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Quote from: Getmon on January 31, 2024, 10:12:10 PM

When I saw a survey indicating that the majority of voters chose the player that only a handful of experts expect to win over the player that has proven to be more dominant, it blew my mind.

I am talking about the boxing match between former champion and big star Anthony Joshua and mma star Francis Nganou. However, I remember not long ago I refused to place a wager on Real Madrid because I desired Girona to win La Liga. In addition, wagering against the Los Angeles Lakers when matched with the best NBA teams is difficult for me.

I want to find out if there are individuals like me. What percentage of the gamblers in Bitcointalk are wagering and not wagering to their dearest star player, club and team?

A real fan of Lebron I think will not gamble against the team but because gamblers prefer to make a profit, it's a way to make money. I think the same for Ngannou vs AJ, Ngannou had gained the confidence of many MMA fans that when he arrived in boxing, they tended to trust his boxing skills. They lost against Fury because of it. But they still liked Ngannou and argued he was cheated.

And it gonna be the same with the fight against AJ. Even if AJ wins, Ngannou will still be in the hearts of those guys always a fan.
I'm a fan, I bet Ngannou will KO AJ Grin

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Quote from: Getmon on January 31, 2024, 10:12:10 PM

What percentage of the gamblers in Bitcointalk are wagering and not wagering to their dearest star player, club and team?

If you can willingly and without remorse place a bet against your favorite team and players without any odd feeling, you do not really love your team and players, making it that you are gambling for money and the wins.

If you find it difficult to bet against your team or favorite players, and will rather not bet than bet against your team, you have real love for your team and players. This is my simple view.

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Quote from: Getmon on January 31, 2024, 10:12:10 PM

I want to find out if there are individuals like me. What percentage of the gamblers in Bitcointalk are wagering and not wagering to their dearest star player, club and team?

Depends on the odds. Even if I'm a hardcore fan of some players or teams, if the odds are not worth placing a bet, I'd rather skip betting.

Especially in Moneyline, you can always expect that most of the time, your favorite team is mostly listed as Favorites.

Because of that, I will end up betting instead on other betting options such as in basketball, I prefer betting mostly at Over/Under and Series matches.

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Quote from: Getmon on January 31, 2024, 10:12:10 PM

When I saw a survey indicating that the majority of voters chose the player that only a handful of experts expect to win over the player that has proven to be more dominant, it blew my mind.

I am talking about the boxing match between former champion and big star Anthony Joshua and mma star Francis Nganou. However, I remember not long ago I refused to place a wager on Real Madrid because I desired Girona to win La Liga. In addition, wagering against the Los Angeles Lakers when matched with the best NBA teams is difficult for me.

I want to find out if there are individuals like me. What percentage of the gamblers in Bitcointalk are wagering and not wagering to their dearest star player, club and team?

So far, 0% of people seem to mind wagering against their idols.

Totally understandable. I don't make emotional decisions when I wager against my favorite player or team just because they are my favorite. It takes more than that when I see a nice wagering opportunity. It seems only logical to me that one would choose money and logic over emotions and fantasy. Cheesy

Although I would probably not tell people that I wagered against my favorite team or player because it would make me seem unfaithful and I would rather avoid that social pressure.

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Quote from: Getmon on January 31, 2024, 10:12:10 PM

I want to find out if there are individuals like me. What percentage of the gamblers in Bitcointalk are wagering and not wagering to their dearest star player, club and team?

A lot and that's typically happens to everyone when we feel like that we should be off betting by that time. And that's because with several reasons like we don't feel that the team or club that we're supporting isn't going to win. Yes, we might be an avid fan but that happens to us when we are emotional and just don't feel that it's the right time to bet for those matches or games. After that, we simply regret when we missed betting and the team that we're supporting looks like they're winning.

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It actually doesn't work like this. You don't have to choose to always bet on favorites or underdogs on every of your bets exclusively. I believe most gamblers will adapt their bets depending on the matches. Sometimes they will prefer to go for the favorites and in other times they will go for the underdogs, accordingly to the respective analysis made towards a specific game.

It's important to mention that personal passions for determined players or teams should never speak louder in gambling matters. Be technical and strict with your analysis, otherwise you are going to raise your chances of losing money due to betting on a team or player just because you are a fan and have an emotional attachment to them. We have already read many stories of gamblers who lost money because they were betting for passion, instead of reason.

Sometimes it can be that the team you are fan eventually become the favorite one of the competition, so in this case you can combine business with pleasure. Cheesy

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Quote from: Getmon on January 31, 2024, 10:12:10 PM

I want to find out if there are individuals like me. What percentage of the gamblers in Bitcointalk are wagering and not wagering to their dearest star player, club and team?

There are a lot of players like you and I'm one of them, it's not easy to win in gambling if there is a chance to win even against your favorite team you have to take it, I'm not a blind follower, I'll go for statistic just like in boxing when it's my interest if my analysis leads me where my favorite boxer will lose then I'll go to bet to his opponent, it's gambling, there's no perfect team or perfect fighters and soon your favorite team or fighter will meet a team or fighter that is superior than him or them.
You have to be realistic and practical as a gambler bet a team or a fighter who is favorite to win or if you can take a loss go for your team and hope for an upset but an upset rarely happens.

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Quote from: Getmon on January 31, 2024, 10:12:10 PM

I want to find out if there are individuals like me. What percentage of the gamblers in Bitcointalk are wagering and not wagering to their dearest star player, club and team?

You're a gambler, you will take the opportunity to make money even at the expense of your favorite team or fighter I did this many times in our local basketball tournament, I just don't announce that I'm betting against my favorite team so I will not receive criticism.
It's ok to bet against your favorite team, people shift their loyalty and allegiance to another team when one of their favorite players or players moves to the other team.
You don't have to question yourself or anyone questioning you about your loyalty you can still cheer your team but not when you're betting against the other team,
gambling is gambling it's your hard-earned money that you're staking so it's just right that you pick the right bet that will yield winning.
So far on the poll, all the voters voted

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I can wager against my dearest star player, club and team. - 10 (100%)

but I will not be surprised if some members go the other way, some gamblers are very dedicated to their favorite team.

I once did it in the Pacquiao - Bradley fight, Pacquiao is my all-time favorite but I just felt that Bradley could give him a hard time because of his size and I did win the bet but I still support Pacquiao to this day.

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Quote from: Getmon on January 31, 2024, 10:12:10 PM

I want to find out if there are individuals like me. What percentage of the gamblers in Bitcointalk are wagering and not wagering to their dearest star player, club and team?

If I know the schedule for boxing, football, basketball and so on, what else is one of the clubs competing in, team and also one of my favorite players, of course I didn't think long before I immediately bet on them, it's a different matter of winning and losing, the point is I still bet on my favorite team.

My view, if someone has a favorite club or player, they will do anything, The important thing is that they have done something for their favorite players in betting. There is a special pride in gambling for our favorite players, regardless of winning or losing.
Bottom line: my choice is point 2.

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Like today, I cannot bet against the Denver Nuggets although on paper they might lose that game against the OKC Thunder. Jokic was questionable to play, it was written even before the game started but I refused to believe that because of the word "questionable" and I a big fan of the attendance of Jokic in how much he played last season and this season. So, I my mind is clouded by that idea and still bet for the Nuggets. Jokic didn't play. Sad.

I always have a hard time betting against the team that I root for. Golden State Warriors too. But there are times that I must swallow the truth especially if their best players are not available. I've done that, betting against them, and twice I won my bet because I practiced the profit first before the heart belief of a gambler. It's the wisest decision I made but still, it hurt my feelings just thinking about it, as a fan.
I don't really like betting for a boxer, an MMA fighter, or an NBA team that I love. Sometimes I just try to ignore that they will have a game so that no bets will be made.
It's wrong as a gambler because we are using emotional bets. Most of the time it will be a loss but I don't regret it because the cheering factor for them gets louder when I bet for them which makes me enjoy the game.

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Quote from: Getmon on January 31, 2024, 10:12:10 PM

When I saw a survey indicating that the majority of voters chose the player that only a handful of experts expect to win over the player that has proven to be more dominant, it blew my mind.

I am talking about the boxing match between former champion and big star Anthony Joshua and mma star Francis Nganou. However, I remember not long ago I refused to place a wager on Real Madrid because I desired Girona to win La Liga. In addition, wagering against the Los Angeles Lakers when matched with the best NBA teams is difficult for me.

I want to find out if there are individuals like me. What percentage of the gamblers in Bitcointalk are wagering and not wagering to their dearest star player, club and team?

I always go with statistics as it is the best piece of information that I have against the house.

Statistics exist for a reason- they are reliable source of information where all of the match data are collated and compared with each other. If you have information that a certain team dominates a specific sport, then statistics would say that they are most likely to win a match.

For example, if a team has a positive winning percentage against a stronger team, then the most likely to win out of the two would be the former, as per statistics. Additionally, if a team has a huge amount of wins compared to a weaker team with many losses, then the former would most likely be the candidate as the winner.

At the end of the day, there is still that chance that the dark horse or the weaker team may win as nothing is absolute. But in a platform where you only have a few factors to cling on to, I would definitely choose the stronger/dominant team based on statistics.

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Almost all of our favorite teams will be bet.... because this will be a good opportunity, in fact I turn with you, if you do not dare to bet on Real Madrid because you want Girona to win then I will not do it because it is certain here we know Real Madrid is a team that is favored by many.

As for other sports, I'm not really interested.

About the percentage of gambling players on bitcointalk I don't know but you will see in the vote, but I'm not sure which one is more but with the favorite team there will be more bets.

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Quote from: Getmon on January 31, 2024, 10:12:10 PM

I want to find out if there are individuals like me. What percentage of the gamblers in Bitcointalk are wagering and not wagering to their dearest star player, club and team?

I don`t involve club sentiment when I gamble. I can bet against my football team when the possibility of the other team winning is high. I remember betting on Manchester City to win Arsenal regardless that I support Arsenal. I won that bet. However, most of my friends has always criticized me that I am not a die-hard Arsenal fan but the truth is that I am after the money and wouldn`t want to incur any loss because I am a fan. To me, gambling is a business and if you must profit then you must rise above club or player sentiment.

However, the implication of this is that, even when you win the bet, you are still not happy that your team lost. Also, betting against your team means that on that particular game you don`t support your team and when they win you are also not happy because you lost your bet. If you cannot control your emotions then it is good you don`t bet against your team.

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Quote from: Getmon on January 31, 2024, 10:12:10 PM

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I want to find out if there are individuals like me. What percentage of the gamblers in Bitcointalk are wagering and not wagering to their dearest star player, club and team?

In principle, we can just bet according to what we want. I mean, I bet according to the conditions and situation of the team I choose to bet on. IMO, it's not uncommon for me not to choose to bet on star teams, favorite teams or something like that. So like this, in football betting, I will bet according to the options available. ideally, after I research and analyze the two teams that will compete. plus, referring to various up-to-date information. if 1x2 betting is not ideal, there are many options I can choose from. whether it's Under/Over, handicap, both teams to score and various other options available.

So I don't always have to bet on a team, even if it is a favorite team. Let's be realistic, even if we bet with more than just the idea of having fun. but also to get a win in the betting session that we do. that's why, I always do research, analysis, also involving other variables. Regarding your question, I don't think I will know the answer. because referring to the voting options you display, there is no ideal choice for me.

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I'm not a hardcore fan of sports betting either; I mostly stick to football and rely on the little knowledge I have. Generally, I tend to go with what could be called "safe" bets. Although I fully understand that there are no guarantees when it comes to gambling, Although I do have a favorite team, I'll opt to bet on the most superior team, whether or not I'm a fan of them or not. The whole deal about gambling is to earn some money in return. If I don't see my team winning for whatever reason, the opponent team has far better performance, or my team has been having troubles in the past few matches, I'll bet on who's more likely to win.

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Quote from: Getmon on January 31, 2024, 10:12:10 PM

When I saw a survey indicating that the majority of voters chose the player that only a handful of experts expect to win over the player that has proven to be more dominant, it blew my mind.

I am talking about the boxing match between former champion and big star Anthony Joshua and mma star Francis Nganou. However, I remember not long ago I refused to place a wager on Real Madrid because I desired Girona to win La Liga. In addition, wagering against the Los Angeles Lakers when matched with the best NBA teams is difficult for me.

I want to find out if there are individuals like me. What percentage of the gamblers in Bitcointalk are wagering and not wagering to their dearest star player, club and team?

Actually when it comes on trying out to make some counter bets with the favorite team/player then i have already that experienced several times on which it would really be that basing up into some factors
on which i do usually do tend to check out. Trying out to check their past performances on which you could really be able to go with side to side comparison on which it would really be giving out that kind of idea
on where you should really that put up your bet even if it means that you would really be going against with your favorite team or player. Some might not consider on taking some bets because of some
personal reasons like they would really be that loyal into those teams and to those people who dont really care as long they could be able to win. Loyalty isnt something that applicable everytime.

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Quote from: Getmon on January 31, 2024, 10:12:10 PM

I want to find out if there are individuals like me. What percentage of the gamblers in Bitcointalk are wagering and not wagering to their dearest star player, club and team?

I do gamble against my best teams a few times especially when I feel like risking some funds I'm sure loosing wouldn't be a big deal, there are time I will the bookies giving certain odds against my favorite team and I know for sure that there are chances my favourite will loose going by the statistics and history of these teams or individuals meeting so I will make a low stake on such big risk and wait to see the out come, there was a time this season when a team was given over 16 odds to win Manchester city and I risked it and fortunately for me Manchester city lost although they were my favourite but I won the game so there are times I dare to take such risk.

A team been our favourite isn't a guarantee they will win but if they are a very strong team, it very possible they win most of the times and for season when they're not in their very best form you should expect a few losses from them and in such cases playing against them means you are definitely going to feast.

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Quote from: Getmon on January 31, 2024, 10:12:10 PM

I want to find out if there are individuals like me. What percentage of the gamblers in Bitcointalk are wagering and not wagering to their dearest star player, club and team?

I am one of those who voted I can and I don't have a problem doing that, you can still be loyal without compromising your chances to make a profit if you're a gambler and if there's a possibility to make a profit you'll go for it because its not every day that you can have a chance to make money and if your favorite team happens to be an underdog then so be it, in gambling you should not practice blind loyalty, you can cheer on your team when you're not betting but when you bet and your team happens to be an underdog its nothing personal, you deserve to make a profit when there's an opportunity presented to you.
I think I bet over 20 times already against my favorite team or player, my heart goes to my favorite but my pocket goes to the one who is likely to win.

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I cannot put a wager against my dearest star player, club and team. - 0 (0%)
I can wager against my dearest star player, club and team. - 7 (100%)
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Quote from: Getmon on January 31, 2024, 10:12:10 PM

When I saw a survey indicating that the majority of voters chose the player that only a handful of experts expect to win over the player that has proven to be more dominant, it blew my mind.

I am talking about the boxing match between former champion and big star Anthony Joshua and mma star Francis Nganou. However, I remember not long ago I refused to place a wager on Real Madrid because I desired Girona to win La Liga. In addition, wagering against the Los Angeles Lakers when matched with the best NBA teams is difficult for me.

I want to find out if there are individuals like me. What percentage of the gamblers in Bitcointalk are wagering and not wagering to their dearest star player, club and team?

Let me ask you a question. Why are you betting? Win, right? Then you should discard your sympathy for a particular team or boxer if they are more likely to lose and bet against them. You may want your favorite team to win, but when gambling you should be objective and bet based on the likely profit rather than the fan's expectations. Nothing personal, just ~~business~~ bets.

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Quote from: Getmon on January 31, 2024, 10:12:10 PM

I want to find out if there are individuals like me. What percentage of the gamblers in Bitcointalk are wagering and not wagering to their dearest star player, club and team?

Well, I can place a bet against my favorite team/player, but I am not a hardcore fan. There are teams and players I like more than others, but everyone loses so if I think they will lose I will bet against them.

But I know some hardcore fans who never bet against their teams/players. My colleague is a huge fan of Partizan Club, so he is betting on Partizan on every basketball and football game, he bets even when the odds are pretty high and just says that he supports his club no matter what. Of course, sometimes when he is confident in their win he places some higher bets, when he plays against the odds and common sense he places some small bets. Maybe it's hard to understand it, but there are some pretty crazy fans that are ready to do anything for their club.

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