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noobtrader

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Quote from: MichBjukenon on June 30, 2014, 06:16:24 AM

Quote from: noobtrader on June 30, 2014, 06:14:23 AM

Quote from: dragonmike on June 30, 2014, 06:07:07 AM

Quote from: noobtrader on June 30, 2014, 04:46:56 AM

Quote from: rontz on June 30, 2014, 04:43:55 AM

Not sure how correct this is and how asics fit into picture , but:

Looking at multipool.us avg profitability table:

0.00093793    Scrypt (Bitcoin/MH/day)
0.00329214    Scrypt-n (Bitcoin/MH/day)
0.00010385   X11 (Bitcoin/MH/day)

roughly 1MH Scrypt-n should be approx 2MH Scrypt or 10MH X11
so adjusting the numbers:

0.00187586 Scrypt (Bitcoin/MH/day)
0.00329214 Scrypt-n (Bitcoin/MH/day)
0.00103850 X11 (Bitcoin/MH/day)

Seems the scrypt-n dump can last a while as it is still times more profitable :/

i rest my case, thank you for the proof

Proof of what?
The only thing I see is that VTC price goes down AND SO DOES DIFFICULTY.
This means people are mining it LESS, not more.

If VTC price is going down, it's not because of miners dumping. It's either because buyers are drying out or because there's some whales selling.

difficulty down means more coin to mine per day and even at low price it still be mined and dumped... you look at the number and still deny it ?

number of coins mined per day has nothing to do w difficulty....its allways the same..

i did not talk about total number of coin mined... shhhh....
it is obvious that lower difficulty means more coin for mp when they mine vtc, and you still can twist my word....

niceeeeee

dotnetmin

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Quote from: c33b51 on June 30, 2014, 06:01:42 AM

oh my, I bought it at 0.01, what happened

I bought @0.0067

MichBjukenon

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Quote from: lobo13hf on June 30, 2014, 06:23:30 AM

what we need is a multipool one that can mine other altcoins and pay with VTC's that's how other coins have survive,

all the the miners moving to other algos like x11, x13 due to summer e.g. I can't even mine scrypt coins do to the heat my cards get really hot now imaging I I was mining n-scrypt...

http://x11.greenpool.tk/

lobo13hf

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what we need is a multipool one that can mine other altcoins and pay with VTC's that's how other coins have survive,

all the the miners moving to other algos like x11, x13 due to summer e.g. I can't even mine scrypt coins do to the heat my cards get really hot now imaging I I was mining n-scrypt...

MichBjukenon

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Quote from: noobtrader on June 30, 2014, 06:14:23 AM

Quote from: dragonmike on June 30, 2014, 06:07:07 AM

Quote from: noobtrader on June 30, 2014, 04:46:56 AM

Quote from: rontz on June 30, 2014, 04:43:55 AM

Not sure how correct this is and how asics fit into picture , but:

Looking at multipool.us avg profitability table:

0.00093793    Scrypt (Bitcoin/MH/day)
0.00329214    Scrypt-n (Bitcoin/MH/day)
0.00010385   X11 (Bitcoin/MH/day)

roughly 1MH Scrypt-n should be approx 2MH Scrypt or 10MH X11
so adjusting the numbers:

0.00187586 Scrypt (Bitcoin/MH/day)
0.00329214 Scrypt-n (Bitcoin/MH/day)
0.00103850 X11 (Bitcoin/MH/day)

Seems the scrypt-n dump can last a while as it is still times more profitable :/

i rest my case, thank you for the proof

Proof of what?
The only thing I see is that VTC price goes down AND SO DOES DIFFICULTY.
This means people are mining it LESS, not more.

If VTC price is going down, it's not because of miners dumping. It's either because buyers are drying out or because there's some whales selling.

difficulty down means more coin to mine per day and even at low price it still be mined and dumped... you look at the number and still deny it ?

number of coins mined per day has nothing to do w difficulty....its allways the same..

noobtrader

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Quote from: dragonmike on June 30, 2014, 06:07:07 AM

Quote from: noobtrader on June 30, 2014, 04:46:56 AM

Quote from: rontz on June 30, 2014, 04:43:55 AM

Not sure how correct this is and how asics fit into picture , but:

Looking at multipool.us avg profitability table:

0.00093793    Scrypt (Bitcoin/MH/day)
0.00329214    Scrypt-n (Bitcoin/MH/day)
0.00010385   X11 (Bitcoin/MH/day)

roughly 1MH Scrypt-n should be approx 2MH Scrypt or 10MH X11
so adjusting the numbers:

0.00187586 Scrypt (Bitcoin/MH/day)
0.00329214 Scrypt-n (Bitcoin/MH/day)
0.00103850 X11 (Bitcoin/MH/day)

Seems the scrypt-n dump can last a while as it is still times more profitable :/

i rest my case, thank you for the proof

Proof of what?
The only thing I see is that VTC price goes down AND SO DOES DIFFICULTY.
This means people are mining it LESS, not more.

If VTC price is going down, it's not because of miners dumping. It's either because buyers are drying out or because there's some whales selling.

difficulty down means more coin to mine per day and even at low price it still be mined and dumped... you look at the number and still deny it ?

dragonmike

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Quote from: noobtrader on June 30, 2014, 04:46:56 AM

Quote from: rontz on June 30, 2014, 04:43:55 AM

Not sure how correct this is and how asics fit into picture , but:

Looking at multipool.us avg profitability table:

0.00093793    Scrypt (Bitcoin/MH/day)
0.00329214    Scrypt-n (Bitcoin/MH/day)
0.00010385   X11 (Bitcoin/MH/day)

roughly 1MH Scrypt-n should be approx 2MH Scrypt or 10MH X11
so adjusting the numbers:

0.00187586 Scrypt (Bitcoin/MH/day)
0.00329214 Scrypt-n (Bitcoin/MH/day)
0.00103850 X11 (Bitcoin/MH/day)

Seems the scrypt-n dump can last a while as it is still times more profitable :/

i rest my case, thank you for the proof

Proof of what?
The only thing I see is that VTC price goes down AND SO DOES DIFFICULTY.
This means people are mining it LESS, not more.

If VTC price is going down, it's not because of miners dumping. It's either because buyers are drying out or because there's some whales selling.

silencesilence

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Quote from: c33b51 on June 30, 2014, 06:01:42 AM

oh my, I bought it at 0.01, what happened

- market games and panic sell

HOLD !

c33b51

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oh my, I bought it at 0.01, what happened

silencesilence

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Some should make an explanation for First Stealth Address by pictures like this

note - this picture is SAMPLE and doesn't refer to Vertcoin!!!!

info for Stealth Address

http://coin.cubeconnex.com/poollist/

click on tab Stealth Address

Jiggy0001

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I want to point out that karma coin safed itself by switching to x11! Just watch the chart please!

What is happening right now is something that will either kill this coin and split the community or strengthen the whole project to become even stronger.

Right now I can understand everyone who is willing to leave VTC, but just think about the losses you already made, Is it really worth leaving the chance?

silencesilence

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I follow with interest this address ... for 1 mouths he add 180 000 VTC

all balance - 336,000 VTC Shocked

http://bitinfocharts.com/vertcoin/address/Vjf6QRCF1AsaMUeGBpN8ZtN2z2htiGkZXr

silencesilence

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Quote from: sammy007 on June 30, 2014, 05:28:43 AM

Well, guys, good luck. I am failed here.

Good luck to you Grin

It is better market to clear from unbelievers

many people sold their LTC for a few cents
even Charles Lee sold many coins at low prices - for a few cents

and look what happened LTC to $ 50 - 6 months ago Grin

bengx

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Quote from: sammy007 on June 30, 2014, 05:28:43 AM

Well, guys, good luck. I am failed here.

You should wait until Sx is out then see how it goes.

Lucky - Luciano

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Quote from: jk_14 on June 30, 2014, 02:36:41 AM

Quote from: ivanlabrie on June 29, 2014, 10:52:23 PM

Come on guys, it can be simpler...I'd suggest using Yacoin's dynamic block reward and go multi algo as suggested.

multi algo, with X11 asap, as a first phase...

Now we have the situation, when scrypt GPU miners are making a decision: what to do now.

I observe from forum comments, that for most of such decisions - the N-scrypt is unfortunately almost ineliglible in comparision to X11 (i.e. X.. family), due to operational costs and heat. The ratio is maybe less than 10:90...

Such multi algo, but with X11 as interim solution - is like a "back to game"...
And there is no time to waste, when fat scrypt ASICs - are just around the corner.

If not - the only hope is a sudden appearance of big chinese X.. FPGA farms - so, like in a roulette.
(and then - the situation may be reversed: X11 will forced to go multi algo with N-scrypt for example)

It's true. The vast majority of miners went to X (especially X11, because X13 and X15 as consume more electricity).That is why the failed massive adoption vertcoin by litecoin miners. When all litecoin miners pass on coins with X algorithm vertcoin is lapsed.

sammy007

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Well, guys, good luck. I am failed here.

Jiggy0001

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Oh man... Please dear dev... Stop everything that is on your agenda after SX and try to beat those dumps Sad

I can wait for the vertlet wallet or anything else, but if VTC goes below 0.0001 we will be the mazacoin of the "serious coins"

silencesilence

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Quote from: Jiggy0001 on June 30, 2014, 03:52:11 AM

Hey guys... Is someone trying to kill VTC? I mean seriously. Look at this dumps. We are at 0.0005 now!?

someone play with the price, the bots were mad

See here sales order down 4 000 sat
0.00054772   4.96708740   0.00272057
0.00058577   421.77476725   0.24706301

it can be immediately sell price differential of 1 sat
0.00054771   6.78626840   0.00371691
0.00054770   13.32623106   0.00729878

noobtrader

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Quote from: rontz on June 30, 2014, 04:43:55 AM

Not sure how correct this is and how asics fit into picture , but:

Looking at multipool.us avg profitability table:

0.00093793    Scrypt (Bitcoin/MH/day)
0.00329214    Scrypt-n (Bitcoin/MH/day)
0.00010385   X11 (Bitcoin/MH/day)

roughly 1MH Scrypt-n should be approx 2MH Scrypt or 10MH X11
so adjusting the numbers:

0.00187586 Scrypt (Bitcoin/MH/day)
0.00329214 Scrypt-n (Bitcoin/MH/day)
0.00103850 X11 (Bitcoin/MH/day)

Seems the scrypt-n dump can last a while as it is still times more profitable :/

i rest my case, thank you for the proof
btw
i do have an idea to put limit on how much coin mineable by one wallet equal to fix percentage of the coin it hold (10%), if no coin in the wallet, fix it at 1 vtc max.

so if someone want to play dump-dump and mine vtc with 100Mhash, then he need to buy 1000vtc or else he will have to accept just 1 vtc per day.

rontz

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Not sure how correct this is and how asics fit into picture , but:

Looking at multipool.us avg profitability table:

0.00093793    Scrypt (Bitcoin/MH/day)
0.00329214    Scrypt-n (Bitcoin/MH/day)
0.00010385   X11 (Bitcoin/MH/day)

roughly 1MH Scrypt-n should be approx 2MH Scrypt or 10MH X11
so adjusting the numbers:

0.00187586 Scrypt (Bitcoin/2 MH/day)
0.00329214 Scrypt-n (Bitcoin/ 1 MH/day)
0.00103850 X11 (Bitcoin/ 10MH/day)

Seems the scrypt-n dump can last a while as it is still times more profitable :/

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