have gov/companies backdoors on my devices.

Are smartphone/tablets supposed to be secure? I rarely turn on my pc nowdays..
legendary
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Bringing Legendary Har® to you since 1952
For remote access, a cooperating network interface is required: Intel ethernet adapters, Intel WiFi adapters, and certain 3G modems are supported. If you can, replace Intel-made network interfaces with ones made by a different manufacturer, that do not support AMT.

Apparently for the remote control to work, you also need to have Intel network card, so not using any Intel network hardware should keep you safe from remote attack.
legendary
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Make sure that you have a router with ARM CPU, linux and configured by yourself. Then you are at least safe when the computer is closed.


Of course, the safest is to keep it unplugged or at least not connected to internet Smiley
legendary
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Bringing Legendary Har® to you since 1952
How do we know that AMD doesnt have something similar?
We don't. But apparently, even if they have something, it is nowhere near the level of complexity and sophistication of Intel's technology.
Intel has a goddamn separate CPU that you can run apps (think rootkits) on.

And this special CPU has higher priority when it comes to control of the system than normal CPU. This is disgusting.
legendary
Activity: 1666
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How do we know that AMD doesnt have something similar?

What can one do since it is a monopoly?

Pen and paper Smiley


...or build your own CPU
legendary
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getmonero.org
How do we know that AMD doesnt have something similar?

What can one do since it is a monopoly?
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