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Quote from: mike0182 on October 20, 2017, 01:50:35 PM

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Quote from: rendy_btc on October 20, 2017, 05:12:26 AM

243 pages on ico? This is what I call Hype:) Lets see how it goes!

just wait until the tokens go moon after the ico.... thats what i will call hype then

Do you have a crystal ball Grin

? Joking apart, in my humble opinion, it will moon when first merchant will add Utrust's API, I see no reason to moon before, until first use case it's going to be a speculative token and nothng else

Now a lot of projects are stalling from the start (Look at the Request and AirSwap), I do not know with what it may be connected, perhaps with a hardfork bitcoin. I hope the Utrust will not be one of them.

I see many ICO's tokens these days going down because the whole alt market is going down. I believe that if you invest in an ICO because you trust it, there's no reason to sell your tokens at loss after few weeks though.

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Quote from: Yasemin on October 20, 2017, 11:29:53 AM

I read on the website of Utrust that they dont accept fiat currency if you want to participate in the ICO. Maybe this is a stupid question, but why do they only accept ETH and BTC? I mean if Utrust wants to be the future of online payment, should they not accept also fiat currency?

There is probably a legal reason for that, ie. to prevent the tokens from becoming securities. If tokens are securities you enter regulation hell.

Companies mostly use cryptocurrencies out of an abundance of caution. When you’re using fiat currency, you start touching the margins of banking and money transmitter regulations, and using cryptocurrencies keeps you clear of them. It’s also the case that a lot of your audience – right now, at least – is part of the cryptocurrency world anyway. These are people who have [digital] wallets. It’s not hard for them.

According to the Howey test, an instrument is only a security if it involves an investment of money or other tangible or definable consideration used in a common enterprise with a reasonable expectation of profits to be derived primarily from the entrepreneurial or managerial efforts of others.

If they do, then those transactions are considered securities and are subject to certain disclosure and registration requirements. When tokens are structured basically as the sale of a service or product, they’re designed to make sure the various prongs of the test are not triggered.

FIEX

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Quote from: mike0182 on October 20, 2017, 01:50:35 PM

Quote from: kraterion on October 20, 2017, 01:03:20 PM

Quote from: alphashotgun on October 20, 2017, 08:13:14 AM

Quote from: rendy_btc on October 20, 2017, 05:12:26 AM

243 pages on ico? This is what I call Hype:) Lets see how it goes!

just wait until the tokens go moon after the ico.... thats what i will call hype then

Do you have a crystal ball Grin

? Joking apart, in my humble opinion, it will moon when first merchant will add Utrust's API, I see no reason to moon before, until first use case it's going to be a speculative token and nothng else

Now a lot of projects are stalling from the start (Look at the Request and AirSwap), I do not know with what it may be connected, perhaps with a hardfork bitcoin. I hope the Utrust will not be one of them.

This is just not a great time for an ICO to start or a pre-sale.
Wait until November and everything will be back to normal! Glad UTRUST will wait until everything around the forks are done. Then this ICO will go great.

It will take some time before this will go moon

, just hold until the end of next year! Thats my plan Wink

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Quote from: kraterion on October 20, 2017, 01:03:20 PM

Quote from: alphashotgun on October 20, 2017, 08:13:14 AM

Quote from: rendy_btc on October 20, 2017, 05:12:26 AM

243 pages on ico? This is what I call Hype:) Lets see how it goes!

just wait until the tokens go moon after the ico.... thats what i will call hype then

Do you have a crystal ball Grin

? Joking apart, in my humble opinion, it will moon when first merchant will add Utrust's API, I see no reason to moon before, until first use case it's going to be a speculative token and nothng else

Now a lot of projects are stalling from the start (Look at the Request and AirSwap), I do not know with what it may be connected, perhaps with a hardfork bitcoin. I hope the Utrust will not be one of them.

FIEX

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Quote from: Sozialtourist on October 20, 2017, 01:10:48 PM

Quote from: batako on October 20, 2017, 01:02:52 PM

Quote from: Yasemin on October 20, 2017, 11:29:53 AM

I read on the website of Utrust that they dont accept fiat currency if you want to participate in the ICO. Maybe this is a stupid question, but why do they only accept ETH and BTC? I mean if Utrust wants to be the future of online payment, should they not accept also fiat currency?

Maybe if there are a big demand to use fiat, utrust will consider it as I see at other projects. Btw, having many choices would be better.

We should better be happy that they also offer to participate with BTC. A lot of ICOs only accept ETH.

I also think ETH and BTC is enough for this ICO.
Why use other? These are the most famous one and easiest to get. Dont think they will do fiat, to complex.

Cant wait to see this ICO go.
Great work you guys are doing!

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Quote from: magisterr on October 20, 2017, 12:43:56 PM

Quote from: Yasemin on October 20, 2017, 11:29:53 AM

I read on the website of Utrust that they dont accept fiat currency if you want to participate in the ICO. Maybe this is a stupid question, but why do they only accept ETH and BTC? I mean if Utrust wants to be the future of online payment, should they not accept also fiat currency?

Im agree. It will be better to accept fiat as payment as well. It give us fix profit in usd...

Mmmm, this is not a mainstream public auction or something, normal people who are not in the community won't be investing in utrust, so if there are some people that would like to use fiat, the amount will be so small that it won't be worth the resources that will be spent in it, besides it would be expensive to do so, they will have to use a fiat service like paypal, u others to accept the fiat money, it is cheaper and easier to use cryptos in general.

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Quote from: Sozialtourist on October 20, 2017, 01:10:48 PM

Quote from: batako on October 20, 2017, 01:02:52 PM

Quote from: Yasemin on October 20, 2017, 11:29:53 AM

I read on the website of Utrust that they dont accept fiat currency if you want to participate in the ICO. Maybe this is a stupid question, but why do they only accept ETH and BTC? I mean if Utrust wants to be the future of online payment, should they not accept also fiat currency?

Maybe if there are a big demand to use fiat, utrust will consider it as I see at other projects. Btw, having many choices would be better.

We should better be happy that they also offer to participate with BTC. A lot of ICOs only accept ETH.

That's right, and after all, UTRUST is a payment platform focused on cryptocurrencies

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Quote from: batako on October 20, 2017, 01:02:52 PM

Quote from: Yasemin on October 20, 2017, 11:29:53 AM

I read on the website of Utrust that they dont accept fiat currency if you want to participate in the ICO. Maybe this is a stupid question, but why do they only accept ETH and BTC? I mean if Utrust wants to be the future of online payment, should they not accept also fiat currency?

Maybe if there are a big demand to use fiat, utrust will consider it as I see at other projects. Btw, having many choices would be better.

We should better be happy that they also offer to participate with BTC. A lot of ICOs only accept ETH.

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Quote from: alphashotgun on October 20, 2017, 08:13:14 AM

Quote from: rendy_btc on October 20, 2017, 05:12:26 AM

243 pages on ico? This is what I call Hype:) Lets see how it goes!

just wait until the tokens go moon after the ico.... thats what i will call hype then

Do you have a crystal ball Grin

? Joking apart, in my humble opinion, it will moon when first merchant will add Utrust's API, I see no reason to moon before, until first use case it's going to be a speculative token and nothng else

batako

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Quote from: Yasemin on October 20, 2017, 11:29:53 AM

I read on the website of Utrust that they dont accept fiat currency if you want to participate in the ICO. Maybe this is a stupid question, but why do they only accept ETH and BTC? I mean if Utrust wants to be the future of online payment, should they not accept also fiat currency?

Maybe if there are a big demand to use fiat, utrust will consider it as I see at other projects. Btw, having many choices would be better.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wNc_1PW60A

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J92W_0UpH-0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9jbmVmczXI&t=41s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGAaaV-aVGs&t=75s

To those who needed, follow links to videos explaining the concept and application of Utrust, really exciting the involvement of the Team and domain of the concept, congratulations

magisterr

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Quote from: Yasemin on October 20, 2017, 11:29:53 AM

I read on the website of Utrust that they dont accept fiat currency if you want to participate in the ICO. Maybe this is a stupid question, but why do they only accept ETH and BTC? I mean if Utrust wants to be the future of online payment, should they not accept also fiat currency?

Im agree. It will be better to accept fiat as payment as well. It give us fix profit in usd...

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Quote from: levyashin on October 20, 2017, 09:15:19 AM

Quote from: Mystic90 on October 20, 2017, 09:02:47 AM

Quote from: Sozialtourist on October 20, 2017, 05:35:30 AM

Quote from: rendy_btc on October 20, 2017, 05:12:26 AM

243 pages on ico? This is what I call Hype:) Lets see how it goes!

All this activity has also to do with the ICO being postponed to November. Now everyone is wishfully waiting for ICO to start and meanwhile keeps the hype up here in this thread.

There is so much activity in the uTrust thread, my bitcointalk keeps freezing. Seems to happen when i visit this thread the most, you guys have similar issues?

Actually, it is not because of utrust or only on the utrust thread. The whole website having some server issues I guess. Lots of errors and refreshes for me.

It's because of upcoming bitcoin fork. Many people want to check the latest info about it. Should be normalized in 5 days.

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Quote from: kraterion on October 19, 2017, 01:12:35 PM

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After the fork it will be a good time for ico, people will invest more in altcoin and ico, and Utrust has a great hype these day, and the project deserve it with that kind of potential it’s normal that people want to enter in the project. I’m impatient to start to use the Utrust paltform.

ICO market is dead. None of the last 20 ICO is trading above buy price except Kyber which is also now going back to ICO price. I will eat my dick on national television if UTrust stays above ICO price...Investing in ICO and hoping for profit before atleast 4 months is thing of the past.

A problem perhaps related to large dumps and exaggerated campaigns, I am following many well structured projects and with good controlled campaigns and I do not see unrestrained fall in them, even with sales for as of btc in the last days, Utrust is one of those projects that analyzes the variables and prepare for what many have not prepared, this is one of the differentials and I believe in the success of Utrust and his Team, I hope to be together

The problem I see with the recent ICO dumps is the fact that some pre-ico investors have huge bonusses/discounts and then start dumping immediately when it hits an exchange.
I think there should be a clause which limits the number of tokens you can sell as a pre-ico (big bonus) investor.
Shouldn't be 2 difficult to be able to to write this in a smart contract.

To restrict these tokens that were distributed during the pre-sale with a huge bonus from being traded could be a solution. But I guess it would only delay the dump because these kind of investors tend to sell their share as soon as they can with some profit and then move to the next project. They are not really interesting in waiting and holding them for the long term.

That's it. But maybe some kind of token drop would help. That is - on every Monday a 5% of the tokens will be released to holders, so it will take up to 20 weeks to get all your investment back.

You really want to join an ICO where you get your tokens after 20 weeks? Really? Sorry but I don't like your idea, as investor I want my tokens like ASAP to be able to control them

20 weeks is too long for the investors before their token back, I think that's not a good idea. Usually, after the ico their investment after one week end is little by little being sent back to them with their profit. That 's what I know about it. Probably, in utrust for sure there will not going to face a problem like that, I think.

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Quote from: Mystic90 on October 20, 2017, 09:02:47 AM

Quote from: Sozialtourist on October 20, 2017, 05:35:30 AM

Quote from: rendy_btc on October 20, 2017, 05:12:26 AM

243 pages on ico? This is what I call Hype:) Lets see how it goes!

All this activity has also to do with the ICO being postponed to November. Now everyone is wishfully waiting for ICO to start and meanwhile keeps the hype up here in this thread.

There is so much activity in the uTrust thread, my bitcointalk keeps freezing. Seems to happen when i visit this thread the most, you guys have similar issues?

The entire forum is having issues, not just this thread.

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I read on the website of Utrust that they dont accept fiat currency if you want to participate in the ICO. Maybe this is a stupid question, but why do they only accept ETH and BTC? I mean if Utrust wants to be the future of online payment, should they not accept also fiat currency?

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Quote from: alphashotgun on October 20, 2017, 08:13:14 AM

Quote from: rendy_btc on October 20, 2017, 05:12:26 AM

243 pages on ico? This is what I call Hype:) Lets see how it goes!

just wait until the tokens go moon after the ico.... thats what i will call hype then

there is already a hype and the tokens will surely mooning after the ico. when the bountyhunters have dumped their coins, than even more

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Quote from: Mystic90 on October 20, 2017, 09:02:47 AM

Quote from: Sozialtourist on October 20, 2017, 05:35:30 AM

Quote from: rendy_btc on October 20, 2017, 05:12:26 AM

243 pages on ico? This is what I call Hype:) Lets see how it goes!

All this activity has also to do with the ICO being postponed to November. Now everyone is wishfully waiting for ICO to start and meanwhile keeps the hype up here in this thread.

There is so much activity in the uTrust thread, my bitcointalk keeps freezing. Seems to happen when i visit this thread the most, you guys have similar issues?

No, this is not only in this thread, it entire site is slow, I can't watch anything normal for half a day already!

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Quote from: Mystic90 on October 20, 2017, 09:02:47 AM

Quote from: Sozialtourist on October 20, 2017, 05:35:30 AM

Quote from: rendy_btc on October 20, 2017, 05:12:26 AM

243 pages on ico? This is what I call Hype:) Lets see how it goes!

All this activity has also to do with the ICO being postponed to November. Now everyone is wishfully waiting for ICO to start and meanwhile keeps the hype up here in this thread.

There is so much activity in the uTrust thread, my bitcointalk keeps freezing. Seems to happen when i visit this thread the most, you guys have similar issues?

Actually, it is not because of utrust or only on the utrust thread. The whole website having some server issues I guess. Lots of errors and refreshes for me.

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Quote from: Sozialtourist on October 20, 2017, 05:35:30 AM

Quote from: rendy_btc on October 20, 2017, 05:12:26 AM

243 pages on ico? This is what I call Hype:) Lets see how it goes!

All this activity has also to do with the ICO being postponed to November. Now everyone is wishfully waiting for ICO to start and meanwhile keeps the hype up here in this thread.

There is so much activity in the uTrust thread, my bitcointalk keeps freezing. Seems to happen when i visit this thread the most, you guys have similar issues?

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