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I think many people either refuse or otherwise fail to admit to themselves that the health of digital currency as a whole is dictated by and will be dictated by (in the long run) by bitcoin. The adoption level is so far in that I've seen bitcoin references in some of the monday night tv shows that come on (like the show "Almost Human") and before any altcoin will ever be successful (and they are ALT coins) we will need to see the overall acceptance and MASS adoption of bitcoin. If the health of digital currency as a whole is actually depicted by the health of Bitcoin, we can then make the obvious conclusion that whatever is considered a downside to bitcoin (when it comes to society accepting bitcoin on a massive scale) will also be considered a downside to any other altcoin that tries to take the scene after bitcoin.

Right now the biggest downside to bitcoins mass adoption is the anonymity, yes the philosophy behind bitcoin is almost anarchistic...but things will have to change a little before bitcoin becomes truly massively adopted. Authorities are already prepared to make some serious regulations and enforcements if bitcoin turns out to be something too easily used by criminals, look at the hearing in New York, the goal organizations like the Bitcoin foundation are to help show that bitcoin is not necessarily something meant for criminals....In other words if an altcoin were to show itself to be BETTER at being used by criminals (like by implementing in it's code some form of function that made it's use even MORE anonymous than bitcoin) there would be some huge issues with adoption. Regardless of how many people want to be anonymous, do you think the world will accept Vertcoin if for example every government in the world came out and announced something like "Don't trust vertcoin, it is truly a currency for criminals, anyone we see dealing vertcoin will be seen as suspicious for criminal activity".

This is what the devs at vertcoin mean by saying governments will not stand by while we sit here and produce a coin ideal for criminal use. The goal here is to create a coin that is a competitor to Bitcoin, not the anti bitcoin...The moment Vertcoin becomes looked at as something bad or something that attracts "bad people", the coin will fail...

As someone who works professionally in a creative industry, I fully understand the need for clear direction.

If you look at the comments on reddit re: the new logo. I can't see any positive professional opinion there.

It seems to me that people who don't have experience in design have made the decision to go ahead with this logo, no offence personally to the designer of that, but this looks like a draft, its not been through a review process by other design professionals.

bought 11 vtc at .0033549btc, set up a sell order at .004.  It should be back up there soon.

sometimes cryptsy just takes a while.  sometimes even up to 24 hours (and very rarely, sometimes longer).  don't worry, you will get your vtc.

I sent 10 VTC to cryptsy three hours ago , it dosnt show in my balance . what's issue ?

Just the market manipulators doing their thing.

They can only hold the coin back before so long though.

I understand where you're coming from here, and Vertcoin certainly isn't going to start getting officious or centralized, but if any project is going to have a direction to it, that requires that some people who work on it make some choices. You can't do everything by consensus, it just doesn't work - too much time gets spent discussing things and not enough action gets taken.

Also re the logo, it's just not possible to create something everyone will like - I personally really like it, but mainly, as someone said a way back in the thread, sometimes you have to keep the engineers away from the bullhorn; the new logo comes from a professional designer with a wealth of experience, so even if I didn't personally like it, I'd probably defer to his greater knowledge and experience - some things are just best left to people who are specialists.

In terms of widespread adoption, the distribution model used by auroracoin will beat current models, IMHO.

I think this is a mistake but it's not my career and money on the line. If anonymity is provided, I think this would clearly differentiate Vtc versus Btc, Ltc and Doge. As the overall adoption of crypto itself is less than 0.02% of population, I don't think one can conclusively say that Vtc adoption will not increase significantly if anonymity is provided.

I think the logo is fine, but if it's not, what do you think the logo should become? Can you make a draft?

Consistent, yes. But not to the point where one "official" person says something is good when its not and everyone else blindly follows.

We should be consistent, though, don't you think?

Never gonna make everyone happy. I think the new logo is quite nice, looks more professional imo.

Of course the logo is only one small part of what makes this coin great

The checkmark logo is nice for marketing and business aspects, but I like the V logo for the community.  I also still think that they're close enough, and that the name is unique enough that people will catch the drift.

On a side note, I've been pimping this all over the Panda forum for the past couple pages. 

I've been here since the beginning, I want vertcoin to succeeded. That being said, I think this "official" logo is bad and will hurt vertcoin.

Lets talk about "official" as well, that word implies a sense of centralisation, the point of cryptos is decentralisation, control is in the hands of the community majority.

That's so clever. 

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/the-big-vtc-vertcoin-settings-thread-416572

Says the mystical potato

Don't be a smartass.