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Quote from: Lovok on March 27, 2014, 04:53:52 AM

Quote from: jemmyboy on March 27, 2014, 04:22:20 AM

Hi,

I was mining at bitcrush but moved to p2pool.vtcpool.co.uk:9171 a couple of days ago and was happy with what i was earning compared to bitcrush. All was fine for 20+ hours but i then started to get zero payments even though i was hashing around 550-600 kh/s, my address appeared on their website but amount (vtc) is blank.
I then switched over to p2pool.be:9171 after a couple of hours but again the same issue, it would show me mining at a average of 550-600 kh/s but amount is blank. I let this run overnight in the hope that it would start earning but to no avail. So around 18 hours have been wasted trying to mine on a node.
I am currently connected to vtcpool:9171 but after a few hours still the amount is blank.

I have checked my configuration and all is in order so am at a loss as to why i cannot earn any vertcoin...anyone have any ideas what is going on? Huh

worker = VjyW341RrDhtmWDCnEA9bBUX2UosfXDiVc

any help willl be appreciated

Classic problem of p2pool. Because your hashrate is low, at current p2pool size, you have probability of getting share at given khs in about every six hours. And this is average, you can also get nothing half day or two shares in hour. Only when you ganerate share, you get paid by following blocks. For this reason, 2nd p2pool network is being build, to split hashrate and lower share difficulty for miners (at current size of p2pool this is not problem, as even at half/quarter p2pool size, block generation interval will still be sufficient). So, at current time, you can try mining on second p2pool network (http://lovok.no-ip.com:9171 node or another posted here in last messages) or use traditional pool.

But you can use (if the pool supports it) static diff by adding +0.xxx to the end of username/address. I do use use 0.000696 for my 3 x 270x's at the end of my address.
Example:

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If you wish to manually control your pseudo-share difficulty outside of the range provided by the dynamic system you can do the following:
Code:

Vertcoin Address+0.00000116 x Hash Rate in KHash

For example for my R9 270x I use:
Code:

200 x 0.00000116 = 0.000232
VrXbnEbUDoZdGmLFcJXyKV5taEsxkYPKTs+0.000232

The following are suggested targets for various hash rates if you want to grab one quickly:

KHash/s   Difficulty
50   +0.00005821
100   +0.00011641
250   +0.00029103
500   +0.00058207
750   +0.00087310
1000   +0.00116414

So why the p2pool difficulty is a problem? You can adjust your difficulty and send shares at desired frequency. I have tuned my rig and is running sweet, its just the long wait for a share. I earned some income earlier today then for the next 3 hours nada !! and my miners are still hashing away at their optimum but have zero earned
Am I missing something? like what?

It all started so well earning up to 4 coins the other day but the last couple of days i am lucky if i earned 1. Whats the point of trying to promote this coin when you have to wait hours for something only yo find out you have to wait hours for another. I can understand if i am solo mining and then i would expect a long long wait but the reward would be worth it eventually (in hope). But to join a node and suffer the same fate as solo mining without the reward just seems pointless to me...or am i missing something obvious?

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Quote from: usao on March 27, 2014, 12:06:31 PM

Does anyone have a pre-compiled Linux X64 binary for CentOS for cpu mining?
I have several servers I could run on if I could find the software...

I couldn't ever get vertcoind to compile on CentOS. I did however, reimage the server to Ubuntu and it worked like a charm. Might be an option for you.

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Quote from: Xperianz on March 27, 2014, 09:54:02 AM

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I've tried about ten times now and my token is expired every time. Why don't you install a captcha? I've never had this problem before. Are you sure you really want new miners Huh

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Quote from: rapsac on March 26, 2014, 01:47:04 PM

Quote from: nem2k on March 26, 2014, 01:41:43 PM

in terms of the influx of asics now and in the near future, what is the difference between vertcoin and an X11 coin like Hirocoin? I know this is a vertcoin thread, but what is the reason behind supporting vertcoin over hirocoin?

Thats simple: community backing and development.

What about vertcoin vs DRK then. DRK is not a pump and dump and will offer complete anonymity via DarkSend. Not bashing VTC as I am holding some, but I also hold DRK. Just trying to figure out what would be better to invest more in and why. And while we're at it, what about VTC vs UTC. UTC has wicked fast confirmation times compared to the 2.5min of VTC, and also offers asic resistance via scrypt-jane.

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Quote from: Equate on March 27, 2014, 12:08:06 PM

Quote from: dotcoin.info on March 27, 2014, 11:20:58 AM

what is the impact of KnC asic miner on VTC?

Its for scrypt and not for scrypt-n so it has no impact on VTC

AFAIK all the upcoming ASICs are for scrypt including the Titan. VTC should be pretty much unaffected, although the exchanges are based on supply/demand so exchange rates could be affected between VTC and LTC/BTC.

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Quote from: dotcoin.info on March 27, 2014, 11:20:58 AM

what is the impact of KnC asic miner on VTC?

Its for scrypt and not for scrypt-n so it has no impact on VTC

usao

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Does anyone have a pre-compiled Linux X64 binary for CentOS for cpu mining?
I have several servers I could run on if I could find the software...

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"There is a minimum share difficulty that has to be submitted that is pool wide to get onto the p2pool alt chain."

p2pool sharechain works similar to blockchain, there is target time interval, in which sharechain is generated and p2pool adjusts minimal difficulty to achieve this.

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Quote from: mdude77 on March 27, 2014, 11:41:30 AM

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Quote from: Lovok on March 27, 2014, 11:11:20 AM

This only controls pseudo-share difficulty which changes rate at which miner communicate with node to measure it's hashrate.

But when I change my pseudo-difficulty the result is exactly the same as changing worker difficulty in a normal pool. When I set it high I need more time to send a share but the share is at high-diff, and when I lower it I am sending low-diff shares at high frequency. I have tested this for many weeks and it works like this. My payout is the same of course in all cases, it is just my (accepted) share sending time/frequency that varies.

Everything you said there is correct.

In reality controlling the share size doesn't mean much anymore, since p2pool now supports and uses vardiff.

M

So for anyone who worries about high diff just do the trick I mentioned a few posts back and you are fine! You can control your share diff according to your speed. If it doesn't work in your p2pool node just try a different one. It should work on most though

Again... that "trick" only affects the pseudo shares, the ones that really don't mean anything. The only ones that count are the ones > the pool share size, which you can not control.

M

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Quote from: dotcoin.info on March 27, 2014, 11:31:09 AM

Quote from: mdude77 on March 27, 2014, 11:24:10 AM

Quote from: dotcoin.info on March 27, 2014, 11:20:58 AM

what is the impact of KnC asic miner on VTC?

A waste of your bandwidth and power.

To my knowledge KnC miners are SHA256 miners, not scrypt miners.

Even if it was a scrypt miner, VTC is designed to thwart scrypt miners, so it wouldn't work anyhow.

M

In that case coins like VTC EXE or DRK HIC (X11) will gain some popularity.

i am not sure if the assumption fits the scenario.

I believe that's the idea.

M

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Quote from: Lovok on March 27, 2014, 11:11:20 AM

This only controls pseudo-share difficulty which changes rate at which miner communicate with node to measure it's hashrate.

But when I change my pseudo-difficulty the result is exactly the same as changing worker difficulty in a normal pool. When I set it high I need more time to send a share but the share is at high-diff, and when I lower it I am sending low-diff shares at high frequency. I have tested this for many weeks and it works like this. My payout is the same of course in all cases, it is just my (accepted) share sending time/frequency that varies.

Everything you said there is correct.

In reality controlling the share size doesn't mean much anymore, since p2pool now supports and uses vardiff.

M

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Quote from: mdude77 on March 27, 2014, 11:24:10 AM

Quote from: dotcoin.info on March 27, 2014, 11:20:58 AM

what is the impact of KnC asic miner on VTC?

A waste of your bandwidth and power.

To my knowledge KnC miners are SHA256 miners, not scrypt miners.

Even if it was a scrypt miner, VTC is designed to thwart scrypt miners, so it wouldn't work anyhow.

M

In that case coins like VTC EXE or DRK HIC (X11) will gain some popularity.

i am not sure if the assumption fits the scenario.

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Quote from: dotcoin.info on March 27, 2014, 11:20:58 AM

what is the impact of KnC asic miner on VTC?

A waste of your bandwidth and power.

To my knowledge KnC miners are SHA256 miners, not scrypt miners.

Even if it was a scrypt miner, VTC is designed to thwart scrypt miners, so it wouldn't work anyhow.

M

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what is the impact of KnC asic miner on VTC?

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If I'm a p2pool alone will receive the same, as if I was on a lot with us?

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This only controls pseudo-share difficulty which changes rate at which miner communicate with node to measure it's hashrate.

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So why the p2pool difficulty is a problem? You can adjust your difficulty and send shares at desired frequency.
Am I missing something?

There is a minimum share difficulty that has to be submitted that is pool wide to get onto the p2pool alt chain. The options you list above don't affect that. The pool I'm on lists it as 2.15, but that's scrypt speak, which your miner doesn't use.

According to the cgminer readme:

Code:

Q: Why do the scrypt diffs not match with the current difficulty target?
A: The current scrypt block difficulty is expressed in terms of how many
multiples of the BTC difficulty it currently is (eg 28) whereas the shares of
"difficulty 1" are actually 65536 times smaller than the BTC ones. The diff
expressed by cgminer is as multiples of difficulty 1 shares.

So 2.15 is actually 141k. If your miner successfully submits a share to p2pool over that size (and it's not orphaned), then you get a valid share. Anything under that size is ignored.

M

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Quote from: jemmyboy on March 27, 2014, 05:03:23 AM

I can understand if it was a for a few hours, but surely after 20 hours I should have found a share by now?

That does seem pretty high but when randomness is involved sometimes you'll have those super long waits and other times find 2 within a few seconds of each other. I show a few miners of similar speed to you on my nodes right now, and the front end reports about 3-4 hours average time to find a share. That will vary with network difficulty and size of the p2pool network of course.

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