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legendary
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February 25, 2020, 04:07:10 PM
#51
As far as I know some countries are considering posibility to use blockchain technology in election process. That sounds like a good idea however it must be tested in details. When it comes to election trust and security are very important and citizens must feel confident about such system and that is not easy to achieve, we all know that fear of manipulation is always present.
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February 25, 2020, 02:34:12 PM
#50
Blockchain and elections can be a great pair, but first, they need to be tested. Well, in any case, this version of the electoral system also has its drawbacks. Someone can arrange a DDOS attack by simply scoring the network so that it cannot process votes efficiently, or even gain access to part of the votes, and thereby undermine the election process.


This is really needed since this is the first time we use that for election and might we will face some struggles for certain attacks,manipulation or others for this new innovation. But if this will work smoothly for sure blockchain technology will get a huge attention and might bitcoins an cryptocurrency will gain fame for this.


If there's no intervals from any government sectors then using blockchain is fits with this system, there are no manipulation that will take place,
knowing the computing factors of this chain, it will be a big help if this plan will materialized.
If the intentions is genuine this implementations will benefits every country that will embrace this system.
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February 25, 2020, 02:21:07 PM
#49
Blockchain and elections can be a great pair, but first, they need to be tested. Well, in any case, this version of the electoral system also has its drawbacks. Someone can arrange a DDOS attack by simply scoring the network so that it cannot process votes efficiently, or even gain access to part of the votes, and thereby undermine the election process
If a country is building a blockchain integrated in their election do you think that the network will be allowed to connect globally to be afraid of the DDOS attack, so we do not need to worry about that someone will game the system as everything will be registered in the blockchain and you cannot fake those registry and the biggest question will be whether a corrupted government will allow these to be integrated.
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February 25, 2020, 01:25:05 PM
#48
Blockchain and elections can be a great pair, but first, they need to be tested. Well, in any case, this version of the electoral system also has its drawbacks. Someone can arrange a DDOS attack by simply scoring the network so that it cannot process votes efficiently, or even gain access to part of the votes, and thereby undermine the election process.
This is not impossible to happen since the blockchain technology is innovating as time passes by, I can say that maybe sometime if there are some projects will use this idea to their platform, it is good for everyone especially to those countries who are doing some elections to elect their presidents and any other person who is doing campaign. This can make the countings or any other things that are connected to the election. They should propose some attributes in which they can locate who is doing some flying votes which are not fair for those candidates who really fight with honesty.

Blockchain and elections can be a great pair, but first, they need to be tested. Well, in any case, this version of the electoral system also has its drawbacks. Someone can arrange a DDOS attack by simply scoring the network so that it cannot process votes efficiently, or even gain access to part of the votes, and thereby undermine the election process.
This is really needed since this is the first time we use that for election and might we will face some struggles for certain attacks,manipulation or others for this new innovation. But if this will work smoothly for sure blockchain technology will get a huge attention and might bitcoins an cryptocurrency will gain fame for this.
Indeed, it might help every country and can make the election easier, and not only that, because of the blockchain technology, the cryptocurrency might get a lot of interest to those investors and any other businessman who knew about it, how good blockchain technology is, and how better to make some investments here with cryptocurrency.
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February 25, 2020, 09:51:40 AM
#47
Blockchain and elections can be a great pair, but first, they need to be tested. Well, in any case, this version of the electoral system also has its drawbacks. Someone can arrange a DDOS attack by simply scoring the network so that it cannot process votes efficiently, or even gain access to part of the votes, and thereby undermine the election process.


This is really needed since this is the first time we use that for election and might we will face some struggles for certain attacks,manipulation or others for this new innovation. But if this will work smoothly for sure blockchain technology will get a huge attention and might bitcoins an cryptocurrency will gain fame for this.



I think we must test it and work through any issues there could appear. Offline elections are habitual, so are the manipulations of regular elections - imo we are not that critical on them as we are on blockchain's ones.
But offline elections has no potential unlike online ones.
legendary
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February 25, 2020, 08:09:46 AM
#46

So as the research says, it could be a bad idea to let people vote using some apps. So they might intercept it before the vote can be written to the blockchain. So for now, there are more questions and cons against it. And we all know that once it is written in the blockchain it can't be change.

These are some cons if votes would pass into a certain app on certain individual.I would rather prefer on having the same set-up of voting system which
voters would still need to go into the voting place and using up or registering up their votes into a particular machine which would register in blockchain.
Its a better option that having that individual voting yet we have seen the cons on using those apps or something related.
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February 25, 2020, 07:59:30 AM
#45
Blockchain and elections can be a great pair, but first, they need to be tested. Well, in any case, this version of the electoral system also has its drawbacks. Someone can arrange a DDOS attack by simply scoring the network so that it cannot process votes efficiently, or even gain access to part of the votes, and thereby undermine the election process.


This is really needed since this is the first time we use that for election and might we will face some struggles for certain attacks,manipulation or others for this new innovation. But if this will work smoothly for sure blockchain technology will get a huge attention and might bitcoins an cryptocurrency will gain fame for this.

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February 25, 2020, 06:50:33 AM
#44
Blockchain and elections can be a great pair, but first, they need to be tested. Well, in any case, this version of the electoral system also has its drawbacks. Someone can arrange a DDOS attack by simply scoring the network so that it cannot process votes efficiently, or even gain access to part of the votes, and thereby undermine the election process.
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February 25, 2020, 05:34:53 AM
#43
One usage of blockchain technology is for voting yet the majority still doesn't use blockchain technology during elections.
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"India’s citizens will soon be able to cast votes from outside their city of registration thanks to a blockchain-based system."

Every election, we encounter some citizens who don't vote because of their reasons. It's either they don't want any candidate or they can't vote because they're living far from the voting places.
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"The commissioner said that regulators are collaborating with the Indian Institute of Technology to develop a blockchain system that would allow citizens to vote remotely."

This can help those who have a problem with the distance from their house to the voting place and it's also a way to prevent multiple votings.

Source:
https://cointelegraph.com/news/indias-citizens-will-vote-with-blockchain-election-commissioner-says


The plan of using blockchain technology in voting is to make it more convenient for others and to make it fraud-proof. During elections, we can really see a lot of things happening, especially for those candidates who really want to win so they will manipulate the result. But with blockchain, it will be hard for them to change and manipulate it. With this, we can achieve more transparency when it comes to the votes.

As a concerned citizen, I know what my country is facing, and I feel bad for our situation because those who don't deserve to be in the position are sitting prettily in their thrones. I really think that the different governments should try exploring this technology to help them because it will totally make things easier and more accurate than the usual system where they can cheat. The government shouldn't be afraid of trying it unless they want to manipulate the results.

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Blockchain can be used in various field and one of that is voting. Although voting is one of blockchain's main usage, not everyone knew nor even aware of it. That's why further practices and studies should be done so they can maximize the use of blockchain technology. Just like what I have said, with this technology, it'll be easier to collect votes and it can't be easily manipulated by someone. I only have limited knowledge about the use-cases of blockchain and I still studying it.




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With the aid of blockchain technology, it is really possible to have election using a blockchain based system. With its design, it would be hard for dishonest candidates to manipulate the data inputted by the person. It would record the vote of one person and that vote would remain as it is resistant to modification. Once used, it would be hard to alter the data without altering the succeeding data.

However, with such power of a candidate, he/she could do tricks just as to acquire power over people. Hackers could easily attack the votes, delete it or even manipulate. Regardless of the security of blockchain and its design, when there's will there's a way. And I think this is possible for using blockchain too. What we need are not misconceptions and doubts but actions and will. Not only to improve the current state of bitcoin's acceptance but for the country's sake as well as its people.
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February 25, 2020, 04:47:47 AM
#42
I do not think that governments can "control" blockchain, they can create it but blockchain is designed to be transparent and it is designed to be decentralized. Which means if elections are ever on blockchain it could be the fairest election ever with everyone being able to check whats going on and if there is anything abnormal then should be people can show it with proof. The problem is not elections anymore, it is more about social engineering now.

There are so many factually wrong stuff going around for the nominees that Trump basically got elected on full of lies, when it was about LGBT he showed the rednecks how he is against it with ads addressed to them and he showed how he supports them to LGBT ads addressed to LGBT. When it is farmers he addressed them differently when it is trade wars he addressed differently.

So, even if elections are fully fair, we now have news and ads all election engineered into winning and doing whatever politicians wants.
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February 24, 2020, 05:19:09 PM
#41
I love the idea until I saw this article:

Flaws in the blockchain app some states plan to use in the 2020 election allow bad actors to alter or cancel someone’s vote or expose their private info.

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Security researchers have found key flaws in a mobile voting app that some states plan to use in the 2020 election that can allow hackers to launch both client- and server-side attacks that can easily manipulate or even delete someone’s vote, as well as prevent a reliable audit from taking place after the fact, they said.

A team of researchers at MIT released a security audit of Voatz—a blockchain app that already was used in a limited way for absentee-ballot voting in the 2018 mid-term elections—that they said bolsters the case for why internet voting is a bad idea and voting transparency is the only way to ensure legitimacy.
Hackers Can Seize Control of Ballots Cast Using the Voatz Voting App, Researchers Say

https://threatpost.com/hackers-can-seize-control-of-ballots-cast-using-the-voatz-voting-app-researchers-say/152883/

So as the research says, it could be a bad idea to let people vote using some apps. So they might intercept it before the vote can be written to the blockchain. So for now, there are more questions and cons against it. And we all know that once it is written in the blockchain it can't be change.
legendary
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February 24, 2020, 03:33:32 PM
#40
Using of Blockchain in Election

You definitely need blockchain where transactions cant be linked like Monero blockchain for votings. We dont want to see that everyone knows who you or anyone else voted for.
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February 24, 2020, 02:11:28 PM
#39
Yeah blockchain voting isn't a very good idea. The issue is that someone can get hold of someone else's keys or companies could ask their staff to hand keys over or something else like that - which may go unreported...
No government is going to implement these blockchain technology based voting system right away with the current-state where it is today. We have super brains and super cops to fine-tune the system from its today's state to possible "production-ready" state.

When they start learning how to airgap stuff then I'll agree with you on that one...

At the moment most "experts" are merely people that have tricked others into thinking they know better. Nothing will ever be completely safe, especially if the government controls it, and saying something will be is just making it more interesting for people to hack to vote themselves in...
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February 24, 2020, 06:02:04 AM
#38
Yeah blockchain voting isn't a very good idea. The issue is that someone can get hold of someone else's keys or companies could ask their staff to hand keys over or something else like that - which may go unreported...

It is not the only issue

However, personally, I think the advantages and benefits still massively outweigh possible drawbacks and hiccups. If we take your example (as an example), handing over the keys could unleash all sorts of potential problems for the management of that company (as well as their staff who agreed to give up their keys) once it becomes known

But in essence it is not particularly different from just telling or hinting how your employees should vote. So even in this "use case", or rather misuse and abuse, blockchain proves to be a step forward as it allows to catch these influencers red-handed
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February 24, 2020, 05:04:16 AM
#37
The problem I see with a voting system like this, is if it is government controlled. So, once a government is in control of the Blockchain and the mining and also the protocol development, they can manipulate it. We have already seen governments wanting to create their own Blockchain based Crypto currencies that are stripped of all anonymity, so are we going to see a voting system going that same route?

How do you implement a voting system that are done on a Blockchain, without identifying the actual voters and still having a reliable and trustworthy system that cannot be cheated and manipulated? Yes, you can go on total vote count and whatever is done on the centralized Blockchain, but how do you tackle the voting for separate provinces or states on a single Blockchain?
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February 24, 2020, 03:49:10 AM
#36
Yeah blockchain voting isn't a very good idea. The issue is that someone can get hold of someone else's keys or companies could ask their staff to hand keys over or something else like that - which may go unreported...
No government is going to implement these blockchain technology based voting system right away with the current-state where it is today. We have super brains and super cops to fine-tune the system from its today's state to possible "production-ready" state.

It is too early to conclude like "it has flaws hence it may get misused; let's stick with what we already have". Technology will self-reevaluate to make us adopt them without complaining till then let's watch or if possible let us contribute toward building them rather than criticizing.

I completely agree that deploying it in a large scale immediately is a horrible idea, but a few breakthroughs here and there could make them plausible in the future.
Yes, this is how we do have new systems and technologies. I strongly believe the concept is more important and making it practical/implemented will happen over the time by slowly eliminating all the pitfalls.
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February 24, 2020, 01:19:17 AM
#35
I can see the potential of blockchain if it is to be used for election. The main feature of blockchain is its decentralization and publicity of records wherein people can see the full results of election without relying to any third parties or people who can be manipulated using the old voting system. My only concern is that, what if manipulation comes to the people who will vote? We all know that politicians or someone who wants power will always do their best no matter what it takes just to gain that power. Well we can't really do something about that, no matter how good a system is, it will still be the greedy one who will win in the end. Sad but true.

Blockchain is one of the fastest transactions today and many people are using the cryptocurrency and we all know that the market price of the crypto today and many people would like to include in the world of crypto. Also, it is a good chance that bitcoin or crypto is use for the campaigns for election because there is a lot of earning with the use of it but also it benefits only to the people who are know how to use of crypto but still if we use of it this can be used to manipulate the votes because it is a big market value and it can change a lot of votes and decision. Still, we are looking for good use of blockchain for the elections.
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February 23, 2020, 09:39:57 PM
#34
I can see the potential of blockchain if it is to be used for election. The main feature of blockchain is its decentralization and publicity of records wherein people can see the full results of election without relying to any third parties or people who can be manipulated using the old voting system. My only concern is that, what if manipulation comes to the people who will vote? We all know that politicians or someone who wants power will always do their best no matter what it takes just to gain that power. Well we can't really do something about that, no matter how good a system is, it will still be the greedy one who will win in the end. Sad but true.
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February 23, 2020, 01:04:35 PM
#33
If electronic voting is bad, what is better? Paper ballots?
Using blockchain in election isn't very new idea.
India’s citizens will soon be able to cast votes from outside their city of registration thanks to a blockchain-based system: https://cointelegraph.com/news/indias-citizens-will-vote-with-blockchain-election-commissioner-says

Even though this idea is not new, but it is not been implemented in many places of the world. If blockchain is used in election, there will be no tempering or manipulation in the results of the election. This would be a perfect system of choosing the political party fairly.
Also i assume that those countries where there is a lot of fraud in election process, they will not agree to adopt this method easily.

indeed there was already a thread that discussed it, but I admit that with the blockchain that is used for elections, it will get many benefits, in addition to accurate and fast counting, we do not encounter fraud in vote counting. I hope this can be applied immediately, especially for a country with many inhabitants
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February 23, 2020, 10:28:30 AM
#32
This is more of a "big country does it so small country follows it" type of deal and not the other way around. If some small nation does this that will not have a huge impact on the world politics, however if huge nations like USA starts doing it, that could change some stuff.

However, looking at those nations we see a lot of election fraud going on which is done by people who exactly profits from the election fraud, so someone who wins illegally won't put in a motion to make the elections more transparent, that would result with them losing. So in the end, we are looking at bad people to not do bad stuff yet again in politics and we all know how that goes on, it doesn't really do well. That is why I do not see it becoming federal at any level right now.
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