[VIDEO] New Animated Bitcoin Video! "Screw Banks" make it viral! - page 3.

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Quote from: mollison on May 09, 2012, 01:03:05 AM

There are definitely good things about the video, but I have big problems with a number of elements.

(1) The "Occupy Wall Street" movement is anti-capitalist

I didn't see anything resembling OWS specifically in there.

Quote from: mollison on May 09, 2012, 01:03:05 AM

I don't like seeing bitcoin associated with anti-Wall Street sentiment.

Might you consider why this particular headline was included in Bitcoin blockchain - Block 0:

Quote from: mollison on May 09, 2012, 01:03:05 AM

(2) The idea of brokers "stealing" from clients is ridiculous. If your broker is stealing from you, you should take them to court and get a new broker.

Speaking of, ... has anyone heard if anyone from MF Global or JP Morgue been charged with a crime yet?

Quote from: mollison on May 09, 2012, 01:03:05 AM

(3) The notion of "screwing" the banks is insulting and juvenile. "We" (the "bitcoin community") are not out to screw anyone.

I interpreted the use of that word as a slang word used in the following referenced from Dictionary.com:

screw off, Slang .
b.) to leave; go away.

- http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/screw?s=t

So, not as in "to cheat" but as in, "stop using them" or "forget them!"

Quote from: mollison on May 09, 2012, 01:03:05 AM

In contrast, I believe that someone could create a video that has a high degree of emotional appeal, while still arguing for bitcoin intelligently.

There was more than $1,500 raised for this project, but I believe even that didn't cover all the costs.

If a crowdfunding effort to do that as you describe, I'ld contribute!

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Quote from: julz on May 09, 2012, 01:25:14 AM

Quote from: mollison on May 09, 2012, 01:03:05 AM

(2) The idea of brokers "stealing" from clients is ridiculous. If your broker is stealing from you, you should take them to court and get a new broker.

I don't know what it's like in other parts of the world - but in Australia about the lowest cost for a trade appears to be around $10
Now that's trivial to most people who are trading - but it's an entry barrier tax on the small player for which I can see little excuse in an age of electronically mediated trades.
Still - I don't really see how Bitcoin is going to help with that in any reasonable timeframe even if it does grow significantly, so I did find it a somewhat strange inclusion in the video.

Guys look into MF Global, that will answer all your questions.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/mf-global-client-theft-estimate-doubled-15-billion

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Quote from: mollison on May 09, 2012, 01:03:05 AM

(2) The idea of brokers "stealing" from clients is ridiculous. If your broker is stealing from you, you should take them to court and get a new broker.

I don't know what it's like in other parts of the world - but in Australia about the lowest cost for a trade appears to be around $10
Now that's trivial to most people who are trading - but it's an entry barrier tax on the small player for which I can see little excuse in an age of electronically mediated trades.
Still - I don't really see how Bitcoin is going to help with that in any reasonable timeframe even if it does grow significantly, so I did find it a somewhat strange inclusion in the video.

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Quote from: eldentyrell on May 09, 2012, 01:12:34 AM

This video is full of win.

I want to donate bitcoins to whoever is responsible for it, in acknowledgement of its awesomeness. I don't want to screw around with creating an account on piratemyfilm.com or "queueing shares" (whatever the heck that means).

Could you please put a donation address somewhere on the screwbanks.net website? Thanks, and rock on!

Thanks man!

The piratemyfilm window is closed. you can donate directly through the red donate link at the site

http://screwbanks.net

which goes to lovebitcoins. just click the 10BTC donate button and you can give whatever you want. if you'd like your name listed as a supporter, enter that before you hit the bitcoin button.

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This video is full of win.

I want to donate bitcoins to whoever is responsible for it, in acknowledgement of its awesomeness. I don't want to screw around with creating an account on piratemyfilm.com or "queueing shares" (whatever the heck that means).

Could you please put a donation address somewhere on the screwbanks.net website? Thanks, and rock on!

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There are definitely good things about the video, but I have big problems with a number of elements.

(1) The "Occupy Wall Street" movement is anti-capitalist, and I don't like seeing bitcoin associated with anti-Wall Street sentiment.

(2) The idea of brokers "stealing" from clients is ridiculous. If your broker is stealing from you, you should take them to court and get a new broker.

(3) The notion of "screwing" the banks is insulting and juvenile. "We" (the "bitcoin community") are not out to screw anyone.

Overall, it's clear to anyone with half a brain that this video was designed purely for the sake of pulling in people who are overly emotional and irrational. That doesn't reflect well on the "bitcoin community."

And frankly, the kind of ignorant people who would fall for this kind of demagoguery are not going to be early adopters, anyway.

In contrast, I believe that someone could create a video that has a high degree of emotional appeal, while still arguing for bitcoin intelligently.

I know there will be a lot of disagreement with what I've said, but that's OK.. just my 2 cents (.004 bitcoins).

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Quote from: jwzguy on May 08, 2012, 06:42:46 PM

Quote from: Sukrim on May 08, 2012, 06:35:15 PM

Bold words from a company that has HIGHER fees than Paypal!

Is Bitpay charging over 2.9% ??

Yes, if you don't use USD... just look at their page.

I'm not sure if anger and frustrations should be the emotions that make you use Bitcoin - but I guess "anything goes" is also a marketing principle, right? Wink

Bit-Pay is less than PayPal at all price points. for sales < $20, substantially less.

https://bit-pay.com/accountingHelp.html

For me, paypal would be charging 37 cents on a $2.50 transaction (a single bumper sticker shipped in the US), bit-pay charges me 2.5 cents. Paypal on small orders is 10x as expensive as bit-pay.

I actually have shipped out orders that cost $1.48, so paypal would be charging about a 20% fee on those orders. Screw paypal.

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I downloaded it , but i can't play it.

What's the file type ? .flv or .swf ?

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I originally had some concerns about the overall tone of the video, but I think in the end it came out great. Especially for a Max Keiser audience. If you haven't checked it out, the page showing the cast of characters is hilarious.

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FYI, the origins of the project:
- https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/screw-banks-use-bitcoins-video-project-listed-on-piratemyfilmcom-52109

And a blog post referring to the bitcoin-based crowdfunding:

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The video started out as a project on Max Keiser (@MaxKeiser)’s Pirate My Film (PMF) (@PirateMyFilm) crowdfunding platform. Pledges at $5 and up were made by the Bitcoin community, and once the project was fully funded, the only way to send funds was with bitcoins.

The project had the goal of $1,500 USD but the project was oversubscribed and and extra 15% of funds were collected from 114 “shareholders”. Though PMF does offer equity-based projects and each $5 contribution is referred to as a share, this particular project was not pitched as a revenue-generating film so there will be no dividends given to contributors, which the site labels as “shareholders”. Screw Banks was the first project on PMF in which Bitcoins were accepted for payment.

- http://www.bitcoinmoney.com/post/22683633233

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Quote from: Sukrim on May 08, 2012, 07:15:50 PM

Quote from: jwzguy on May 08, 2012, 06:42:46 PM

Quote from: Sukrim on May 08, 2012, 06:35:15 PM

Bold words from a company that has HIGHER fees than Paypal!

Is Bitpay charging over 2.9% ??

Yes, if you don't use USD... just look at their page.

I'm not sure if anger and frustrations should be the emotions that make you use Bitcoin - but I guess "anything goes" is also a marketing principle, right? Wink

Bit-Pay is less than PayPal at all price points. for sales < $20, substantially less.

https://bit-pay.com/accountingHelp.html

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Quote from: jwzguy on May 08, 2012, 06:42:46 PM

Quote from: Sukrim on May 08, 2012, 06:35:15 PM

Bold words from a company that has HIGHER fees than Paypal!

Is Bitpay charging over 2.9% ??

Yes, if you don't use USD... just look at their page.

I'm not sure if anger and frustrations should be the emotions that make you use Bitcoin - but I guess "anything goes" is also a marketing principle, right? Wink

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Quote from: terrytibbs on May 08, 2012, 06:46:47 PM

Quote from: Gavin Andresen on May 08, 2012, 06:45:26 PM

effective marketing appeals to emotion, not intellect.

Surprisingly true, sir.

That's exactly the point. bring peoples pain and frustration to the surface, then offer the solution. That's way better than just blabbing about bitcoin from the get-go.

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Quote from: Gavin Andresen on May 08, 2012, 06:45:26 PM

effective marketing appeals to emotion, not intellect.

Surprisingly true, sir.

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Quote from: Gavin Andresen on May 08, 2012, 06:45:26 PM

Quote from: Sukrim on May 08, 2012, 06:35:15 PM

For me it's a bit too much government bashing and too little actual information.

Yeah, but you're probably a geek and think cute cat videos have too little actual information, too.

The video gets a +1 from me; effective marketing appeals to emotion, not intellect.

Agreed, great job on the video.

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Quote from: Gavin Andresen on May 08, 2012, 06:45:26 PM

Quote from: Sukrim on May 08, 2012, 06:35:15 PM

For me it's a bit too much government bashing and too little actual information.

Yeah, but you're probably a geek and think cute cat videos have too little actual information, too.

The video gets a +1 from me; effective marketing appeals to emotion, not intellect.

Bingo.

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Quote from: Sukrim on May 08, 2012, 06:35:15 PM

For me it's a bit too much government bashing and too little actual information.

Yeah, but you're probably a geek and think cute cat videos have too little actual information, too.

The video gets a +1 from me; effective marketing appeals to emotion, not intellect.

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Quote from: Sukrim on May 08, 2012, 06:35:15 PM

Bold words from a company that has HIGHER fees than Paypal!

Is Bitpay charging over 2.9% ??

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Bold words from a company that has HIGHER fees than Paypal!

Also Bitcoin currently pays ~250k USD to miners per week (6 Blocks per hour per day per week * 350USD at a rate of 5 $ per coin). In half a year this amount will halve, meaning that miners will either give up making the network vulnerable or need real transaction fees (which are currently too small to care about).

For me it's a bit too much government bashing and too little actual information. To "just use Bitcoin" to transfer money, you need to buy them - from a japanese website that looks like a stock exchange and doesn't accept my Paypal or Credit Card! After that you get hit by AML laws until you are allowed to withdraw the money you sent "so fast"...

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Quote from: terrytibbs on May 08, 2012, 06:22:43 PM

Quote from: ineededausername on May 08, 2012, 06:17:06 PM

What's up with "PayPay?"

It's satirical, and I assume it hints at their outrageous fees. (See also: "fakebook", and "Goggle")

PayPay and all of the characters are fictional, of course. In this scene, PayPay locks up other peoples money for 6 months without any appeal.

http://screwbanks.net/credits.html

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