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Quote from: oleg8791 on February 20, 2020, 10:43:19 PM

If electronic voting is bad, what is better? Paper ballots?
Using blockchain in election isn't very new idea.
India’s citizens will soon be able to cast votes from outside their city of registration thanks to a blockchain-based system: https://cointelegraph.com/news/indias-citizens-will-vote-with-blockchain-election-commissioner-says

Even though this idea is not new, but it is not been implemented in many places of the world. If blockchain is used in election, there will be no tempering or manipulation in the results of the election. This would be a perfect system of choosing the political party fairly.
Also i assume that those countries where there is a lot of fraud in election process, they will not agree to adopt this method easily.

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I believe that using the blockchain in the election of the country's leadership or for holding referenda will lead humanity to a more democratic system, since no one can fake the results of the will of the people. Well, since the possibilities of the blockchain diverge from the new views of governments or existing clans, it is unlikely that in the near future we will see the realization of such an idea of using blockchain in elections.

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The truth is that the world is really not ready to be making use of Blockchain for voting. Do you even know voting with Blockchain works? A few tests has been done in some countries like the US and Russia, and that shows how the process works. Voters will need to upload their government issued ID and a selfie, the technology then scans the ID and the selfie they uploaded to check whether they match.

When it’s confirmed it will be authenticated as eligible and the user given a token that they will use in voting for their favorite candidate (the candidates are assigned particular addresses). The voters use the token to vote and they remain anonymous. But according to one of my research we need advanced computer systems to be able to use Blockchain for voting.

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Quote from: Arcas on February 19, 2020, 12:54:24 PM

Good ideas when blockchain technology adpted in election system, right now many countries always use bad system when election time, we do not know who is the winner because system look old and not allowing with digital technology era.

Using blockchain in election doesn't mean that it will literally remove all election fraud. But adopting this technology can definitely improve the system of election. Less mistakes and failures from the system they're currently using. In my country, during elections we often experience machine failure it's because of the lack of development. There will always be manipulation when it comes to election because of those greedy people but I believe that it will lessen these kind of things.

Blockchain election system can be quite profitable for us - people by clarifying the election process.
But I've seen some people making hype about everything with "blockchain" label on it because it is about adopting technologies.
I personally don't think that blockchain elections will make bitcoin any bit stronger

Yeah it may not make bitcoin any stronger but the fact that the countries all around the world will adapt to blockchain will make a big impact to the cryptocurrency world, having blockchain used in different systems not only in voting will somehow make bitcoin and cryptocurrency have some weight in the interest of people because blockchain was used in crypto and they can ignore about that. Blockchain make systems more fair and convenient.

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Quote from: oleg8791 on February 20, 2020, 10:43:19 PM

If electronic voting is bad, what is better? Paper ballots?

both arent bad actually . if everyone is honest people wont switch to newer system but no , thats why they upgrade to have a better security .

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Using blockchain in election isn't very new idea.

yes . i already heard of it before many times before this one but the question is thier local implement it already ? im waiting for someone that have a guts to try one out .

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India’s citizens will soon be able to cast votes from outside their city of registration thanks to a blockchain-based system: https://cointelegraph.com/news/indias-citizens-will-vote-with-blockchain-election-commissioner-says

anyone can cast a vote online even without blockchain but by using blockchain , it can make the voting more secure and free from frauds .

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If electronic voting is bad, what is better? Paper ballots?
Using blockchain in election isn't very new idea.
India’s citizens will soon be able to cast votes from outside their city of registration thanks to a blockchain-based system: https://cointelegraph.com/news/indias-citizens-will-vote-with-blockchain-election-commissioner-says

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Quote from: Hydrogen on February 19, 2020, 06:43:37 PM

Electronic voting is a real world application utilized in elections for decades now. Its not a theoretical vaporware pipedream scenario, in the way that many seem to mistakenly believe current day voting systems are still exclusively paper trail based. Its a common and ubiquitous aspect of elections and politics throughout the world. Blockchain based systems can carry advantages in insuring the integrity of data, if they are implemented correctly. And if they are complimented by solid end user authentication systems such as voters being required to provide ID to vote.

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India itself may be too polarized a setting to implement a secure electronic based voting system.

There are too many conflicting political interests for something as important as a national voting system to be developed independently without some bias being built into it. I think for something like this to work, it would need to be developed and implemented independently by someone
who can objectively look at things and ensure the design fits the theory of how such a thing should be built.

Shouldn't be left for "someone" to develop. It should be developed transparently. Stuff like election (and other public matter) too delicate to be left in the hands of one person or few people to manage in non transparent manner. I don't see why it can't be developed transparently. I am not sure I wouldnt trust any election material that is developed in the dark.

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Quote from: Arcas on February 19, 2020, 12:54:24 PM

Good ideas when blockchain technology adpted in election system, right now many countries always use bad system when election time, we do not know who is the winner because system look old and not allowing with digital technology era.

Using blockchain in election doesn't mean that it will literally remove all election fraud. But adopting this technology can definitely improve the system of election. Less mistakes and failures from the system they're currently using. In my country, during elections we often experience machine failure it's because of the lack of development. There will always be manipulation when it comes to election because of those greedy people but I believe that it will lessen these kind of things.

Blockchain election system can be quite profitable for us - people by clarifying the election process.
But I've seen some people making hype about everything with "blockchain" label on it because it is about adopting technologies.
I personally don't think that blockchain elections will make bitcoin any bit stronger

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I believe that the similar functionality offered by the blockchain technology is necessary first of all to countries in which election fraud occurs.
However, there is another side - states that falsify elections are not profitable to hold fair elections using blockchain technology.
At the same time, a democratic and private state that does not falsify such a system does not need so much.
The authorities of the countries of the third world will remain at a low level of development until the moment the current authorities are replaced.

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Quote from: Arcas on February 19, 2020, 12:54:24 PM

Good ideas when blockchain technology adpted in election system, right now many countries always use bad system when election time, we do not know who is the winner because system look old and not allowing with digital technology era.

Using blockchain in election doesn't mean that it will literally remove all election fraud. But adopting this technology can definitely improve the system of election. Less mistakes and failures from the system they're currently using. In my country, during elections we often experience machine failure it's because of the lack of development. There will always be manipulation when it comes to election because of those greedy people but I believe that it will lessen these kind of things.

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I read that many states are now planning to use blockchain technology in order to switch to an electronic voting system and forget about paper ballots. My country is also actively discussing this issue. As with all innovations, there are great advantages and some disadvantages. Of course, electronic voting greatly simplifies the voting process and is less costly. Blockchain technology creates additional conveniences and reliable guarantees for election participants in the transparency of this process. However, any technology cannot be absolutely immune from various abuses. Paper ballots make it possible to recount votes if there are reasonable doubts about the objectivity of the election process. With the electronic version of voting, probably only a re-vote is possible. Well, technological progress is irreversible, let's see how it will look in practice.

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There must be a research to actually use blockchain technology in voting, it could be that what is targeted or expected from use it not as easy as tought.
One of the goals is to minimize manipulate voting but using the blockchain the chance still exists becuase it could be that the voters are not the actual voters.
Sometimes the traditional way is far more effective to resolve a case than forcing a technology to be applied which may not be suitable in that case.
My country should be the first country to use it, but the problem is harder than using the old system because citizen or area that far away from election place also not yet familiar with cellphone and the internet connections.

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Perhaps, if the world isn't using blockchain based voting systems which has the capability to make the most secured voting system, there is a problem within the body that approves the use of it in the country. There might be a reason that politicians themselves doesn't really want to have this kind of system in a sense that they don't want an absolute system that maintains integrity and for them to have the chance to fabricate voting results. In some other reason, it might need additional time to beta test to ensure that the system would work.

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@hatshepsut93 I saw the 2nd video, Tom made a couple of interesting points which I do agree on but right at the end, he went on to promote Dashlane... LMAO... Kinda seems ironic, he gave an example of a man hearing your voting result and saying just Trust me... Same is the case with Dashlane, Let us generate these "Random" passwords for you and let us handle it in the CLOUD... What can go wrong LOL... Anyway, I still want to point out that there is no benefit of using Blockchain if the public won't participate in "mining". If the "mining" is being done by the Electoral Commission, there is nothing stopping them to manipulate the blockchain, Basically do the 51% attack themselves... Unless you can make your voters participate in the "mining" which will be a monumental task to pull off... there is no way of proving that the results weren't manipulated even if the blockchain is used and by making your voters the miners this opens up another can of worms which is these people will most likely be mining on PCs infected by malware and other backdoors so yeah I agree with Tom, Electronic voting is not easy to pull off and we should stay away from it for now at least...

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Electronic voting is a real world application utilized in elections for decades now. Its not a theoretical vaporware pipedream scenario, in the way that many seem to mistakenly believe current day voting systems are still exclusively paper trail based. Its a common and ubiquitous aspect of elections and politics throughout the world. Blockchain based systems can carry advantages in insuring the integrity of data, if they are implemented correctly. And if they are complimented by solid end user authentication systems such as voters being required to provide ID to vote.

India itself may be too polarized a setting to implement a secure electronic based voting system.

There are too many conflicting political interests for something as important as a national voting system to be developed independently without some bias being built into it. I think for something like this to work, it would need to be developed and implemented independently by someone who can objectively look at things and ensure the design fits the theory of how such a thing should be built.

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At the very first view of it, we can see the good points of it but until it hasn't been tested and tried, we will not see the other implications of it.
There's pros and cons of it but we would like to see a partial trial of it or probably with an official election even from company's board of election to see how the results are and then next to the possible true election of government officials.

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Apart from the distance which might not make some people vote, another major reason is their vote might not get counted due to some malpractice but nobody can do that with blockchain. It will be good if this can be adopted by the Government of all categories for a fair and free election. People will be more than willing to cast their vote since there is a high degree that it will get counted

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It's a good appliance for block technology, everything is more transparent, each vote ca be traced and, i guess, it's more democratic compared to the traditional way.

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Good ideas when blockchain technology adpted in election system, right now many countries always use bad system when election time, we do not know who is the winner because system look old and not allowing with digital technology era.

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Of course, blockchain could be a great system but you are forgetting that almost all the political leading parties of the world know the fact that they are not liked as soon as they take up offices, that is why they try to meddle with the elections as much as possible, if all nations had 100% voting with all the information out on the open with absolutely no election fraud at all, that would result with elections going to a different party every single time, this is not about left or right or anything else, whoever is the leader at that moment will lose their seat next election and whoever wins that will lose after that because politicians are politicians and they will never be loved by the 100% of their nations.

That is why I doubt anyone will be making blockchain voting something common in the world, there could be part applications but it will never be 100% blockchain based.

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