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Quote from: Gozie51 on July 05, 2023, 09:30:04 AM

It is for the fash and sharp minds and that is why you hear all the allegations stories in the forum whether true or not but each party is trying to watch their back because if you don't protect yourself, any lakuna could be exploited.

This is why we should get updates on the platforms that we are playing, not all of us are good at catching cheating casinos, they should be reported to warn other players, they may cheat players one time and get away with it but they cannot cheat players all the time and once caught that's the end of the line for this kind of casino.
So we should urge players to report if there are bugs and manipulation and it should be accompanied by proof because there are also players who try to get it even though they lose fair and square and they gave false allegations and accusations.

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Quote from: aioc on July 05, 2023, 09:12:38 AM

Bug or manipulation, players should not experience this, it's a form of cheating, the admins should present their platform free of bugs and manipulation to their players, they need to test their platform for bugs, its better to name that platform, because they could still be doing this.

Hardly would a casino owner want to prevent the easy means that they are hoodwinking their customers unnoticed. Casino is such a business that any vacuum that exist if exploited without being caught then everything is okay. It is not a gentle man business nor business for people who propagate morality. It is for the fash and sharp minds and that is why you hear all the allegations stories in the forum whether true or not but each party is trying to watch their back because if you don't protect yourself, any lakuna could be exploited.

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I have played virtual game and I didn't take note of any manipulation because I have a friend that has won huge some of funds from virtual and he hasn't stated any bug. However,we have some casino that are not trustworthy and can cheat their customers through manipulation of the game. I believe that ever cheat has been done and programmed in this system which makes the house edge to always win. We should also note that virtual betting is the fastest money consuming game due to the programming,so I don't think that there is any manipulation in virtual game when the game is ongoing.

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Quote from: Gozie51 on July 05, 2023, 04:42:17 AM

Quote from: Sandra_hakeem on July 04, 2023, 04:52:31 PM

but i normally noticed something very displeasing - sometimes, I felt bad for any gambler that lost in that same way and It looked to me like a kinda "money heist" program.

As a worker in the gaming industry and you feel displeasured about what has been happening with customers money where they are losing even at games they were suppose to win, you are in the position to know more and reveal to us on what is happening in the virtual soccer business. So you mean you never complained this or asked the management to at least know what it is for your own knowledge. Or something like that never came up for discussion during the staff meetings.

Sandra should tell us more, she is the one who can confirm if there are manipulation or bugs like how many times this happened and if there were times that players noticed this, and if they are complaining or totally She does not know everything about this.

Bug or manipulation, players should not experience this, it's a form of cheating, the admins should present their platform free of bugs and manipulation to their players, they need to test their platform for bugs, its better to name that platform, because they could still be doing this.

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Quote from: Sandra_hakeem on July 04, 2023, 04:52:31 PM

how can 5 goals from the away teams be scored in barely a time to blink?? Could that have supposed to mean something different? Maybe a bug? Or is it some sort of misprogramming?

As far as I know, the Away Goal team refers to the system, it's purely based on Hattrick, Brace, Quattrick, or Quintrick, more commonly known as leg or home-away in the system, usually the away team is considered to have more weight than the home/headquarters team, using a system of determining the highest number of away goals, in the event of a draw or 2-0 one match.

In the Quintrick system, usually players have to try and be sued or required to score 5 goals in one game, I remember when Bayern players scored 2 goals in 4 minutes, on away goals.

Different from the Hattrick system in that away goals players are required to score 6 goals, while Quattrick is demanded 4 goals and Brace 2 goals, as far as I know that is the process of how to determine away goals, more than the assessment of time in one game.

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Quote from: Sandra_hakeem on July 04, 2023, 04:52:31 PM

but i normally noticed something very displeasing - sometimes, I felt bad for any gambler that lost in that same way and It looked to me like a kinda "money heist" program.

As a worker in the gaming industry and you feel displeasured about what has been happening with customers money where they are losing even at games they were suppose to win, you are in the position to know more and reveal to us on what is happening in the virtual soccer business. So you mean you never complained this or asked the management to at least know what it is for your own knowledge. Or something like that never came up for discussion during the staff meetings.

Virtual soccer is programmed but that a game will change within few minutes against the customer to the abysmal level that will give the bettor sleepless night from thinking of what actually happened, it surely a thought not to go through. Therefore, if this is not happening in any other games or bet but for only the correct score that was about to favour the player, then the gambling house should be able to explain what happened. Unfortunately, one of the disadvantages of virtual soccer is that it lacks comprehensive replay but for 5 goals to be scored within 7/8 minutes to the end of the match by the away team shows a manipulation is possible and also when playing virtual soccer, expect anything from programming.

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Quote from: Oshosondy on July 04, 2023, 05:59:13 PM

Quote from: goinmerry on July 04, 2023, 05:42:06 PM

Does it have a sort of what I mentioned about anything related to viewing the post-match simulation?

I play virtual football matches at home, also I have went to betting agents before, but I did not noticed anything related to replay. Maybe it can be on some gambling sites, but I have not noticed it before on the one I am using. If you use a well trustworthy betting site, you have nothing to be worried about. Why should a betting site manipulate when they can do everything in a legit way and still earn more money from customers to keep on growing bigger.

It is not normal for a site to have bugs because a site is made up of many systems. However, there are less bugs in trusted sites and if any gambler is harmed due to any problem on the site, the site authority takes responsibility. So a gambler must gamble on a trusted site and under a trusted agent, in this case he will at least have a chance to avoid being cheated. Gambling never guarantees profit to anyone, so no gambler can get a guaranteed profit even if he gambles on a trusted site with a trusted agent. But may remain scam free

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Quote from: Sandra_hakeem on July 04, 2023, 04:52:31 PM

A gambler could bet on correct scores - mind you, this all happens only in Virtual games - let's say, 3-0 and, since the games are being displayed on screens for them to confirm Thier winnings, it could even happen that the game stops at the 82nd minute, maybe with a 2-0 score,but once it rules out and updates the scores on the score sheets,.what we all see is 2-5...
Now the question is, how can 5 goals from the away teams be scored in barely a time to blink?? Could that have supposed to mean something different? Maybe a bug? Or is it some sort of misprogramming?

Gamblers who play in these virtual games know the risk involved and know that winning is on a slim chance, it can go their way, or the way of the casino which is usually more the case, but at other times when someone is lucky, and play these games, the reverse of your story can happen, which is someone who is losing by two goals when the game ends at the 82nd minutes, when the scores are updated on the scoresheet, the person has won by 5 goals to 2 goals. Things can happen in these games, and it can be the luck of the gambler some days.

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Quote from: Sandra_hakeem on July 04, 2023, 04:52:31 PM

Now the question is, how can 5 goals from the away teams be scored in barely a time to blink?? Could that have supposed to mean something different? Maybe a bug? Or is it some sort of misprogramming?

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It could be a bug or some technical issues, but it should undergo an investigation and everyone who placed a bet on that specific match must be a subject for compensation if it's proven a technical issues. It should be considered a manipulation/cheating if the casino refuses to do so.
The 5 goals alone in just a matter of a little left in the clock is already a questionable output, It don't matter if it's a virtual game nobody programs a game to generate that kind of instant result anyway.

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Probably a bug or a glitch or, yeah, an attempt to manipulate the results. It's a virtual game, after all.

But I wonder, why the brazen cheating? I don't know how large this casino is, but if it's large enough that hundreds of thousands in USD is at stake, I don't think they will get away with it. So it could indeed be some sort of technical glitch.

It's just suspicious that not only did a team score 5 goals in a matter of a few minutes, the score of the other team was also reduced. How is it even possible? The score sheets displayed on the screen were erroneous?

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Maybe the sportsbook's live score is bugged because I remember it happens on a few sportsbooks. Once their live score desyncs, you'd sometimes be surprised how fast the score moves as they try to adjust it.

The fastest goals i've seen usually are within a minute or two, but if it's five goals within a minute or less, then there's probably an issue with their live score.

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If I wouldn't have any means to verify the result of a game then I simply wouldn't bet on it. Also, if the platform does this to me once, I would most probably let everyone know about it to make sure that no one will ever experience the same thing again. 0 to 5 is an insane feat that anyone can do in a football match, let alone in just a few minutes of game time. Even if it's just a virtual game, there's no way that a team would be able to score 5 goals if they haven't scored a single one in the past 82 minutes.

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Quote from: Sandra_hakeem on July 04, 2023, 04:52:31 PM

Now the question is, how can 5 goals from the away teams be scored in barely a time to blink?? Could that have supposed to mean something different? Maybe a bug? Or is it some sort of misprogramming?

That's not good and it's questionable it's obviously cheating this is why I hate virtual games, you cannot verify the result and the platform can easily manipulate the game, they always have the edge but at least they should not show results that obviously cheat a player.

Players know that the house has an edge and they can accept, but showing them a result in favor of the house that can be considered cheating is outrageous, bug or misprogramming always favors the house, they never give winnings that comes from bug.

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Within 82nd to 90th minute, away team scored 5 goals? Can you give us the name of the betting sites that you experienced this? If it is true, do not use the betting site again, they are manipulating the whole thing if such thing continues in other matches. But the gambling sites that have virtual games that I have gambled with before can be said to not manipulate anything.

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I wouldn't put my money on anything that doesn't have a verifiable and fair betting system. When it comes to real matches, you can always cross-check the results on other sites or even watch the match live through a stream. But when it comes to virtual games, I'm not sure how it should work. If I can't independently verify the outcome, I wouldn't risk betting on them.

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Quote from: Wiwo on July 04, 2023, 05:10:11 PM

Note that, the casino system is designed to favour the house and for that, if there is no fairness in the system it then means the casino is at liberty to treat the gambler in whichever their can and so long as the casino is a business outfit, it then means that there will do everything possible to protect their interest.

So even in a sure winning bet, the casino doesn't mind manipulating the games just to suit their own interest against that of the player.

Man, it's really? Since when did wrong become right?

In a business relationship of any kind, justice must always prevail, what you said sounds ridiculous to me and I hope it's just a joke on your part.

Bookmakers already have the house advantage, something that makes you a lot of money and that should be reason enough for them against players.

In the same way that I must accept the site's rules when registering, the site must also respect the transparency and fairness of the bets that the player makes.

Anyway, I know that there are lots of fraudulent sites out there, so it's good to bet only on those that have a reputation to uphold.

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Quote from: Sandra_hakeem on July 04, 2023, 04:52:31 PM

Now the question is, how can 5 goals from the away teams be scored in barely a time to blink?? Could that have supposed to mean something different? Maybe a bug? Or is it some sort of misprogramming?

If a player is good and can analyze the game he will question the results, bug, or misprogramming its cheating, when it's a bug and the player lose. the platform will just ignore it, but if it's a bug and the platform losses the game the admin will nullify the result.

Virtual games can be programmed I'm sure you know that but it should not be to the point that the result is questionable and can be considered obvious cheating, 5 goals in a very short period of time is not acceptable for a player who knows the game.

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Quote from: goinmerry on July 04, 2023, 05:42:06 PM

Does it have a sort of what I mentioned about anything related to viewing the post-match simulation?

I play virtual football matches at home, also I have went to betting agents before, but I did not noticed anything related to replay. Maybe it can be on some gambling sites, but I have not noticed it before on the one I am using. If you use a well trustworthy betting site, you have nothing to be worried about. Why should a betting site manipulate when they can do everything in a legit way and still earn more money from customers to keep on growing bigger.

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Quote from: Sandra_hakeem on July 04, 2023, 04:52:31 PM

Now the question is, how can 5 goals from the away teams be scored in barely a time to blink?? Could that have supposed to mean something different? Maybe a bug? Or is it some sort of misprogramming?

There should be at least an available simulation replay or something related to that term to verify how the result happened. It should show the bettors the overall breakdown of what we really on that game. I don't see it as a misprogrammed if we refer to a legit virtual betting site.

I don't have experience betting on virtual games but since you work at a casino house, are you aware of how virtual betting results are shown?

Does it have a sort of what I mentioned about anything related to viewing the post-match simulation?

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Note that, the casino system is designed to favour the house and for that, if there is no fairness in the system it then means the casino is at liberty to treat the gambler in whichever their can and so long as the casino is a business outfit, it then means that there will do everything possible to protect their interest.

So even in a sure winning bet, the casino doesn't mind manipulating the games just to suit their own interest against that of the player.

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