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Kakumei

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Quote from: mroks on November 06, 2017, 07:32:11 AM

just been ban from the telegram group, I just ask what people think about this revue I did not want to make mess on the ico. Just want some feedback and informations.

thx for the censorship, you should worry

I apologise, one of our mods must have overreacted. They're instructed to take care of FUD.

Yes, I’ve read it and I’ve also read the full chat between Nuno and him. Personally, it reads like it is written with a negative agenda as he specifically chose not to disclose a lot of information that Nuno provided him (school, university degree, companies he founded, skype, facebook, …). Instead, he chose to write an article that feels like an attack under the false pretenses.

Feel free to always hit me up on Telegram (@rebers) if you have any problems.

You're unbanned now.

mroks

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just been ban from the telegram group, I just ask what people think about this revue https://cryptobriefing.com/utrust-ico-review-token-analysis/ I did not want to make mess on the ico. Just want some feedback and informations.

thx for the censorship, you should worry

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Ico is ending in two days. Isn't it short that only 1 weeks for ico?

Actually, they raised a respectable amount already but still, they can raise more if they extend it just for 10 more days.

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Quote from: 2012 on November 06, 2017, 07:22:33 AM

Quote from: alphashotgun on November 06, 2017, 07:14:22 AM

Quote from: the_donald on November 06, 2017, 06:49:14 AM

Quote from: SEELE^^01 on November 06, 2017, 05:32:05 AM

well, the dump of the bounty hunters will surely drop the price after the ico for sure. but if the bounty hunters tokens are locked for lets say 1-2 months, a dump would not affect the price very much.

wouldn't the dump happen then instead? the price decreasing would only be delayed.

its a normal thing that there is something like a bounty dump and everybody knows that. its even appreciated by people who want a lil lower price than the icoprice. the time after that states the real price

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bounty-utrust-token-the-future-of-online-payments-is-here-2078526

Please move this bounty related talk into relevant thread it doesn't make any sense to keep talking about bounty people will dump or not. Let this main thread clean for general discussion.

Im absolutely agree! People write about bounty, but dont partipiciate in this bounty even. Its general thread for general question / discussion (about project, not for bounty).

2012

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Quote from: alphashotgun on November 06, 2017, 07:14:22 AM

Quote from: the_donald on November 06, 2017, 06:49:14 AM

Quote from: SEELE^^01 on November 06, 2017, 05:32:05 AM

well, the dump of the bounty hunters will surely drop the price after the ico for sure. but if the bounty hunters tokens are locked for lets say 1-2 months, a dump would not affect the price very much.

wouldn't the dump happen then instead? the price decreasing would only be delayed.

its a normal thing that there is something like a bounty dump and everybody knows that. its even appreciated by people who want a lil lower price than the icoprice. the time after that states the real price

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bounty-utrust-token-the-future-of-online-payments-is-here-2078526

Please move this bounty related talk into relevant thread it doesn't make any sense to keep talking about bounty people will dump or not. Let this main thread clean for general discussion.

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Quote from: the_donald on November 06, 2017, 06:49:14 AM

Quote from: SEELE^^01 on November 06, 2017, 05:32:05 AM

well, the dump of the bounty hunters will surely drop the price after the ico for sure. but if the bounty hunters tokens are locked for lets say 1-2 months, a dump would not affect the price very much.

wouldn't the dump happen then instead? the price decreasing would only be delayed.

its a normal thing that there is something like a bounty dump and everybody knows that. its even appreciated by people who want a lil lower price than the icoprice. the time after that states the real price

sebfl88

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Can someone tell me when the KYC process starts? How do I upload or send my personal data to get the coins later?

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Quote from: SEELE^^01 on November 06, 2017, 05:32:05 AM

well, the dump of the bounty hunters will surely drop the price after the ico for sure. but if the bounty hunters tokens are locked for lets say 1-2 months, a dump would not affect the price very much.

wouldn't the dump happen then instead? the price decreasing would only be delayed.

magisterr

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What you say about? I partipiating in bounty and want to hold my tokens. But better distribute bounty asap, than people, who want to sell - sold tokens and price growing. If they hold our tokens, than people will wait bounty and investors also will selling their tokens cheaper in this 2 month.

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Quote from: SEELE^^01 on November 06, 2017, 05:32:05 AM

well, the dump of the bounty hunters will surely drop the price after the ico for sure. but if the bounty hunters tokens are locked for lets say 1-2 months, a dump would not affect the price very much.

I don't think that this would work. I haven't seen it working in the past anyway. People will just wait for the bounty drop to come and won't invest without a dump happening before. Decent even tried to give bounties in batches after a month lock up, look how that went.

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Quote from: toolucky98 on November 06, 2017, 03:50:09 AM

Actually, the bounty hunters will only have about 5% of the total token supply.
If the token's price is drop more than 5% , then its not only because of bounty hunters.
The thing is you wont prevent the dump if youre only thinking about bounty hunters.

Thats not correct.
If someone of the bounty hunters sell the tokens 3 times under the ico value price will drop a lot. It all depends on what the ask as price.

Lets hope after this ICO the price will go up instead of down

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Quote from: xaviervilla on November 05, 2017, 11:13:31 AM

Quote from: Rigorous on October 28, 2017, 10:39:01 AM

Quote from: Kakumei on October 28, 2017, 06:38:39 AM

The thing is, UTRUST is always being 100% compliant. Other ICOs which I won't mention here already have problems with this. Some of them may run into legal issues in the future, others have problems being accepted by any major exchanges. UTRUST is not about the ICO (yet, it is a vital part!). We are establishing a legal framework that will set out the base for a bright future and years to come.

Our entire team believes firmly in what we are building now and these goals can only be achieved if you do it the right way from the ground up.

Yes, this indeed puts some hurdles into our way in regards to excluding some investors, but in the end we want to be here for the next generation ("Web 3.0") which, in our opinion, is build with blockchain technology! 👏

PayPal's original vision was to replace paper money.

We're definitely onto something big. The need PayPal answers is monumental. Everyone in the world needs money – to get paid, to trade, to live. Paper money is an ancient technology and an inconvenient means of payment. You can run out of it. It wears out. It can get lost or stolen. In the twenty-first century, people need a form of money that's more convenient and secure, something that can be accessed from anywhere with a PDA or an Internet connection. Of course, what we're calling 'convenient' for American users will be revolutionary for the developing world. Many of these countries' governments play fast and loose with their currencies. They use inflation and sometimes wholesale currency devaluations, like we saw in Russia and several Southeast Asian countries last year [referring to the 1998 Russian and 1997 Asian financial crisis], to take wealth away from their citizens. Most of the ordinary people there never have an opportunity to open an offshore account or to get their hands on more than a few bills of a stable currency like U.S. dollars. Eventually PayPal will be able to change this. In the future, when we make our service available outside the U.S. and as Internet penetration continues to expand to all economic tiers of people, PayPal will give citizens worldwide more direct control over their currencies than they ever had before. It will be nearly impossible for corrupt governments to steal wealth from their people through their old means because if they try the people will switch to dollars or Pounds or Yen, in effect dumping the worthless local currency for something more secure.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Thiel#PayPal

Now PayPal has banking licenses necessary to process fiat. Both PayPal and their users are not allowed to touch cryptocurrencies.

According to the PayPal Acceptable Use Policy updated on July 1, 2015, using bitcoin to transfer or “top-up” Paypal is “illegal,” as it violates one of the terms of the official policy:

“You may not use the PayPal service for activities that relate to transactions that involve currency exchanges or check cashing businesses”

How can you ensure that the same will not happen to UTrust?

Damn. Paypal really is full of sht. If they said this, it would be really stupid. I think they have not heard the phrase "word of honor".
These guys do not deserve the trust given to them by people.

Now that you've mentioned it, i am starting to wonder already. This is pretty scary. Because if utrust does the same, it will really be bad for the crypto currencies. People will think utrust abandoned cryptos because they are not legitimate or just useless.

Imho speculation that utrust would do this is pretty far fetched, it's based on blockchain technology and got nearly all it's funding from heavy crypto users, that is going to be their userbase in the near future too. If they would lose the crypto payments, they would lose the whole edge on competition. That would be same as giving up, and wouldn't make any sense. So i highly doubt that they'll take the paypal route

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well, the dump of the bounty hunters will surely drop the price after the ico for sure. but if the bounty hunters tokens are locked for lets say 1-2 months, a dump would not affect the price very much.

pasmas

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Good team. Read the whitepaper. It promisises alot but in the market sentiment I think it is better to wait for the exchanges for better price. I went all in Lendoit

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Quote from: Frieda on November 06, 2017, 04:31:03 AM

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Yes Utrust already announce a partnership with an exchanges, its pretty good, we will be able to trade token right after the ico. And i think that kucoin is a good exchanges, a nice hype on it, and Utrust has a pretty huge hype too.

I expect reputed projects like utrust to maintain a level and take time and efforts to decide about exchanges they want to list. They should avoid low volume and new exchanges at any cost .

Rather than that, we have a new trend these days to lock the bounty token for a certain period of time so that they cannot dump them for cents. I think that will be better rather than holding off an exchange.

Such a strategy can be contra productive maybe, at least in my eyes. The dump will just be at a later time of the game probably, with somebad luck in an current good phase with potential to get normally a raise in value.

If an ICO needs to lock bounty tokens because they are scared the influence the price with dumping, THEY GAVE AWAY TOO MANY BOUNTY TOKENS.

i don't worry about price dump by bounty hunter, don't you see there is many hunters, not every hunter will dump their tokens when hit exchange.

Even if every hunter would drop the coins, after everyone has dumped the price will go up again for the real demands and will reach a normal level again.

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Quote from: Piggy on November 06, 2017, 04:51:37 AM

indeed the dumping is not solely done from bounty hunters, but mainly from who bought at discount and want to make some fast cash

Mostly it happened from the people who bought this token during pre-ICO at very cheap they try to make fast exit from any project so they do that job. But I hope this project has very large community till now it moving with nice momentum so people would like to hold this for long term.

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Quote from: Yasemin on November 06, 2017, 04:08:41 AM

You could see that Utrust was everywhere. I think the budget for the bounty campaign was big, but I think it was their goal to reach as many people as they could and you can see that their ICO is a succes now.

Yes, the marketing of UTrust is great and it shows how important good advertisement can be. In a time when a lot of ICOs are struggling to get funded, UTrust is doing really good.

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indeed the dumping is not solely done from bounty hunters, but mainly from who bought at discount and want to make some fast cash

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Quote from: Mystic90 on November 06, 2017, 03:18:15 AM

Quote from: cantdecide on November 06, 2017, 02:52:57 AM

Quote from: ubercool on November 06, 2017, 12:58:43 AM

Quote from: pynetx on November 05, 2017, 11:55:22 PM

Quote from: Trrrt on November 05, 2017, 04:15:20 PM

Yes Utrust already announce a partnership with an exchanges, its pretty good, we will be able to trade token right after the ico. And i think that kucoin is a good exchanges, a nice hype on it, and Utrust has a pretty huge hype too.

I expect reputed projects like utrust to maintain a level and take time and efforts to decide about exchanges they want to list. They should avoid low volume and new exchanges at any cost .

Rather than that, we have a new trend these days to lock the bounty token for a certain period of time so that they cannot dump them for cents. I think that will be better rather than holding off an exchange.

Such a strategy can be contra productive maybe, at least in my eyes. The dump will just be at a later time of the game probably, with somebad luck in an current good phase with potential to get normally a raise in value.

If an ICO needs to lock bounty tokens because they are scared the influence the price with dumping, THEY GAVE AWAY TOO MANY BOUNTY TOKENS.

i don't worry about price dump by bounty hunter, don't you see there is many hunters, not every hunter will dump their tokens when hit exchange.

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Quote from: toolucky98 on November 06, 2017, 03:50:09 AM

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I expend the token to drop in price at first, due to bounty hunters dumping these. there might be great profit in holding

Yeah, that's always possible. We don't know how bounty hunters act.
Maybe they won't sell if price increases at launch, who knows?

I think the bounty hunters will be also aware of the value of this token. I think we will not see big dumps from them because they know that value will increase.

If they see potential in the market then they will not dump the coins because Utrust is having lot community where they find potential in Utrust project. Few people will sell the coin on the market and they will leave the coin.

Actually, the bounty hunters will only have about 5% of the total token supply.
If the token's price is drop more than 5% , then its not only because of bounty hunters.
The thing is you wont prevent the dump if youre only thinking about bounty hunters.

Bounty hunters effect after ico is always overrated. The problem is investors panicking and selling when they see a little drop because of bounty sellers.

I saw projects hit the hard cap with only %2 bounties, dropped %25 one day after ico.

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