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Quote from: Getmon on January 31, 2024, 09:12:10 PM

I want to find out if there are individuals like me. What percentage of the gamblers in Bitcointalk are wagering and not wagering to their dearest star player, club and team?

I voted for: I can wager against my dearest star player, club and team.

And it's obvious that everyone is not emotional, we will have to go against our favorite team if we see that they can be defeated or not going to win because the other team is too strong. If we bet based on our emotion and not on our won analysis in sports betting, we will surely lost a lot of money on it.

That's why sports betting is kinda different in terms of gambling as we our own analysis as our betting guide goes hand in hand. And in order to become successful, we all rely on our thorough analysis to make informed decisions.

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No, I don’t bet on favourites. If my favourite player or team is playing against a strong opponent, then it will be fine for me to not bet on favourites. I won’t bet on that particular match only. It’s better to not make profits than making losses by betting on my favourites. Moreover in sportsbetting, I like to take little risk and bet towards the end of the game when the winner is somehow clear. Hence though my favourite team is losing, I will be able to make money by betting against them.

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Quote from: Fundamentals Of on January 31, 2024, 10:47:20 PM

Although every gambler must have his favorite team or player, I don't think it will have more weight in terms of betting. Gambling is of course trying to make money. And it is supposed to be based on objective analysis and stats rather than emotions.

But sometimes it can't be avoided that when your team or player is in a game you really want them to win and you also want to cheer for them while watching them live. Because of this, you either not bet at all especially if your team or player is a big underdog or you still bet on them but with the minimum amount only.

Everyone who places a bet will of course look at the statistics of the matches played by the team they are going to place a bet on and the statistics of the opponents, because everyone who bets of course wants to win and if their favorite team has a bigger opponent then it is very unlikely they will place a bet on their favorite team because they will not be sure they can win the bet they will place, but if they are determined they will not miss their favorite team's match and will continue to support their favorite team.

No, sometimes we bet because it's our favorite team or player that's playing. I don't know if this applies to everybody but there are indeed times when I place such kind of bet. So it's not all the time that you bet based on statistics and analysis. And it's not all the time that money is the goal.

Especially when it involves a player or a team that represents your flag or your country or locality, you won't likely bet on the opposing team even if they will probably win. You will stick to who you truly root for win or lose. And sometimes you can't avoid putting your money where your mouth is. That adds to the fun and solid support.

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Quote from: alegotardo on February 01, 2024, 04:56:43 PM

Quote from: Getmon on January 31, 2024, 09:12:10 PM

I want to find out if there are individuals like me. What percentage of the gamblers in Bitcointalk are wagering and not wagering to their dearest star player, club and team?

When we mix gambling and a favorite idol or team, it's difficult to choose between one or the other.
I generally bet in favor of the teams I like the most, as I just play for fun. But for those who bet for money (with the intention of winning), it is more plausible to bet on the team that has the best chance of winning, even if that means betting against your favorite team.

As I said, it's a difficult choice, I usually bet on who I like the most, but I believe that the majority here bet for money. My question is: Whoever bets against your team to make money is rooting for which result? For your favorite team or for risky money?

I dont like to have that dilemma. when my favorite team play, I choose to bet on something unique, like how many corner kicks or cards, because it would avoid bigger disappointment if things go unexpected. I like this approach because I prioritize financial gain over emotional attachment to my favorite team. Choosing the team with the best chance of winning based on analytical considerations, statistics, and the current form of the teams involved is another fun that I dont like it involves in my favoritism.

Betting against my favorite team makes me lose the excitement in watching the game. In many cases, people may compartmentalize their emotional loyalty and financial interests. They may hope for their favorite team's success emotionally but recognize that placing a strategic bet against them could be a more rational financial decision. The motivation behind betting against their favorite team is often the pursuit of profit rather than a desire to see the team lose. It's a complex dynamic where personal sentiments and financial considerations intersect, whether it's or the potential gains from successful bets.

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Quote from: Getmon on January 31, 2024, 09:12:10 PM

I want to find out if there are individuals like me. What percentage of the gamblers in Bitcointalk are wagering and not wagering to their dearest star player, club and team?

When we mix gambling and a favorite idol or team, it's difficult to choose between one or the other.
I generally bet in favor of the teams I like the most, as I just play for fun. But for those who bet for money (with the intention of winning), it is more plausible to bet on the team that has the best chance of winning, even if that means betting against your favorite team.

As I said, it's a difficult choice, I usually bet on who I like the most, but I believe that the majority here bet for money. My question is: Whoever bets against your team to make money is rooting for which result? For your favorite team or for risky money?

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Quote from: Getmon on January 31, 2024, 09:12:10 PM

I want to find out if there are individuals like me. What percentage of the gamblers in Bitcointalk are wagering and not wagering to their dearest star player, club and team?

Look, I can't say for sure how many people on here are in the same boat as you - feeling torn between team pride and that little gambling devil on your shoulder. But let me tell you, you ain't alone! Something about the passion we feel for our teams mixed with the chance to make some dough makes betting against them mighty tempting and whether that's terrifying or thrilling likely depends on the person.

Me? I bleed my teams colors through and through. Putting money on them to lose just don't sit right with me. But hey, to each their own! I know plenty of folks who throw down a friendly wager here and there even when their squad is playing. For some, that rush is part of the fun. At the end of the day, all that really matters is that you're getting your adrenaline pumping one way or another.

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I think fans are always torn between choosing their favorite teams/athletes over their bet analysis. For me, I don’t make bets that are not in favour of my team. If the stats indicate that my team may be in the losing position, I would prefer not to play the game. Because if I do stake against my team and I win the bet, I won’t experience that thrill of winning because my team lost.

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Quote from: Getmon on January 31, 2024, 09:12:10 PM

I am talking about the boxing match between former champion and big star Anthony Joshua and mma star Francis Nganou. However, I remember not long ago I refused to place a wager on Real Madrid because I desired Girona to win La Liga. In addition, wagering against the Los Angeles Lakers when matched with the best NBA teams is difficult for me.

I want to find out if there are individuals like me. What percentage of the gamblers in Bitcointalk are wagering and not wagering to their dearest star player, club and team?

If my team is incompetents in any game, I will never wager my money on them. I'm loyal to them by love but not to be foolish in making decisions that will bring in money for me while they do their rubbish. Just imagine Arsenal current form are having match with current form of Liverpool, and then I decide to stake huge amount of money on Arsenal to win. That's gambling suicide because I know that Liverpool are going to give them brutality of their lives. Now, knowing these as a fan big fan and then I still went ahead take Arsenal as win.

When you want to wager money on any games, live emotion aside, forget what they are going to do to your favorite, you are not after the statistics this time but your target is to see your prediction comes true. Let's even say your favorite win and you predicted them to lose, you will have something to rejoice over even after you have loss your bets, its better than having nothing at all.

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Quote from: Fortify on February 01, 2024, 03:44:13 PM

Quote from: Getmon on January 31, 2024, 09:12:10 PM

When I saw a survey indicating that the majority of voters chose the player that only a handful of experts expect to win over the player that has proven to be more dominant, it blew my mind.

I am talking about the boxing match between former champion and big star Anthony Joshua and mma star Francis Nganou. However, I remember not long ago I refused to place a wager on Real Madrid because I desired Girona to win La Liga. In addition, wagering against the Los Angeles Lakers when matched with the best NBA teams is difficult for me.

I want to find out if there are individuals like me. What percentage of the gamblers in Bitcointalk are wagering and not wagering to their dearest star player, club and team?

This is perhaps leaning into the realm of personal biases and deep subconscious discrepancies that are hard for a gambler to understand. It is why clean and simple, mathematics driven odds simulation by the data scrapers that allow bookmakers to come up with odds, will always beat the average joe who will generally be poor at making anything beyond a simple decision, like a top league football team beating a lower league football team being statistically likely to happen. When you get into things like multi bets, most individuals won't stand a chance at winning them consistently over the long term and they are one of the most profitable areas for sportbooks. People naturally tend to drift towards familiarity and it is quite impossible to stay up to date with all teams and players at a reasonable level.

Really indeed the differences in between things on which your bet would really be that detrimental on how hardly you do support such player or team on which personal biases could neither be applied or not.
If you are that someone who is really that aiming on winning a particular bet then you would really casting away those biases and would be sticking into those analysis on which you could really be able to apply.
Not all people would really be having on the same mindset on which there are really ones who would really be fighting for their loyal support on a player or team but there are ones
who dont really care and could able to make up those kind of adjustments if they wanted to.

For me then i could easily make out those counter bets no matter how i do like a certain team, if i do see that they are on disadvantage then it wont really be that hard for you to
bet on the other side. I dont really like those loyal supports or favoritism. Grin

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Quote from: Getmon on January 31, 2024, 09:12:10 PM

When I saw a survey indicating that the majority of voters chose the player that only a handful of experts expect to win over the player that has proven to be more dominant, it blew my mind.

I am talking about the boxing match between former champion and big star Anthony Joshua and mma star Francis Nganou. However, I remember not long ago I refused to place a wager on Real Madrid because I desired Girona to win La Liga. In addition, wagering against the Los Angeles Lakers when matched with the best NBA teams is difficult for me.

I want to find out if there are individuals like me. What percentage of the gamblers in Bitcointalk are wagering and not wagering to their dearest star player, club and team?

This is perhaps leaning into the realm of personal biases and deep subconscious discrepancies that are hard for a gambler to understand. It is why clean and simple, mathematics driven odds simulation by the data scrapers that allow bookmakers to come up with odds, will always beat the average joe who will generally be poor at making anything beyond a simple decision, like a top league football team beating a lower league football team being statistically likely to happen. When you get into things like multi bets, most individuals won't stand a chance at winning them consistently over the long term and they are one of the most profitable areas for sportbooks. People naturally tend to drift towards familiarity and it is quite impossible to stay up to date with all teams and players at a reasonable level.

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Some people purposely bet against their favorite club so that when the turn comes, by chance, they win significant profits, and this is what causes most people to lose money in gambling, because some always look at the team's big odds. If I have an interest in gambling, even if I want to play a bet, I would rather bet 3 to 4 games and select small odds and then put better money like 2000 Naira up, it will be difficult that the game will not come if you play them, because all those teams I bet will be against small teams that are not strong.

However I consider gambling has an easy game since, if you know how to monitor their statistics, you won't have any trouble losing money, even though it has a bigger risk than other things.

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I support my teams all the way, but not to the point of insanity wherein I will be actively declining a potential profit. I'm a human after all, and my needs will always come first before my team or any other faction that I support related to sports. If I know already that a possible matchup against the team that I support will put them in a rough spot, I'd surely place a bet and still watch the game. That's still supporting the team you love, albeit in a very limited and no-nonsense way.

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Loyalty is complicated, no doubt about it. When you deeply care about a player, club, or team wanting to support them is only natural. Betting against them would seem almost traitorous. but then again, placing a clever wager, chasing that gambling thrill, scoring a big payout. and... I'd be lying if I said temptation never knocks.

What can I say, the heart wants what it wants. And the mind wants to maximize profits. Finding the right balance between devotion and daring is part of what makes sports betting so fascinating. The emotional stakes involved give every decision an extra weight and meaning.

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Gamblers who bet in favour of their favourite team or best player to win is only being emotional and bias. A good gambler will differentiate between gambling and love/support for his favourite team. In world cup football matches for instance, many gamblers will bet in favour of their countries to win when deep down they know the team their country will be playing against is way too strong and capable to defeat their country. Many gamblers fail because they attach so much emotions to their gambles which influences them to make wrong choices.

I am not a regular gambler, but whenever I decide to gamble, I analyse my game logically and place my bets without any form of sentiment, irrespective of which team I love the most. Yea, I love that team but my money is also at stake here. This doesn't in any way reduce the love I have for my favourite team because my bets won't play any role in their winning or losing the game.

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Quote from: Getmon on January 31, 2024, 09:12:10 PM

I want to find out if there are individuals like me. What percentage of the gamblers in Bitcointalk are wagering and not wagering to their dearest star player, club and team?

First, we must understand that being a fan is different from gambling. If we want to maximize the chance of winning, we must set aside our emotions and look at the statistics and information about the competing team. So if my analogy says that the opponent of my favorite has a better chance of winning, I will put my bet on that team. My favorites do entertain me but losing money just to prove my loyalty won't give me a loyalty point nor will make them notice that I am betting my money for them to win. They won't even buy me candy for that, so for me, it is better to be practical and use our mind and bet on the team that has more chance of winning.

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Quote from: Getmon on January 31, 2024, 09:12:10 PM

I want to find out if there are individuals like me. What percentage of the gamblers in Bitcointalk are wagering and not wagering to their dearest star player, club and team?

It's simple to just easily pick and select our favorite team to win. But as a gambler and sports bettors, we should maximize the potential profit we can get by supporting that team as much as possible. The betting options are not limited to only MONEYLINE and expect that if your favorite team has the upper edge, then odds provider will give them low odds.

As a bettor, and if you want to play gambling, then be wise to pick a bet. However, if you really love and want to show support for that team regardless of anything, then it's your call to freely bet as much as you want, at your own will, and enjoy the whole game.

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Quote from: Fundamentals Of on January 31, 2024, 10:47:20 PM

Although every gambler must have his favorite team or player, I don't think it will have more weight in terms of betting. Gambling is of course trying to make money. And it is supposed to be based on objective analysis and stats rather than emotions.

But sometimes it can't be avoided that when your team or player is in a game you really want them to win and you also want to cheer for them while watching them live. Because of this, you either not bet at all especially if your team or player is a big underdog or you still bet on them but with the minimum amount only.

Everyone who places a bet will of course look at the statistics of the matches played by the team they are going to place a bet on and the statistics of the opponents, because everyone who bets of course wants to win and if their favorite team has a bigger opponent then it is very unlikely they will place a bet on their favorite team because they will not be sure they can win the bet they will place, but if they are determined they will not miss their favorite team's match and will continue to support their favorite team.

Yes, if you are involved in sports betting then obviously one of the things that should not be ignored is to look at the statistics of the teams that will compete, if basically the two teams have fairly equal strength when you look at the standings in one of the ongoing seasons then maybe the result can be 50 - 50, in the sense that there is a high probability of the match ending in a draw, and if the story is different I mean if you find out that your favorite team turns out to have less depth or strength and is not balanced with the opposing team then I think this is the time for you to occasionally betray your team by choosing the opposing team that will be made as your betting place if indeed the tone prioritizes victory because basically the possibility of victory can be greater by doing that way. On the other hand I think this depends on your own choice as well as based on the facts about the state of your favorite team, but as you said if they are very favorite team then maybe they should not focus too much on winning if basically the opponent's strength is more dominant than your favorite team, such as making victory a second priority.

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I don't know much about betting, but I always bet when there are important matches, like the countries in the World Cup, and I like to bet on criteria that I like. I don't know much about the methods and strategies they use to choose a good team, I know that they take into account whether the player they have on a team is famous or plays more than the other, but I don't know how they measure themselves in that, I only bet on the team that I consider to be stronger, if they have Players that I like Well , I feel very sorry for them , but I bet on the other team, I do it that way but it's because I don't know the criteria they use to have a better perception of the games.

There are some who analyze everything, if the players are injured, or are going through a bad moment or something like that, but I am not like that, if I follow some players, some teams but they are all famous, if there is a team that always plays better and wins as Brazil always bets in favor of Brazil or Argentina.

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Quote from: agustina2 on February 01, 2024, 10:31:51 AM

Depends on the odds. Even if I'm a hardcore fan of some players or teams, if the odds are not worth placing a bet, I'd rather skip betting.

That's true, depending on the odds. Even if we're hardcore fans of a team but if the odds are just going to allow us to win even less than the amount that we bet, it's not justifiable to take that risk.

Because you know with these odds that are too small, it's better to just leave them alone and have a moral support without the need to gamble. With those bets that you'll put on those matches, there's a bigger chance that you might even lose and there can be some twist and turn arounds that you're not expecting to come.

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I can and I will is my answer.

I don't remember any particular event when I did that but I know me, I am not going to let the emotions take over the common sense, if the result is so obvious that the team against your favorite club has the better chance of winning the game then I will simply go for it with no hesitation at all because you can be fan meanwhile you can think rationally too.

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