Topic: Vlad "plots" aginst best freind scammer Matthew N. Wright - page 2. (Read 9055 times)

My best guess is nothing will happen.

And perhaps it's better that way.

What makes you think that either of those things is even remotely likely to happen in the real world?

Best case scenario, we get what we ask and Matthew gets deported.

Worst case scenario, Matt gets deported for illegal online gambling.

Both of which will drag bittalk and bitcoin magazine's name through the mud for having a co-owner co-creator scammer on their team.  Im willing to see both through to the end if I have to.

Of course we dont need to get that far, they can contact us but have opted not to for some reason.

"This is what happens when you fuck a stranger in the ass."

Let's face it.  It's in the best interests of anyone who believes they can successfully sue Matthew that he receives the maximum price possible for his interest in Bittalk Media.  It's in the best interests of those wanting to acquire his interest in BitTalk Media that they pay the minimum price possible.  Forcing him to sell at a fire sale price is actually against the interests of those people who believe they can successfully sue him over any bets he made with them.

Oh wow! I have totally been missing out on this. This story is much bigger than I thought it was!

Well, time to get me some cornflakes.

Goat-

You have proven yourself to be simple minded with this.

You post edited versions of a PM and expect people to accept this nonsense? You spread FUD and foolishness to what end? Just trying to deflect attention from yourself and your love affair with all things pirate? Couldn't stay out of the limelight for two whole days and had to call attention to yourself with an issue that you have no standing in?

Yes, Matty still has a stake in the holding company of the magazine. My understanding is that there are currently negotiations underway to buy him out. That ownership share is nothing that anyone could "claim", any more than a creditor could "claim" the house that Goat lives in in satisfaction of his debts created through participation as a shill and collection point for the pirate fraud.

Unless there is a whole lot more to the communication you have not shared, you have no concept why anyone might be offering to buy debt from you, although it is telling that you consider your payments to pirate to have some value that could be sold. Clearly creating a bridge that blows right past your silly little excuses about how pirate's scheme had nothing to do with you, and how you are protected by some nonsense "it's risky" language you posted AFTER you started selling the shares.

So what you are in effect considering here, is selling an asset created by your abuse of fiduciary responsibility, obtained with funds given to you in trust, that you remain liable for, so that you can personally continue to profit from the wreckage of a scam that you were a key participant in? Or will you post your repayment scheme for how anything Vlad offered you was going to go to your creditors whose money you are being so cavalier with?

When will you learn to STFU? Do you really think you are the only person any of the principals in this matter are communicating with? Do you really think that editing PM's and producing bullshit like this is going to take the heat off of your own behavior?

Well, I've still yet to hear from Matthew or Vlad, yet Matthew has been active on the forum as recently as today, in fact 3 seconds ago from the time of this post.  I have limited time to jerk around with this as I'm a single father who owns a small business. Time is money and also time lost with family to break away and check on this.  I will be looking to recoup the expenses of my time and if needed lawyer costs, though I don't want to go this route.  I would personally love to be contacted by Matt or Vlad so that we may conclude this mess and resolve Matt's debt (either through payment in full or an equity offer) that Matthew Neil Wright co-owner of BitTalk and Bitcoin Magazine created.

Thanks.

Best thing said in this thread.

VIP = buying confidence = con men most of the time.

-1 for Goat.

I (stupidly) used to think this guy is the real deal and the most honest on the forums for posting so much personal info and working for charity but now ... he is a joke.

Just another pirate shill.

MNW never took anyone's money trying to sue him on a broken promise is absurd or is that just the american way to sue for anything and trying to get him deported is wrong.

mh, this is going to become a full-time job.

have to agree. What matthew did was wrong, but he was punished sufficiently for it. Labeled a scammer, "excommunicated", lost his job and (soon?) all his bitcoin related assets that he helped create. Considering there was no conceivable way Matthew was going to profit from this "scam", he didnt profit from it, and its difficult to argue anyone really lost anything, Matthew has paid a fair price for his mistake IMO,  particularly when you compare it to pirate, and the scams that are still ongoing today. Energy would better be directed there than kicking matthew while he's down.

I would love to know the so called "lots of people that have given you personal information"

That is seriously scary..


On another note..

I must state that I dislike matthew and his childish ways..  But only because he was bigger than himself, he was in a position of power, a figure head for bitcoin, and was screwing it up, making bitcoin look bad..

But for christ sakes people..

Did you really take this bet that seriously?


Suing Matthew ?   ffsakes..  Can we do something more productive ?

Dont we have actual bigger fish to fry..   ie (Douchbag@40)



Goat..  with you trying to sue the world for the people that scammed you, how do you devote enough time to even one scammer ?

So then my question is what is our (holders of MNW debt) next step? I have not been contacted by anyone including Vlad.  BitTalk is assuming Matt's debt or trying to.  They are offering monetary value for Matt's debt, i.e. mag subscriptions.  This leads me to two conclusions.  1. They are trying to assume Matt's stake in the company to take over his assets in the company to get rid of him. 2. They are trying to sweep this under the rug and allow Matt a "get out of jail free" option.  Both of which acknowledge Matthew's obligations to his debt holders and his contract to us.  Period.

I will not settle for a year subscription.  I see them desperately trying to achieve that.  Matt owes me 1000 BTC.  Matt co-owns Bittalk.  Either I get equity or I have to move on to other means to get my legally obligated debt.

Why haven't you contacted me Vlad?  I'm owed just as everyone else.  I do not like what I see right now.  Nor do I like my options.

Wow, no way I'm trading in Matt's debt to me for a years subscription to his own magazine. lol.  Crazy.

Now if you want to talk equity, I'm listening.  Otherwise, hahahaha.

Wait...someone is buying mnw debt?

My bet with him was for 2000btc, make me an offer.

Oh right you trust PPTs and pirate more than both of them too huh.

LOL comedy gold.

"pirate is going to pay"

LAWL!

At fair market price or at the diluted price they're trying to force Matthew to accept?  It's sure as hell not in the interests of anyone planning to sue Matthew that he accepts a token payment for his stake in BitTalk Media Ltd.

I think its ironic that I gave Matt the option to pay me in a bitcoin magazine subscription rather than paying me directly, it wouldn't have saved him much, but I was thinking I was helping him.. And thanked me for the opportunity.. If it was a big joke, right there he should have told me, "hey, its  really a big scam" but no, he agreed to pay me with a magazine subscription instead of the coins.. So, right there voided his technicality...

But, I would hope that all monies that are payed to Matthew to buy him out from Bitcoin Magazine will/should be used to pay back the bet. Not going to hold my breath, but that's how it should be..

One thing that I would add is that the period is longer if the parties are not dealing at arms length. Here is Canada it would likely be 12 months for the $10,000 in gold coins / lawn mower trade with a family member. http://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/B-3/page-68.html#h-32 I do agree it is rare in personal bankruptcies but it can happen especially if there are non arms length deals involved.

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Time to bring in some new blood.   I love this forum, we just need to clean it up so we can take it to the next level.