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Quote from: Gases on September 16, 2021, 05:19:03 AM

I feel that vitalik created blockchain 2.0, which should be regarded as a milestone in the currency circle. In the world of blockchain, his contribution is second after Satoshi Nakamoto.

Anyone making a transaction in your so called blockchain 2.0 will be cursing that they need to spend $30 and more per transaction Tongue

. Satoshi created the blockchain and there is no taking that position and there is no blockchain 2.0 as per the real sense, if that was the case ETH would be transacting thousands of transaction per second without any increase in fees.

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Quote from: dezoel on September 20, 2021, 12:22:18 PM

Without Ethereum building the blockchain that it has, and without the introduction to tokens, dapps, defis, nft and many other things that eth blockchain paved the way, crypto world would not be as big as it is right now.

To be fair, it must also be said that the features listed were not invented by Ethereum or Vitalik. These features existed in other projects before Ethereum existed. I remember Nxt, for example, where there were already colored coins and decentralized marketplaces in 2013/2014. Ethereum just made some things better and it became the largest holistic ecosystem in cryptospace.

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Without Ethereum building the blockchain that it has, and without the introduction to tokens, dapps, defis, nft and many other things that eth blockchain paved the way, crypto world would not be as big as it is right now. So, we have to give Vitalik his fair share that dude managed to make crypto even more famous. I am not saying without him none of this happens, it could have still happened, or crypto would be still available and big but just not as big as it is right now.

However, we have to accept that he has a bit of a play in what is going on right now and how he impacted it. Kudos to him for sticking to his guns whenever people went against him, if he listened everyone ETH would have been ETC of today.

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Quote from: Gases on September 16, 2021, 05:19:03 AM

I feel that vitalik created blockchain 2.0, which should be regarded as a milestone in the currency circle. In the world of blockchain, his contribution is second after Satoshi Nakamoto.

Nope , not because Ethereum popularity meaning Vitalik is already second to Satoshi Nakamoto . there are even more coins that is much better than Ethereum but does not have their chances yet.
when the adoption happens in the future you will see why I say this.
and besides Blockchain 2.0 does not coming yet so there is no confirmation totally for this.

Quote from: jakdanyel on September 18, 2021, 08:16:13 AM

Vitalik Buterin is the mainstay for Ethereum. His contributions to the project have been very important so far. Thanks to his actions, Ethereum is at a much better level now. It is being developed more and more to reach upper levels. And the price is also effected in a good way. Ethereum has a bright future and it might even compete with Bitcoin in the future.

But is this enough to called Vitalik next to Satoshi the Founder?

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It must be admitted that the influence of ethereum is very large and makes the market skyrocket, it is evident that the largest transactions today (more than 70%) are ethereum-based, without ethereum the bitcoin price may still be under $100 because most ICOs and trading are always paired with ethereum/token undeer ethereum.

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Quote from: Gases on September 16, 2021, 05:19:03 AM

I feel that vitalik created blockchain 2.0, which should be regarded as a milestone in the currency circle. In the world of blockchain, his contribution is second after Satoshi Nakamoto.

Ethereum is one of the important things in the crypto industry as well as bitcoin, with the contribution of Vitalik so that it has now triggered several movements that are able to bring crypto and blockchain to be adopted more quickly by the community, in contrast to bitcoin ethereum comes with a versatile computing system that allows it to run various applications through the blockchain network.

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Quote from: Gases on September 16, 2021, 05:19:03 AM

I feel that vitalik created blockchain 2.0, which should be regarded as a milestone in the currency circle. In the world of blockchain, his contribution is second after Satoshi Nakamoto.

OP,I don't understand the point of your forum thread.
Is anybody denying the contribution of Vitalik Buretin to blockchain technology?
I'm not denying his contribution,but I think that he kinda opened "Pandora's box" with all the ICO tokens,DeFi,NFTs and all the scam shit that was created on top of the Ethereum blockchain.Some of those crypto projects had good intentions,but the vast majority were just exit scams.
After 6 years of existence,Ethereum had proven that it simply isn't better than Bitcoin Core and it will never replace Bitcoin Core as the biggest and best cryptocurrency in the world.

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Quote from: Gases on September 16, 2021, 05:19:03 AM

I feel that vitalik created blockchain 2.0, which should be regarded as a milestone in the currency circle. In the world of blockchain, his contribution is second after Satoshi Nakamoto.

I do not think so. If you are referring smart contract within blockchain as a new innovation then I guess such a feature was introduced before ethereum in this crypto world (please correct me if my memory is not serving me exact things). In my opinion, Vitalik was smart enough to convince most IPO devs to adopt ethereum even they were having multiple options for the same purposes. For example, waves also got options to provide smart contract things but for unknown reasons most devs are not bothering it for issuing tokens.

Anyway, I respect Vitalik at least for standing along with his project till date and making it 2nd most successful crypto unlike what dogecoin and litecoin devs did.

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Making this type of comparisons in this case is a funnel for the second place, if it is necessary to give hierarchical space, in fact there are characters related to bitcoin that may well become part of the great people who contributed to the development of the Bitcoin environment and consequently Blockchain without starting to give hierarchical positions of who is second or third, they are simply there and vitalik may not appear in that essential contribution.

The issue here does not try to detract from his contribution, that there is undeniable, but we must make things clear: not because you take anabolics or drugs can you hit 70 home runs in a season, you have to have talent and Vitalik Buterin has, but there is no doubt that the bitcoin's open source was the "legal" steroids that helped him.

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Quote from: jakdanyel on September 18, 2021, 08:16:13 AM

Vitalik Buterin is the mainstay for Ethereum. His contributions to the project have been very important so far. Thanks to his actions, Ethereum is at a much better level now. It is being developed more and more to reach upper levels. And the price is also effected in a good way. Ethereum has a bright future and it might even compete with Bitcoin in the future.

It will compete with bitcoin in the future if not now, I mean the fact that there's a face for Ethereum is enough evidence to that although they're supply isn't as small as bitcoin, I think that they can compete regardless. Also, just because no one talks about Vitalik in this forum doesn't mean that he didn't made an impact.

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Quote from: Gases on September 16, 2021, 05:19:03 AM

I feel that vitalik created blockchain 2.0, which should be regarded as a milestone in the currency circle. In the world of blockchain, his contribution is second after Satoshi Nakamoto.

I understand that Vitalik can be seen, or heard, or talked to whereas none of that can be done for Satoshi, he hasn't been around for years now. All in all I would say that the most logical argument for Vitalik would be the fact that he can say his thoughts and we can know about it, unlike satoshi who we do not know even if he is alive or not. Plus, ethereum became big, and if it became this big then we have to accept the fact that Vitalik had something to do with it. You do not "manage" the progress of a currency and get it super high and ranked so high and stay so high for so long without ever getting some kudos from the community time to time.

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Vitalik Buterin is the mainstay for Ethereum. His contributions to the project have been very important so far. Thanks to his actions, Ethereum is at a much better level now. It is being developed more and more to reach upper levels. And the price is also effected in a good way. Ethereum has a bright future and it might even compete with Bitcoin in the future.

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Quote from: Gases on September 16, 2021, 05:19:03 AM

I feel that vitalik created blockchain 2.0, which should be regarded as a milestone in the currency circle. In the world of blockchain, his contribution is second after Satoshi Nakamoto.

I wouldn't see it that way. Satoshi has created a truly new "product" (of course there was some preliminary work, but Satoshi has assembled many individual elements into something new that did not exist before and solved an essential problem), while Vitalik has improved this product with some new features.

It's kind of like saying Satoshi invented the car and Vitalik added electronic power steering and a navigation system. One would say the invention of the car itself was a much greater invention. And that's how I see it with Bitcoin and Ethereum. Nevertheless, Vitalik has made a huge contribution to entire crypto space.

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Vitalik is the one who integrated game theory into the blockchain and created smart contracts on ETH 2.0. At the time of launch, the projects held ICOs on Ethereum. This is a novelty and we must credit him. There have been a series of private smart contract development projects since then.
Blockchain 2.0 is a breakthrough and takes crypto beyond just payments.

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In the first place though, who says that it's not? I mean he is the creator of Ethereum so it's not like he's just a nobody, and we are on a bitcoin forum so it's not every day we talk about other coin and their founders.

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Credits for him for trying to compete and it was rewarded pretty well.
I actually envy people who have great minds, the wise ones and he is one of them as far I know.
The contribution he made for cryptocurrencies will surely be written in history even if Bitcoin is on top.
I think that is also one of the reasons why I didn't even doubt buying his Ethereum. One part as support for him and another as my view for its future that will surely be innovative and of course, profitable.

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Vitalik gets most of the attention for Ethereum but its not like the concept of smart-contracts was anything new. What played for him was his presentation skills and the image of the impoverished 17-year old technology geek.

As far as smart-contracts are concerned, There are several "greats" like him, AVAX, SOL, Now even ADA is offering smart-contracts and people are actually using them because of the ridiculous fee on Ethereum. There is not one original thing that Vitalik accomplished. People started using Solidity and that is his biggest achievement. Apart from that, there are many like him.

Only a fool who cannot comprehend the difference between "Success" and "Greatness" will compare him to Satoshi.

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The presence of ethereum made crypto shine even more, before the presence of ethereum crypto looked dim because the volume of transactions and projects was very difficult to get money from the ICO, but after ethereum in 2013 crypto became more powerful and many ethereum-based projects managed to get money from the ICO and this became the beginning of crypto continues to prosper until now, even I would say the influence of ethereum is greater than bitcoin.

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Quote from: Gases on September 16, 2021, 05:19:03 AM

I feel that vitalik created blockchain 2.0, which should be regarded as a milestone in the currency circle. In the world of blockchain, his contribution is second after Satoshi Nakamoto.

On this developments, I believed that ethereum would remain the strongest following cryptocurrency of bitcoin and despite of its transaction fee issues I guess people just ignored it due to the bigger potential that eth would be second possible future btc. The value it has right now was the path where btc also was seen raging over until such time it became established of current profitable value.

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Quote from: Gases on September 16, 2021, 05:19:03 AM

I feel that vitalik created blockchain 2.0

When someone says they created blockchain 2.0, banking 4.0, finance 3.0 and so on, it's a sure thing that they are scammers who just spew technobabble to lure clueless people into investing in their shitcoins. I'm not sure if Vitalik himself ever claimed that he created blockchain 2.0, but if he did, it's incredibly dishonest of him.

"blockchain 2.0" and altcoins are irrelevant, each day they move closer and closer to centralization, with Bitcoin being the only coin that is true to the original goals. Compared Vitalik to Satoshi is completely incorrect and insulting.

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