Topic: Video Footage Of Cop Executing Dillon Taylor Released (Read 2160 times)

anyone with half a brain knows the difference between "running off" and "walking casually" away still.
It is murder. They are supposedly trained to make those split second decisions and see a weapon. Not just shoot because
the person did what they were told to do.
So if they didn't take their hands out of their pockets than what?

Yeah I read about that woman getting tazered, absolute disgrace. Expect the cop will not get charged, probably get himself a nice fat pension when he retires.

Their operational procedures do need to drastically change, cops are meant to serve the public, not act like some roid-raged Judge Dredd.

Exactly. It's not the use of deadly force per se that is the problem, it's the immediate use of all types of force as the solution to the immediate problem. Tasers aren't the solution, it just reinforces the notion that cops have these instruments to make people do what they want when they order it, and the fact that they're supposed to be nonlethal (which is not always the case) increases the likelihood they'll use them.

Oh say for instance this cop who tasered an elderly woman in the back as she was walking away from him:  http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/01/us/florida-police-tase-woman/index.html?iref=allsearch

NOT A JUSTIFIABLE USE OF FORCE.

Tip of the iceberg dude, police brutality in the US has got way out of hand. Not saying they're all psychopaths but there does seem to be a culture now of shooting first and asking questions later. The militarization of the cops certainly hasn't helped, they're policing the country as if it's a warzone.

The opening of this article is chilling:

After police in Kenosha, Wis., shot my 21-year-old son to death outside his house ten years ago — and then immediately cleared themselves of all wrongdoing — an African-American man approached me and said: “If they can shoot a white boy like a dog, imagine what we’ve been going through."

I'm not anti-cop, but I'm certainly anti-bad cop. There's just no room in our society for those who take lives needlessly and then hide behind their badge and the police union to protect their job or pension.

Remember. Cops answer to their sergeant, who answers to the lieutenant, who answers to the captain, who answers to the police commissioner, who answers to the city council. While the chain of command isn't always the same, the city council is the group that should have made sure that the policing policies that were set in place did not offer a chance to harm anyone.

You have a way more likely chance of being killed by a police officer than you do by any other kind of terrorist. Get after your city council and force them to install training and policies in your police department that protect you rather than harm you. If they won't do this, arm yourself, and demand the removal of the police department.

Consider common law litigation, which doesn't follow police policy or statute law.

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Are you under the impression that cops regularly don't get away with murder? I'd love to see nationwide statistics on what how often police departments rule their own shootings to be justified, but those statistics don't exist because police aren't interested in being overseen by civilians.

Police departments shouldn't be able to investigate their own shootings. Every single one that results in a life taken should be investigated by an impartial, outside source that has no ties to the police department. In Wisconsin, police shootings used to be investigated by the police department that did the killing. In every single case over 129 year period, not one shooting was ruled unjustified. Does that seem likely to you? It sounds to me like police looking out for each other, and not the public they are sworn to protect.

I highly recommend this story about a shooting in Wisconsin that spurred one father's fight to get the law changed so that police departments couldn't investigate their own shootings:  http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2014/08/what-i-did-after-police-killed-my-son-110038.html

tl;dr his son was sitting on a street corner in police custody with his hands cuffed behind his back. A cop shot him in the head twice at point blank range (he pulled the trigger twice because the first shot misfired). The shooting was ruled justified by the same Wisconsin police department that shot him because the officer believed that the handcuffed kid sitting on the curb was trying to get his gun. An outside review determined the officer got his gun holster caught on a car mirror as he walked by it, mistook this for the kid reaching for his gun, and his first instinct was to shoot him in the head twice while he was still seated with his hands cuffed behind his back.

Yeah sorry but that is way to aggressive policing, like you say they could have just hung back.  The suspect wasn't waving a gun around when they initially saw him i dont see why the public should immediately stand to attention 100% of the time the police approach.  

Seems like you play for higher stakes in america.

thats hardly murder, clearly it was not premeditated.  I'm not saying this kid deserved being shot, but he saw the car pull up, and decided to run off.  and anyone with half a brain knows you dont try to do jumpy stupid things like stick your hands down your pants when a cop is trying to talk to you.  its sad, yes, but not murder

I don't think he was playing games. He was walking away with headphones in, unaware of what was happening. Then he turns around and sees a gun in his face.. probably not sure how to react. Then a second later he is dead. Clearly the cop over-reacted and there should be consequences for the cop, otherwise it sends a message that they can get away with murder whenever they want.