Very brief overview of Merit Source sMerit Increase impact (first few days) - page 2.

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Quote from: DdmrDdmr on July 10, 2021, 02:28:36 AM

I believe that there are a couple of Merit Sources that is above that range, but most are well below. The recently displayed 1K sMerit upgrade may nevertheless be what 10-15 Merits Sources now have (just a guess), and there is a fair share of variance between allowances.

Bear in mind that the 34139 sMerits per 30 days for the 111 Merit Sources averages 308 sMerits per capita. Taking into consideration that 1K is a figure that some now have, nearing the top of the range, there is bound to be a fair share of variance, with many well below that 1K figure, and a fair share below the average too.

Okay, thanks. So looks like the allocation amount differs per user.

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Quote from: UserU on July 09, 2021, 11:59:57 PM

<...>

I believe that there are a couple of Merit Sources that is above that range, but most are well below. The recently displayed 1K sMerit upgrade may nevertheless be what 10-15 Merits Sources now have (just a guess), and there is a fair share of variance between allowances.

Bear in mind that the 34139 sMerits per 30 days for the 111 Merit Sources averages 308 sMerits per capita. Taking into consideration that 1K is a figure that some now have, nearing the top of the range, there is bound to be a fair share of variance, with many well below that 1K figure, and a fair share below the average too.

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So would 1000 sMerits be the new number for Merit Sources every month? Always wondered how many are dropped by default every month.

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Quote from: The Sceptical Chymist on July 09, 2021, 04:02:03 PM

That sounds fantastic to me, since I was fortunate enough to get 1000 sMerits airdropped to me by Theymos. It wasn't quite at the beginning of the month, but I'm going to attempt to give them all away by the start of August. We'll see how that turns out--and I was considering increasing my average number of merits given per post. Right now I usually hand out 2-3, but that's become a habit due to me chronically running short. I think with 1000 sMerits to play with each month, I could probably up that to 4 or 5.

1000 sMerits allocation every month is big.

The merit stat center for Most generous merit senders, all time -- shows you only sent 5873 sMerits.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;stats=topsendat

Now you have about 25% of all what you've sent so far. It's a big increase and challenge for you.

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Quote from: fillippone on July 09, 2021, 06:01:03 AM

Coffe needed, confirmed.

I can suggest an Italian moka?

Doh! Yes, if I could take you up on that particular brew I would. Maybe we'd have a nice crypto discussion over it, too.

Quote from: Quickseller on July 09, 2021, 07:55:02 AM

For those that received an increased sMerit allocation, they also received their entire monthly allowance at the time of the increase. It is possible that some sources had zero or close to zero source sMerit prior to the increase.

That sounds fantastic to me, since I was fortunate enough to get 1000 sMerits airdropped to me by Theymos. It wasn't quite at the beginning of the month, but I'm going to attempt to give them all away by the start of August. We'll see how that turns out--and I was considering increasing my average number of merits given per post. Right now I usually hand out 2-3, but that's become a habit due to me chronically running short. I think with 1000 sMerits to play with each month, I could probably up that to 4 or 5.

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Nicely written, I did miss reading your analysis as I wasn't that frequently on the boards you post them especially meta. I was surprised to get a notification especially as I saw the title of your post. Just to clear the air, I didn't receive any increase as other sources did. I didn't request for one either so I wasn't surprised but that didn't mean I don't get short on them.

Guess I enter your radar as a result of getting some of my monthly refill during last couple of days and also as a result of earning some smerits myself from this post resulting in me been very active with my smerits of recent.

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Quote from: DdmrDdmr on July 09, 2021, 07:44:00 AM

Quote from: kxwhalexk on July 09, 2021, 07:13:47 AM

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That’s because you’re focusing on the wrong data really. This is all about sent sMerits, not received sMerits. As such, you sent 2 last week and none this week before the forum’s merit.txt file was generates (you have sent two afterwards today, in more recent hours).

I'm sorry, I got it wrong. Because I misunderstood the meaning of M, I will have a better understanding of the rules tomorrow. Sorry to have taken up your time

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For those that received an increased sMerit allocation, they also received their entire monthly allowance at the time of the increase. It is possible that some sources had zero or close to zero source sMerit prior to the increase. This means someone who had their sMerit allocation increased to 1000/month, would have received an additional 1000 sMerit to give out immediately

This is somewhat similar to what happened when the merit system was introduced (although on a smaller scale).

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Quote from: kxwhalexk on July 09, 2021, 07:13:47 AM

<...>

That’s because you’re focusing on the wrong data really. This is all about sent sMerits, not received sMerits. As such, you sent 2 last week and none this week before the forum’s merit.txt file was generates (you have sent two afterwards today, in more recent hours).

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user_id       name                      rank           nPriorWeekM    nPriorWeekTx   AvgM/TX PW     nPriorWeekToNewn       ThisWeekM     nThisWeekTx    AvgM/TX        nThisWeekToNew       Increase
3339476	kxwhalexk			Jr. Member	2			2		       1.00                       1                          0                    0            #DIV/0!                  0                    -100,00%

It seems like mine is wrong?

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Quote from: The Sceptical Chymist on July 09, 2021, 05:56:00 AM

and unless my eyes or brain are bugging out (which could be possible; it's early and my coffee hasn't kicked in yet), that's the largest increase out of the entire bunch. If I'm wrong, please correct me.

Coffe needed, confirmed.

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user_id   name                                    rank           nPriorWeekM    nPriorWeekTx   AvgM/TX PW     nPriorWeekToNewnThisWeekM     nThisWeekTx    AvgM/TX        nThisWeekToNew Increase
407174    klarki                                  Legendary      2              2              1              0              301            88             3,42           8              14950,00%

I can suggest an Italian moka?

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Quote from: fillippone on July 09, 2021, 05:47:21 AM

Quote from: The Sceptical Chymist on July 09, 2021, 05:05:02 AM

And look at Ratimov! That's an impressive jump in his generosity.

Mhhh you might have skipped one row?
Ratimov is a very good user, but I see others having increased more on this table!

I was looking at the 14,950% increase stat, and unless my eyes or brain are bugging out (which could be possible; it's early and my coffee hasn't kicked in yet), that's the largest increase out of the entire bunch. If I'm wrong, please correct me.

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Quote from: The Sceptical Chymist on July 09, 2021, 05:05:02 AM

And look at Ratimov! That's an impressive jump in his generosity.

Mhhh you might have skipped one row?
Ratimov is a very good user, but I see others having increased more on this table!

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Quote from: fillippone on July 09, 2021, 04:46:02 AM

Great analysis as usual.

Agree 100%, and I thank DdmrDdmr for the data--I was very curious as to how Theymos's addition of merit sources and his increase of sMerits to existing sources would play out, but I didn't expect any analysis so soon. Happy to see most sources (or at least the ones listed in the OP) have increased their merit distribution. And look at Ratimov! That's an impressive jump in his generosity.

Quote from: DdmrDdmr on July 09, 2021, 03:47:59 AM

sMerit has so far gone up 45,23% with regards to the prior week, increasing the average merit/tx from 1,69 to 2,14, but without yet seeing a significant amount of newly merited profiles (93 so far this week).

That bolded part is kind of surprising to me, but perhaps it shouldn't. The members who tend to earn merits are consistent, and I guess it's less common for someone to receive their first merit, although that probably means there haven't been that many Newbie members being merited this week. Ah well, that'll probably change--and if it doesn't, I don't think it reflects badly on merit sources. Some of us try to merit Newbies whenever we can, but more often than not they just don't make the grade.

Thanks again for the excellent data crunching, DdmrDdmr.

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Quote from: DdmrDdmr on July 09, 2021, 03:47:59 AM

Besides, newly replenished sMerit allowances tend to create an atmosphere of excitement, and that translated to a heavy kick-start.

Great analysis as usual.
You are right to the point when you mention this excitement. As you know, I agree on this, and I think this is the exact reason why you saw me sprinting so quick out of the blocks.

Also agree that monitoring in the long run is the important thing, and your tool of course will be of great help doing so.

Glad you noticed I was also able to help a few newbies. I think this was part of the plan by @theymos.

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First and foremost, the data shown here is mostly anecdotic, since nothing can nor should be derived from just a few days of launching the new Merit Source sMerit allocations and incorporations. Nevertheless, I though it interesting to take a sneak peek at how the first four days have rendered, in comparison to the prior week, simply to satisfy my curiosity, and knowing full well that what matters is the trend after a few months.

Being so, what I’ve done is compare everbody’s merit awarding summarized ratios for last week (28/06/2021 00:00:00 to 04/07/2021 23:59:59 UTC) to this current partial week (05/07/2021 00:00:00 to '09/07/2021 02:51:09 UTC – date of merit.txt release). That makes it a deliberate uneven comparison, as I wanted to see how this week’s newly topped sMerit allocations were being used, and expected the overall current partial week to surpass the prior complete week.

In global terms, the above is as I expected:

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Week Nº	From	          Until	       nMerit	nTx	nFrom	nFromNew % FromNew	nTo	nToNew	% ToNew	Avg. Merit/Tx	Avg. Merit /nTo	nMeritVar
181	05/07/2021	11/07/2021	4.521	2.109	287	7	       2,44%	699	93	13,30%	2,14	        6,47	       45,23%
180	28/06/2021	04/07/2021	3.113	1.847	388	19	       4,90%	633	79	12,48%	1,69	        4,92	      -11,79%

sMerit has so far gone up 45,23% with regards to the prior week, increasing the average merit/tx from 1,69 to 2,14, but without yet seeing a significant amount of newly merited profiles (93 so far this week). This latter information will increase the remaining part of the week, but a global sMerit increase does not necessarily imply a massive broadness of newly people sMerited. In any case, I’d expect that the increase will broaden the range further, as recipients have more to further award other people down the chain.

Note that, as we know, meriting is for the most based on content, so an increase in global available sMerit does not necessarily translate to an increase in new merited profiles.

Top 60 sMerit awarders this partial week:

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user_id   name                                    rank           nPriorWeekM    nPriorWeekTx   AvgM/TX PW     nPriorWeekToNewnThisWeekM     nThisWeekTx    AvgM/TX        nThisWeekToNew Increase
1852120   fillippone                              Legendary      95             46             2,07           0              527            109            4,83           5              454,74%
359716    ETFbitcoin                              Legendary      47             38             1,24           0              382            161            2,37           14             712,77%
407174    klarki                                  Legendary      2              2              1              0              301            88             3,42           8              14950,00%
2627711   Ratimov                                 Hero Member    124            100            1,24           29             203            81             2,51           18             63,71%
1067333   El duderino_                            Legendary      159            56             2,84           1              140            37             3,78           0              -11,95%
33156     vapourminer                             Legendary      36             33             1,09           0              140            74             1,89           4              288,89%
252510    JayJuanGee                              Legendary      67             65             1,03           0              131            117            1,12           0              95,52%
84521     Welsh                                   Legendary      45             15             3              0              120            23             5,22           0              166,67%
1410401   dkbit98                                 Legendary      9              8              1,13           1              113            21             5,38           0              1155,56%
487418    The Pharmacist                          Legendary      59             27             2,19           0              110            39             2,82           3              86,44%
1166480   Julien_Olynpic                          Hero Member    4              4              1              0              101            33             3,06           0              2425,00%
1192397   paxmao                                  Hero Member    40             35             1,14           1              91             61             1,49           2              127,50%
1188543   o_e_l_e_o                               Legendary      54             24             2,25           1              90             26             3,46           1              66,67%
1059082   hugeblack                               Legendary      32             8              4              0              85             15             5,67           1              165,63%
1582324   DdmrDdmr                                Legendary      47             42             1,12           0              79             39             2,03           1              68,09%
382413    xandry                                  Legendary      53             28             1,89           5              73             32             2,28           4              37,74%
379147    pooya87                                 Legendary      13             13             1              0              73             27             2,7            0              461,54%
1554927   bitmover                                Legendary      68             36             1,89           0              72             42             1,71           1              5,88%
867786    HCP                                     Legendary      16             8              2              0              72             22             3,27           5              350,00%
140584    EFS                                     Legendary      24             6              4              0              70             35             2              1              191,67%
257071    NeuroticFish                            Legendary      5              5              1              0              70             30             2,33           0              1300,00%
112493    Pmalek                                  Legendary      9              9              1              0              69             45             1,53           0              666,67%
2775483   BlackHatCoiner                          Sr. Member     10             10             1              0              57             29             1,97           1              470,00%
2739424   NotATether                              Hero Member    18             13             1,38           2              55             30             1,83           3              205,56%
1424178   mole0815                                Legendary      7              7              1              1              53             49             1,08           3              657,14%
459836    LoyceV                                  Legendary      134            43             3,12           2              42             13             3,23           1              -68,66%
379487    LFC_Bitcoin                             Legendary      65             36             1,81           0              40             20             2              0              -38,46%
1980983   Coolcryptovator                         Legendary      16             9              1,78           0              36             9              4              0              125,00%
1634314   shahzadafzal                            Hero Member    6              6              1              0              35             17             2,06           1              483,33%
18321     OgNasty                                 Legendary      26             13             2              2              30             10             3              3              15,38%
4190      marcus_of_augustus                      Legendary      0              0              n.a.           0              30             2              15             0              n.a.
995810    hosseinimr93                            Legendary      14             14             1              0              24             24             1              0              71,43%
2738899   FatFork                                 Hero Member    7              6              1,17           0              24             20             1,2            0              242,86%
153644    tyz                                     Legendary      5              4              1,25           0              24             10             2,4            0              380,00%
358020    Quickseller                             Legendary      8              3              2,67           0              23             8              2,88           0              187,50%
120694    xhomerx10                               Legendary      19             18             1,06           1              21             12             1,75           0              10,53%
1827294   Husna QA                                Legendary      8              8              1              0              21             21             1              0              162,50%
35        theymos                                 Legendary      0              0              n.a.           0              21             8              2,63           0              n.a.
317618    nutildah                                Legendary      53             8              6,63           0              20             9              2,22           0              -62,26%
2143453   1miau                                   Legendary      28             20             1,4            0              20             14             1,43           0              -28,57%
65636     babo                                    Legendary      15             11             1,36           0              20             12             1,67           1              33,33%
557798    TryNinja                                Legendary      2              2              1              0              20             16             1,25           0              900,00%
204821    Buchi-88                                Legendary      10             10             1              1              18             17             1,06           0              80,00%
334898    ranochigo                               Legendary      3              3              1              0              18             7              2,57           0              500,00%
1053119   Halab                                   Legendary      53             21             2,52           1              15             5              3              0              -71,70%
1048813   Captain-Cryptory                        Hero Member    6              6              1              0              15             4              3,75           0              150,00%
2817209   Disruptivas                             Full Member    2              2              1              0              15             14             1,07           0              650,00%
2312909   epidemia                                Sr. Member     0              0              n.a.           0              14             14             1              0              n.a.
198573    Hueristic                               Legendary      17             17             1              0              13             13             1              0              -23,53%
2033515   mikeywith                               Legendary      4              4              1              0              13             9              1,44           0              225,00%
937020    duesoldi                                Legendary      3              2              1,5            0              11             9              1,22           0              266,67%
507856    LeGaulois                               Legendary      1              1              1              0              11             11             1              1              1000,00%
234771    suchmoon                                Legendary      0              0              n.a.           0              11             11             1              0              n.a.
1169179   Rath_                                   Legendary      20             6              3,33           1              10             5              2              0              -50,00%
328251    revelacaogr                             Legendary      7              3              2,33           0              10             4              2,5            0              42,86%
1573369   casperBGD                               Hero Member    4              4              1              0              10             4              2,5            0              150,00%
132621    batesresearch                           Legendary      0              0              n.a.           0              10             1              10             0              n.a.
2779462   ndalliard                               Newbie         0              0              n.a.           0              10             10             1              0              n.a.
1052091   CryptopreneurBrainboss                  Legendary      58             48             1,21           2              9              9              1              0              -84,48%

(You may need to scroll horizontally to see al columns - data ordered by Merits awarded this partial week:nThisWeekM)
Full list: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Wjr8gz-0AyyW5Che8L_kLnGUDlO6MsalQigxA-oS1ec/edit?usp=sharing

I’ve compared the number of awarded sMerits, number of TX and number of newly merited people (never merited before by anyone) for the prior week against the current week, and added an increase ratio to compare this week’s awarded sMerits vs last weeks. I've also included the average sMerit/TX ratio to compare.

For example, @fillippone has increased his distribution over 4,5 fold, more than doubled his sMerit TXs, and reached out to 5 profiles never merited before by anybody. His average sMerit/TX has more than doubled.
I’ve increased my awarding habits by 68%, but made less TXs so far, nearly doubling my sMerit/TX ratio.

We could create a bunch more ratios, but as I mentioned, this is just to get a brief idea of what is going on, so I won’t go into it. Besides, newly replenished sMerit allowances tend to create an atmosphere of excitement, and that translated to a heavy kick-start. The important thing to monitor is how it translates over time, which is easier to follow on the Merit Dashboard in tabs such as this one:
https://public.tableau.com/views/BitcointalkMeritDashboard/MeritSendersReceivers?:language=es-ES&:display_count=n&:origin=viz_share_link

Topic: Very brief overview of Merit Source sMerit Increase impact (first few days) - page 2. (Read 620 times)