I don't get this thread? Attention seeking or else? wtf?
Also, correct your punctuation and spelling on the thread topic.
Goat, if you really want some well-deserved recognition, bring Pirate to justice & stop wasting time.
Topic: Vlad "plots" aginst best freind scammer Matthew N. Wright - page 4. (Read 9055 times)
"Note: PM privacy is not guaranteed. Encrypt sensitive messages."
Seems the forum policy is that PM are personal messages and not private messages.
"Haha, you trusted me, you idiot!"Seems the forum policy is that PM are personal messages and not private messages.
You have just validated every bad thing everyone has ever said about you.
Well, from the PM's he posted it's not quite like that in Goats case. Ask for agreement on confidentiality THEN send the confidential information in a separate message afterwards.
The following is how to create an agreement:
Alice: "I'd like to keep this confidential, is this OK with you?"
Bob: "Yes"
*Conversation ensues*
The following is how to create a silly situation:
Alice: "I'd like to keep this confidential. I've just taken advantage of Carol, she's such a sucker"
*Possible Drama in the making*
Goat, I've had it..
You are the most consistent slimeball on these forums..
You are the most consistent slimeball on these forums..
+10
Many people do trust me
Will the sockpuppet that still trusts goat please stand up?
MNW has a dept?
you cant be saying his dept is the bet he lost.... is it?
you cant be saying his dept is the bet he lost.... is it?
Goat,
let me get this straight.
You make a bet with someone you should know he hasn't the money, at a time when it is absolutely sure you can't loose and all signs pointing to that he won't pay.
And now you are posting private messages of someone who is willing to give you something just out of good intentions and no other reason to do so.
And then you start bitching about this person.
Do you have any sense for social behaviour at all?
Guys like you make me sick.
let me get this straight.
You make a bet with someone you should know he hasn't the money, at a time when it is absolutely sure you can't loose and all signs pointing to that he won't pay.
And now you are posting private messages of someone who is willing to give you something just out of good intentions and no other reason to do so.
And then you start bitching about this person.
Do you have any sense for social behaviour at all?
Guys like you make me sick.
So wait I can sell my worthless matthew debt to van for bitcoin magazines.
I have 6 btc owed by matthew, please send me some magazines.
I have 6 btc owed by matthew, please send me some magazines.
So what did Vlad do that is wrong? Matt indicated he had cut including ownership of BitTalk. Guess that was yet another lie made by Matt. If Vlad uses his defaulted obligations as leverage to boost him from the company before he does anymore damage I don't see a problem with it.
Honestly I am not sure what the problem is? Matt hasn't repaid the debt because he feels nobody is in a posistion to collect. Vlad believes he is in a posistion to collect. Selling debt to "stronger hands" happens all the time, everyday, all around the world. Vlad likely wants Matt far far away from the company he is a part owner. Can you honestly blame him? Matt has already done significant damage and if it comes out later that Matt still owns a significant stake that will be another blow to the company. Obviously depsite his "apology" Matt is looking to play hardball and Vlad see his debt as a method to gain leverage. It is called "big boy business".
Also Goat posting PM publicly?
They are called PRIVATE Messages for a reason. Nobody is saying it is criminal but it is downright scummy. Your actions indicate you don't care if a conversation is private you are just going to violate that privacy when you feel like it. Kinda sends a message that nobody should ever do business with you and nobody should ever tell you anything in confidence.
TL/DR: "snitches get stitches" j/k
Honestly I am not sure what the problem is? Matt hasn't repaid the debt because he feels nobody is in a posistion to collect. Vlad believes he is in a posistion to collect. Selling debt to "stronger hands" happens all the time, everyday, all around the world. Vlad likely wants Matt far far away from the company he is a part owner. Can you honestly blame him? Matt has already done significant damage and if it comes out later that Matt still owns a significant stake that will be another blow to the company. Obviously depsite his "apology" Matt is looking to play hardball and Vlad see his debt as a method to gain leverage. It is called "big boy business".
Also Goat posting PM publicly?
They are called PRIVATE Messages for a reason. Nobody is saying it is criminal but it is downright scummy. Your actions indicate you don't care if a conversation is private you are just going to violate that privacy when you feel like it. Kinda sends a message that nobody should ever do business with you and nobody should ever tell you anything in confidence.TL/DR: "snitches get stitches" j/k
This misses a very critical legal point. Does BitTalk and Vlad have right of offset on Matt's debt? If I were in Vlad's position I would be getting legal advice pronto. Seriously. Otherwise Matt could potentially bankrupt BitTalk over this.
I am going use Pirateat40 as an example since unlike this case it is fairly straightforward to establish the amount of the damages in court. In Matt's case the first question that comes to mind on the other hand is: Would a court consider a scammer tag on bitcointalk.org liquidated damages in the event of a default? So it is actually a lot worse for Vlad and BitTalk.
So let us say I purchase some Pirateat40 debt at say 5 bitcents on the BTC. I spend another 5 bitcents per BTC on debt collection efforts, get Pirateat40 to settle for say 15 bitcents on the BTC without forcing him into bankruptcy for a cool 100% profit. Sounds great? Not really. Let us say the other Pirateat40 creditors force Pirateat40 into bankruptcy shortly thereafter, and his bankruptcy estate cannot pay them 15 bitcents on the BTC. The bankruptcy estate can then sue me for the 15 bitcents per BTC pre-bankruptcy settlement.
slimeball tag for goat!
To mods: can we have Drama subforum pls? Many ppl are not interested in public dirty laundry washing.
+1 this is a fantastic idea! 
There should be a poll
"Note: PM privacy is not guaranteed. Encrypt sensitive messages."
Yes, because if you don't encrypt them, admins can read them. Nothing to stop you reposting an ecrypted message to you in the clear, is there goat? Especially your complete lack of personal morals.
Seems the forum policy is that PM are personal messages and not private messages.
Theymos had made it clear they can be posted. I felt it necessary to protect other debt holders who plan to go after Matthews limited assets.
Thank you for confirming for the Nth time to all reasonable people you are an untrustworthy piece of scum, willing to misread and twist words in any way possible post-facto to justify your actions.Theymos had made it clear they can be posted. I felt it necessary to protect other debt holders who plan to go after Matthews limited assets.
+1
Goat is so needing a scammer tag for many reasons now.
I'll sell my 3000BTC bet for 270BTC (9% is better than 10%, buy bulk and save)
I'll sell my 250BTC for 25BTC.
So what did Vlad do that is wrong? Matt indicated he had cut including ownership of BitTalk. Guess that was yet another lie made by Matt. If Vlad uses his defaulted obligations as leverage to boost him from the company before he does anymore damage I don't see a problem with it.
Honestly I am not sure what the problem is? Matt hasn't repaid the debt because he feels nobody is in a posistion to collect. Vlad believes he is in a posistion to collect. Selling debt to "stronger hands" happens all the time, everyday, all around the world. Vlad likely wants Matt far far away from the company he is a part owner. Can you honestly blame him? Matt has already done significant damage and if it comes out later that Matt still owns a significant stake that will be another blow to the company. Obviously depsite his "apology" Matt is looking to play hardball and Vlad see his debt as a method to gain leverage. It is called "big boy business".
Also Goat posting PM publicly? They are called PRIVATE Messages for a reason. Nobody is saying it is criminal but it is downright scummy. Your actions indicate you don't care if a conversation is private you are just going to violate that privacy when you feel like it. Kinda sends a message that nobody should ever do business with you and nobody should ever tell you anything in confidence.
TL/DR: "snitches get stitches" j/k
Honestly I am not sure what the problem is? Matt hasn't repaid the debt because he feels nobody is in a posistion to collect. Vlad believes he is in a posistion to collect. Selling debt to "stronger hands" happens all the time, everyday, all around the world. Vlad likely wants Matt far far away from the company he is a part owner. Can you honestly blame him? Matt has already done significant damage and if it comes out later that Matt still owns a significant stake that will be another blow to the company. Obviously depsite his "apology" Matt is looking to play hardball and Vlad see his debt as a method to gain leverage. It is called "big boy business".
Also Goat posting PM publicly?
They are called PRIVATE Messages for a reason. Nobody is saying it is criminal but it is downright scummy. Your actions indicate you don't care if a conversation is private you are just going to violate that privacy when you feel like it. Kinda sends a message that nobody should ever do business with you and nobody should ever tell you anything in confidence.TL/DR: "snitches get stitches" j/k
This misses a very critical legal point. Does BitTalk and Vlad have right of offset on Matt's debt? If I were in Vlad's position I would be getting legal advice pronto. Seriously. Otherwise Matt could potentially bankrupt BitTalk over this.
So what did Vlad do that is wrong? Matt indicated he had cut including ownership of BitTalk. Guess that was yet another lie made by Matt. If Vlad uses his defaulted obligations as leverage to boost him from the company before he does anymore damage I don't see a problem with it.
Honestly I am not sure what the problem is? Matt hasn't repaid the debt because he feels nobody is in a posistion to collect. Vlad believes he is in a posistion to collect. Selling debt to "stronger hands" happens all the time, everyday, all around the world. Vlad likely wants Matt far far away from the company he is a part owner. Can you honestly blame him? Matt has already done significant damage and if it comes out later that Matt still owns a significant stake that will be another blow to the company. Obviously depsite his "apology" Matt is looking to play hardball and Vlad see his debt as a method to gain leverage. It is called "big boy business".
Also Goat posting PM publicly? They are called PRIVATE Messages for a reason. Nobody is saying it is criminal but it is downright scummy. Your actions indicate you don't care if a conversation is private you are just going to violate that privacy when you feel like it. Kinda sends a message that nobody should ever do business with you and nobody should ever tell you anything in confidence.
TL/DR: "snitches get stitches" j/k
Honestly I am not sure what the problem is? Matt hasn't repaid the debt because he feels nobody is in a posistion to collect. Vlad believes he is in a posistion to collect. Selling debt to "stronger hands" happens all the time, everyday, all around the world. Vlad likely wants Matt far far away from the company he is a part owner. Can you honestly blame him? Matt has already done significant damage and if it comes out later that Matt still owns a significant stake that will be another blow to the company. Obviously depsite his "apology" Matt is looking to play hardball and Vlad see his debt as a method to gain leverage. It is called "big boy business".
Also Goat posting PM publicly?
They are called PRIVATE Messages for a reason. Nobody is saying it is criminal but it is downright scummy. Your actions indicate you don't care if a conversation is private you are just going to violate that privacy when you feel like it. Kinda sends a message that nobody should ever do business with you and nobody should ever tell you anything in confidence.TL/DR: "snitches get stitches" j/k
This misses a very critical legal point. Does BitTalk and Vlad have right of offset on Matt's debt? If I were in Vlad's position I would be getting legal advice pronto. Seriously. Otherwise Matt could potentially bankrupt BitTalk over this.
Anyway at this time I think the debt is worth more than a few mags.
So you might be interested in buying my 50 BTC bet with Matthew (made on August 22) at a 70% discount?
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.1122860
Anyway at this time I think the debt is worth more than a few mags.
do you want to buy my MNW debt about 100btc?
just pm me an offer...
you feel a 10 000 btc bet 2 days before the deadline is a serious legal obligation?
Clearly both Vlad and I do. Why else would we want the debt and use it to get Matthews assets?
Vlad thinks it's worth 2 year subscriptions of a magazine - whats your estimation?
We are looking into it. In Korea digital money is just as valid as fiat and they are pretty strict about debt (they will literally seize what you have and deport you). However the issue we are unclear about is if we can sue for a gambling debt. Because Matthew came into debt cuz he was gambling it might be tricky. This type of gambling in Korea might be illegal so who knows.
Anyway at this time I think the debt is worth more than a few mags.
please keep the community updated about your lawyers costs, that could be entertaining... have fun with the Koreans!
you feel a 10 000 btc bet 2 days before the deadline is a serious legal obligation?
Clearly both Vlad and I do. Why else would we want the debt and use it to get Matthews assets?
Vlad thinks it's worth 2 year subscriptions of a magazine - whats your estimation?
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