Topic: [V2] Big List of Crypto Debit Cards - page 7. (Read 5157 times)

Yeah that sounds reasonable and not much different than what I was doing with Binance card.


The only reason I was using Binance card for a couple of years was because I already had KYC done so why not, and it was very easy to reach 2% cashback (iirc you had to have 1 BNB) which  covered all the fees. For a certain period of time (last bull run) it was my main card and I barely had any issues with it but not willing to go through KYC hassle again, especially since I have a secure option for converting bitcoin to cash.

The discussion made no sense in the first place so I don't know why you've kept it when he deleted his part.
People that would visit the topic later on would be interested in the cards not some discussion between users they might not even remember or know.


That's what I did after the Wirex and Binance experience.
It's simply not worth it to have those cards as main cards, if you want to spend crypto just exchange and do a SEPA and that's it, if it comes to wirex it's even cheaper  with a bank transfer than their fees , plus with a national bank you at least get a bit of support good luck contacting their customer support departments.
I forgot to bump the wirex topic with that but when the cards went down I opened a ticket why they are not working, I got the reply for it and the ticket closed 2 months later, of course the same we're working on it.

Also, since somebody asked about Wirex a few pages ago, I can confirm that the old physical cards work now normally, so the ones issued a year ago, both for PoS transactions an ATMs, but really be careful if trying to withdraw money with it outside the eurozone, my friend went to an ING ATM and was asked for two methods of exchange, some forex rate and some interval bank or something, the forex option was coming with nearly 10% mark-up from euros to local currency.
Don't know if it's the bank or the card but just a heads up!


If those are issued in the US then that answers it, US cards are always finding a way to be a pain in the ass to use in Europe.

You need to update again and check all the links manually.
Two cards from this list are not available anymore, that is Blockcard and Spend, but maybe there are more of them that needs to be removed.

I think it's fine to do that.

Long overdue update done.

Do you guys think I should erase my squabbling with Symmetrick from post #5 and make them reserved posts instead?

As you know, he deleted all his posts in this thread so it currently looks like a monologue. They are quite meaningless now.

This only touches my posts. Nobody else's posts get removed. (This thread is not self-moderated anyway.)

Don't compare all cards only by fees.
You can't find any other 3ds card in the world without kyc, so fees can't be the same like without 3ds, and they have other cards with lower fees.

Some cards are allowing withdrawals and top ups, so do your research better, but I don't care about leftovers unless they are sats.

I think stealths cards are issued in United States, but you should better ask them how they are doing it.
From their website 3ds card:
I would not put a lot of money there, but few hundred dollars is acceptable risk for me, for someone else this amount could be lower or higher.
If I need to buy something I send coins, I create a card and spend everything on purchase, so I dont keep money on cards.

Then again, who dares to put bigger amount in one of those no KYC cards? Catch 22 if you ask me.

At this moment I just gave up on getting my next crypto card and instead I'll just do what I did before I started using Binance Visa and that's cashing out crypto p2p irl and putting money on my bank card, while those things that I want to pay anonymously usually have crypto payment options anyway. Still keeping an eye if something interesting shows up.

Yes, since 2021 it has become mandatory for card issuing companies in the EU and United Kingdom to have the 3DS security system.
If this service is eventually not available, the card (allegedly) cannot be used for online purchases.

Therefore, EU users should always look for cards that have the 3DS.

Aren't all cards issued by a company in the EU required to have 3DS as part of PSD2 in the EU?
I remember that 2021 was the end of the delay will it became mandatory.


I can't believe I spent 5 minutes looking at this:

used the calculator, started from 250 then from 282.96 to see how they managed to get 2.5% to be 10% till I realized that the final price is in $ not euros.

Anyhow, quite curios on this, do those card work with ATMs? I might carry one with a few hundred $ with me on a holiday as second emergency fund and dump it after, not to go again through the same thing as in my last vacation. But now way I would go though KYC with some shady company, I would rather just order a second card from a local bank instead.

Their rates are also not the best. It's always 5$ + 2.5%. It only pays off if you use high values.

What I think is the worst thing about prepaid cards is that it is not possible to top up, so there usually always ends up being some money left over, even if it is little.

You can always fork his list and maintain it yourself.
That is what NotATether did with previous list but he didn't updated for months, and I think he works more on other projects.

There are, but they are only virtual, not physical cards.

Or just use IP address from US.
There is one nice alternative for Bitrefill that works in similar way - thebitcoincompany.com.

Bit.store has lower fees for some of their cards, but their support is very poor.
Only cards with 3ds that I know can be found on stealths.net, but do your own research.

thanks for reply,
anyway, can I assume all the cards in the first post can be topped up with crypto?

The list in the first post needs some updating. Jupiter has been defunct for 3 years, crypterium gives 404, paycent appears to be gone, tenx not working as well.

I dont think there is any KYC-free debit card available anymore or at least I havent found one. I think this thread could be expanded to include prepaid cards too. Prepaid cards can be bought without KYC but they dont work always (need to try on different stores to find out which accept them). Bitrefill sells prepaid mastercards for cheapest but the only problem is you need residential USA IP to buy them (the prepaid codes work fine worldwide). The dollar denominated mastercards that Trocador sells are from the same issuer. Trocador euro denominated cards are from different issuer and Ive had best success with them, also a nice 3 years expiry as opposed to 6 months on the mastercard. Only problem is the high fees from trocador.

do they even exist?

I am in the market (again) for a new crypto card.
Watching the initial post list, can some1 explain the difference between the "crypto supported" and "funding method" ?
I mean, can I assume I can fund any of those cards with a supported crypto transfer? If so, why only a very few have "crypto" in the funding methods?
thanks.

But it won't be a crypto card, not much of a card itself actually, they are just generating you a virtual number every time you want to purchase without apple pay..
If you have already a card that you can load with crypto you could just select that and pay directly with it. What is nice in this one (if Apple keeps the feature) is that you could activate and deactivate it whenever you want it, so perfect for paying on shady websites and not care bout recurring payments.
That again, not a crypto card!


Trocador was (and probablyl is) legit for swaps, used it for monero<>bitcoin through their partners, never encountered a thing, never had to contact them even with C ranked exchanges. As for the card itself, to be honest I wouldn't trust a KYC debit card 100% no matter who provides it to you, Visa can always pull the plug on them in an instant.  It will work fine , till it won't! 

Typical BS coming from China  
I wonder how are they planning to find someone who registered without kyc, using random name and email address.
All they can do if cards are used for some fraud or illegal stuff is to freeze account with leftover funds, and prevent access on their platform.
Situation is much different if user makes a full kyc registration with all personal details, or if someone hacks his account and uses cards for some fraud.

I know about this service, but I never used their cards.

Keeping an eye on Apple Cash, which now has a feature to generate virtual debit cards from your Apple devices 

https://9to5mac.com/2024/02/11/apple-cash-virtual-card-number-feature/

You cannot directly load Apple Cash with crypto obviously, but it comes from the credit cards you've linked with Apple Pay.

I found another service that offers prepaid cards:
https://trocador.app/en/prepaidcards/

Did you already know about this service?


Fees are a little high:

That's right! That mentioned value doesn't make any sense.
Suffice to say, if they go to court because of a user, the user could be sued by them. It was enough, because values are totally unrealistic.

The company is licensed in the EU and it operates under EU laws, for a decade we had a directive against unfair terms and conditions, basically you can write whatever you want there if a judge says those are unfair for the customer you can wipe your ass with their T&C.


Exactly, they could have just let the normal procedure there but the give us at least 2 millions $ makes it look like it's being run by either kids or amateurs.