Very brief overview of Merit Source sMerit Increase impact (first few days) - page 2.

UserU

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Quote from: DdmrDdmr on July 10, 2021, 03:28:36 AM

I believe that there are a couple of Merit Sources that is above that range, but most are well below. The recently displayed 1K sMerit upgrade may nevertheless be what 10-15 Merits Sources now have (just a guess), and there is a fair share of variance between allowances.

Bear in mind that the 34139 sMerits per 30 days for the 111 Merit Sources averages 308 sMerits per capita. Taking into consideration that 1K is a figure that some now have, nearing the top of the range, there is bound to be a fair share of variance, with many well below that 1K figure, and a fair share below the average too.

Okay, thanks. So looks like the allocation amount differs per user.

DdmrDdmr

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Quote from: UserU on July 10, 2021, 12:59:57 AM

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I believe that there are a couple of Merit Sources that is above that range, but most are well below. The recently displayed 1K sMerit upgrade may nevertheless be what 10-15 Merits Sources now have (just a guess), and there is a fair share of variance between allowances.

Bear in mind that the 34139 sMerits per 30 days for the 111 Merit Sources averages 308 sMerits per capita. Taking into consideration that 1K is a figure that some now have, nearing the top of the range, there is bound to be a fair share of variance, with many well below that 1K figure, and a fair share below the average too.

UserU

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So would 1000 sMerits be the new number for Merit Sources every month? Always wondered how many are dropped by default every month.

SquirrelJulietGarden

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Quote from: The Sceptical Chymist on July 09, 2021, 05:02:03 PM

That sounds fantastic to me, since I was fortunate enough to get 1000 sMerits airdropped to me by Theymos. It wasn't quite at the beginning of the month, but I'm going to attempt to give them all away by the start of August. We'll see how that turns out--and I was considering increasing my average number of merits given per post. Right now I usually hand out 2-3, but that's become a habit due to me chronically running short. I think with 1000 sMerits to play with each month, I could probably up that to 4 or 5.

1000 sMerits allocation every month is big.

The merit stat center for Most generous merit senders, all time -- shows you only sent 5873 sMerits.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;stats=topsendat

Now you have about 25% of all what you've sent so far. It's a big increase and challenge for you.

The Sceptical Chymist

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Quote from: fillippone on July 09, 2021, 07:01:03 AM

Coffe needed, confirmed.

I can suggest an Italian moka?

Doh! Yes, if I could take you up on that particular brew I would. Maybe we'd have a nice crypto discussion over it, too.

Quote from: Quickseller on July 09, 2021, 08:55:02 AM

For those that received an increased sMerit allocation, they also received their entire monthly allowance at the time of the increase. It is possible that some sources had zero or close to zero source sMerit prior to the increase.

That sounds fantastic to me, since I was fortunate enough to get 1000 sMerits airdropped to me by Theymos. It wasn't quite at the beginning of the month, but I'm going to attempt to give them all away by the start of August. We'll see how that turns out--and I was considering increasing my average number of merits given per post. Right now I usually hand out 2-3, but that's become a habit due to me chronically running short. I think with 1000 sMerits to play with each month, I could probably up that to 4 or 5.

CryptopreneurBrainboss

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Nicely written, I did miss reading your analysis as I wasn't that frequently on the boards you post them especially meta. I was surprised to get a notification especially as I saw the title of your post. Just to clear the air, I didn't receive any increase as other sources did. I didn't request for one either so I wasn't surprised but that didn't mean I don't get short on them.

Guess I enter your radar as a result of getting some of my monthly refill during last couple of days and also as a result of earning some smerits myself from this post resulting in me been very active with my smerits of recent.

kxwhalexk

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Quote from: DdmrDdmr on July 09, 2021, 08:44:00 AM

Quote from: kxwhalexk on July 09, 2021, 08:13:47 AM

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That’s because you’re focusing on the wrong data really. This is all about sent sMerits, not received sMerits. As such, you sent 2 last week and none this week before the forum’s merit.txt file was generates (you have sent two afterwards today, in more recent hours).

I'm sorry, I got it wrong. Because I misunderstood the meaning of M, I will have a better understanding of the rules tomorrow. Sorry to have taken up your time

Quickseller

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For those that received an increased sMerit allocation, they also received their entire monthly allowance at the time of the increase. It is possible that some sources had zero or close to zero source sMerit prior to the increase. This means someone who had their sMerit allocation increased to 1000/month, would have received an additional 1000 sMerit to give out immediately

This is somewhat similar to what happened when the merit system was introduced (although on a smaller scale).

DdmrDdmr

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Quote from: kxwhalexk on July 09, 2021, 08:13:47 AM

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That’s because you’re focusing on the wrong data really. This is all about sent sMerits, not received sMerits. As such, you sent 2 last week and none this week before the forum’s merit.txt file was generates (you have sent two afterwards today, in more recent hours).

kxwhalexk

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Code:

user_id name rank nPriorWeekM nPriorWeekTx AvgM/TX PW nPriorWeekToNewn ThisWeekM nThisWeekTx AvgM/TX nThisWeekToNew Increase
3339476 kxwhalexk Jr. Member 2 2 1.00 1 0 0 #DIV/0! 0 -100,00%

It seems like mine is wrong?

fillippone

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Quote from: The Sceptical Chymist on July 09, 2021, 06:56:00 AM

and unless my eyes or brain are bugging out (which could be possible; it's early and my coffee hasn't kicked in yet), that's the largest increase out of the entire bunch. If I'm wrong, please correct me.

Coffe needed, confirmed.

Code:

user_id name rank nPriorWeekM nPriorWeekTx AvgM/TX PW nPriorWeekToNewnThisWeekM nThisWeekTx AvgM/TX nThisWeekToNew Increase
407174 klarki Legendary 2 2 1 0 301 88 3,42 8 14950,00%

I can suggest an Italian moka?

The Sceptical Chymist

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Quote from: fillippone on July 09, 2021, 06:47:21 AM

Quote from: The Sceptical Chymist on July 09, 2021, 06:05:02 AM

And look at Ratimov! That's an impressive jump in his generosity.

Mhhh you might have skipped one row?
Ratimov is a very good user, but I see others having increased more on this table!

I was looking at the 14,950% increase stat, and unless my eyes or brain are bugging out (which could be possible; it's early and my coffee hasn't kicked in yet), that's the largest increase out of the entire bunch. If I'm wrong, please correct me.

fillippone

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Quote from: The Sceptical Chymist on July 09, 2021, 06:05:02 AM

And look at Ratimov! That's an impressive jump in his generosity.

Mhhh you might have skipped one row?
Ratimov is a very good user, but I see others having increased more on this table!

The Sceptical Chymist

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Quote from: fillippone on July 09, 2021, 05:46:02 AM

Great analysis as usual.

Agree 100%, and I thank DdmrDdmr for the data--I was very curious as to how Theymos's addition of merit sources and his increase of sMerits to existing sources would play out, but I didn't expect any analysis so soon. Happy to see most sources (or at least the ones listed in the OP) have increased their merit distribution. And look at Ratimov! That's an impressive jump in his generosity.

Quote from: DdmrDdmr on July 09, 2021, 04:47:59 AM

sMerit has so far gone up 45,23% with regards to the prior week, increasing the average merit/tx from 1,69 to 2,14, but without yet seeing a significant amount of newly merited profiles (93 so far this week).

That bolded part is kind of surprising to me, but perhaps it shouldn't. The members who tend to earn merits are consistent, and I guess it's less common for someone to receive their first merit, although that probably means there haven't been that many Newbie members being merited this week. Ah well, that'll probably change--and if it doesn't, I don't think it reflects badly on merit sources. Some of us try to merit Newbies whenever we can, but more often than not they just don't make the grade.

Thanks again for the excellent data crunching, DdmrDdmr.

fillippone

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Quote from: DdmrDdmr on July 09, 2021, 04:47:59 AM

Besides, newly replenished sMerit allowances tend to create an atmosphere of excitement, and that translated to a heavy kick-start.

Great analysis as usual.
You are right to the point when you mention this excitement. As you know, I agree on this, and I think this is the exact reason why you saw me sprinting so quick out of the blocks.

Also agree that monitoring in the long run is the important thing, and your tool of course will be of great help doing so.

Glad you noticed I was also able to help a few newbies. I think this was part of the plan by @theymos.

DdmrDdmr

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First and foremost, the data shown here is mostly anecdotic, since nothing can nor should be derived from just a few days of launching the new Merit Source sMerit allocations and incorporations. Nevertheless, I though it interesting to take a sneak peek at how the first four days have rendered, in comparison to the prior week, simply to satisfy my curiosity, and knowing full well that what matters is the trend after a few months.

Being so, what I’ve done is compare everbody’s merit awarding summarized ratios for last week (28/06/2021 00:00:00 to 04/07/2021 23:59:59 UTC) to this current partial week (05/07/2021 00:00:00 to '09/07/2021 02:51:09 UTC – date of merit.txt release). That makes it a deliberate uneven comparison, as I wanted to see how this week’s newly topped sMerit allocations were being used, and expected the overall current partial week to surpass the prior complete week.

In global terms, the above is as I expected:

Code:

Week Nº From Until nMerit nTx nFrom nFromNew % FromNew nTo nToNew % ToNew Avg. Merit/Tx Avg. Merit /nTo nMeritVar
181 05/07/2021 11/07/2021 4.521 2.109 287 7 2,44% 699 93 13,30% 2,14 6,47 45,23%
180 28/06/2021 04/07/2021 3.113 1.847 388 19 4,90% 633 79 12,48% 1,69 4,92 -11,79%

sMerit has so far gone up 45,23% with regards to the prior week, increasing the average merit/tx from 1,69 to 2,14, but without yet seeing a significant amount of newly merited profiles (93 so far this week). This latter information will increase the remaining part of the week, but a global sMerit increase does not necessarily imply a massive broadness of newly people sMerited. In any case, I’d expect that the increase will broaden the range further, as recipients have more to further award other people down the chain.

Note that, as we know, meriting is for the most based on content, so an increase in global available sMerit does not necessarily translate to an increase in new merited profiles.

Top 60 sMerit awarders this partial week:

Code:

user_id name rank nPriorWeekM nPriorWeekTx AvgM/TX PW nPriorWeekToNewnThisWeekM nThisWeekTx AvgM/TX nThisWeekToNew Increase
1852120 fillippone Legendary 95 46 2,07 0 527 109 4,83 5 454,74%
359716 ETFbitcoin Legendary 47 38 1,24 0 382 161 2,37 14 712,77%
407174 klarki Legendary 2 2 1 0 301 88 3,42 8 14950,00%
2627711 Ratimov Hero Member 124 100 1,24 29 203 81 2,51 18 63,71%
1067333 El duderino_ Legendary 159 56 2,84 1 140 37 3,78 0 -11,95%
33156 vapourminer Legendary 36 33 1,09 0 140 74 1,89 4 288,89%
252510 JayJuanGee Legendary 67 65 1,03 0 131 117 1,12 0 95,52%
84521 Welsh Legendary 45 15 3 0 120 23 5,22 0 166,67%
1410401 dkbit98 Legendary 9 8 1,13 1 113 21 5,38 0 1155,56%
487418 The Pharmacist Legendary 59 27 2,19 0 110 39 2,82 3 86,44%
1166480 Julien_Olynpic Hero Member 4 4 1 0 101 33 3,06 0 2425,00%
1192397 paxmao Hero Member 40 35 1,14 1 91 61 1,49 2 127,50%
1188543 o_e_l_e_o Legendary 54 24 2,25 1 90 26 3,46 1 66,67%
1059082 hugeblack Legendary 32 8 4 0 85 15 5,67 1 165,63%
1582324 DdmrDdmr Legendary 47 42 1,12 0 79 39 2,03 1 68,09%
382413 xandry Legendary 53 28 1,89 5 73 32 2,28 4 37,74%
379147 pooya87 Legendary 13 13 1 0 73 27 2,7 0 461,54%
1554927 bitmover Legendary 68 36 1,89 0 72 42 1,71 1 5,88%
867786 HCP Legendary 16 8 2 0 72 22 3,27 5 350,00%
140584 EFS Legendary 24 6 4 0 70 35 2 1 191,67%
257071 NeuroticFish Legendary 5 5 1 0 70 30 2,33 0 1300,00%
112493 Pmalek Legendary 9 9 1 0 69 45 1,53 0 666,67%
2775483 BlackHatCoiner Sr. Member 10 10 1 0 57 29 1,97 1 470,00%
2739424 NotATether Hero Member 18 13 1,38 2 55 30 1,83 3 205,56%
1424178 mole0815 Legendary 7 7 1 1 53 49 1,08 3 657,14%
459836 LoyceV Legendary 134 43 3,12 2 42 13 3,23 1 -68,66%
379487 LFC_Bitcoin Legendary 65 36 1,81 0 40 20 2 0 -38,46%
1980983 Coolcryptovator Legendary 16 9 1,78 0 36 9 4 0 125,00%
1634314 shahzadafzal Hero Member 6 6 1 0 35 17 2,06 1 483,33%
18321 OgNasty Legendary 26 13 2 2 30 10 3 3 15,38%
4190 marcus_of_augustus Legendary 0 0 n.a. 0 30 2 15 0 n.a.
995810 hosseinimr93 Legendary 14 14 1 0 24 24 1 0 71,43%
2738899 FatFork Hero Member 7 6 1,17 0 24 20 1,2 0 242,86%
153644 tyz Legendary 5 4 1,25 0 24 10 2,4 0 380,00%
358020 Quickseller Legendary 8 3 2,67 0 23 8 2,88 0 187,50%
120694 xhomerx10 Legendary 19 18 1,06 1 21 12 1,75 0 10,53%
1827294 Husna QA Legendary 8 8 1 0 21 21 1 0 162,50%
35 theymos Legendary 0 0 n.a. 0 21 8 2,63 0 n.a.
317618 nutildah Legendary 53 8 6,63 0 20 9 2,22 0 -62,26%
2143453 1miau Legendary 28 20 1,4 0 20 14 1,43 0 -28,57%
65636 babo Legendary 15 11 1,36 0 20 12 1,67 1 33,33%
557798 TryNinja Legendary 2 2 1 0 20 16 1,25 0 900,00%
204821 Buchi-88 Legendary 10 10 1 1 18 17 1,06 0 80,00%
334898 ranochigo Legendary 3 3 1 0 18 7 2,57 0 500,00%
1053119 Halab Legendary 53 21 2,52 1 15 5 3 0 -71,70%
1048813 Captain-Cryptory Hero Member 6 6 1 0 15 4 3,75 0 150,00%
2817209 Disruptivas Full Member 2 2 1 0 15 14 1,07 0 650,00%
2312909 epidemia Sr. Member 0 0 n.a. 0 14 14 1 0 n.a.
198573 Hueristic Legendary 17 17 1 0 13 13 1 0 -23,53%
2033515 mikeywith Legendary 4 4 1 0 13 9 1,44 0 225,00%
937020 duesoldi Legendary 3 2 1,5 0 11 9 1,22 0 266,67%
507856 LeGaulois Legendary 1 1 1 0 11 11 1 1 1000,00%
234771 suchmoon Legendary 0 0 n.a. 0 11 11 1 0 n.a.
1169179 Rath_ Legendary 20 6 3,33 1 10 5 2 0 -50,00%
328251 revelacaogr Legendary 7 3 2,33 0 10 4 2,5 0 42,86%
1573369 casperBGD Hero Member 4 4 1 0 10 4 2,5 0 150,00%
132621 batesresearch Legendary 0 0 n.a. 0 10 1 10 0 n.a.
2779462 ndalliard Newbie 0 0 n.a. 0 10 10 1 0 n.a.
1052091 CryptopreneurBrainboss Legendary 58 48 1,21 2 9 9 1 0 -84,48%

(You may need to scroll horizontally to see al columns - data ordered by Merits awarded this partial week:nThisWeekM)
Full list: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Wjr8gz-0AyyW5Che8L_kLnGUDlO6MsalQigxA-oS1ec/edit?usp=sharing

I’ve compared the number of awarded sMerits, number of TX and number of newly merited people (never merited before by anyone) for the prior week against the current week, and added an increase ratio to compare this week’s awarded sMerits vs last weeks. I've also included the average sMerit/TX ratio to compare.

For example, @fillippone has increased his distribution over 4,5 fold, more than doubled his sMerit TXs, and reached out to 5 profiles never merited before by anybody. His average sMerit/TX has more than doubled.
I’ve increased my awarding habits by 68%, but made less TXs so far, nearly doubling my sMerit/TX ratio.

We could create a bunch more ratios, but as I mentioned, this is just to get a brief idea of what is going on, so I won’t go into it. Besides, newly replenished sMerit allowances tend to create an atmosphere of excitement, and that translated to a heavy kick-start. The important thing to monitor is how it translates over time, which is easier to follow on the Merit Dashboard in tabs such as this one:
https://public.tableau.com/views/BitcointalkMeritDashboard/MeritSendersReceivers?:language=es-ES&:display_count=n&:origin=viz_share_link

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