Topic: [VMC] Official Virtual Mining Corporation Discussion - page 18. (Read 85978 times)

Yes actually, there are many website where information gets missed that should be changed, doesn't change the fact that the current delivery date is plastered in front of your face when you try to make an order before payment. This is where it counts, arguing about it being missed anywhere else is just you trying to pick a fight with no point.


No I'm not, they are two separate entities. But you still have a straw-man argument, you are assuming that he will mine with the equipment instead of shipping it but have no proof. This is the definition of FUD as you are literally expressing your own jaded views of past mining companies on this one and calling them facts.


Pirate did that and now he is in jail, do you honestly think anyone would be stupid enough to do that again? Especially when we have all the real information about Ken? Again a straw-man argument backed by no facts and based on your jaded views of past mining companies.



They were supposed to be available late november/early december. This has always been the case. It is now nearing the end of december and speculation leads us to believe there will be chips by mid to late january. There isn't much information out there to tell which is why I said speculation. This is the last post from Ken two days ago.


Even if this company is late, they are one of the only companies offering refunds. If you ordered a unit and think you will not receive it, get a refund. Otherwise sit tight because chips are incoming.

So a company that took millions in pre-orders can't keep their website up to date? It needs reports from customers to fix that?



I thought AMC and VMC are 2 separate things. Are you telling me that someone who bought a Fast-Hash-One unit actually bought shares to the company and that will get dividends instead of the real hardware?


I'm not english native and i don't know if there is a word for what i described. Maybe "con trick"? He conned you to give him money to make whatever he wants with them.



Ok then i have one question: when will the chips be available? Do you know that? All i know is that they were supposed to be available this autumn/winter, but it seems that they got delayed. I'm not up to date with the latest news, but i don't see a specific date for the chips/miners.

@xnu Ok since FTC punished so bad BFL i bet ken is really afraid of them.

Maybe it's true, what do you suggest? Not buying? That will not solve the problem of stealing time from customers. If there are real facts, then ok, we'll write FTC, they'll take care on this case.

I always kind of knew you were a little crazy but man this takes the cake.

While I'm sure it does, it is a mistake and if you sent an email to them letting them know where they missed these, they would likely get changed. When you try to place an order it tells you that it is April delivery before it lets you purchase.

This is the whole point, he is building his own miners, there is a security that people own shares of this company and they will get dividends on those miners that he builds. Unless you have proof that he is mining for himself and forgoing paying dividends to his shareholders what you are saying is pure jaded speculation.

then you got on to say


Then you proceed to tell a scenario that never existed but instead it is something you cooked up in that funny mind of yours about multiplying BTC out of thin air.


All of his customers did not ask for a refund so again why would you bring a scenario like this up? Everyone that has asked for a refund received one. Straw-man arguments left and right.

This is where I know you must know nothing about this whole process. You obviously have a vast misunderstanding of how eASIC and fabless semiconductor companies work.

The whole business model of eASIC is time to market and quick turnaround once you have a working chip. While it may take a little longer to get the initial first chips, the process for ordering more should be very quick. eASIC wouldn't be in business right now if it took them "2 years or 10 years" to create a chip.

We're all waiting for the chips, Ken is no where near as late as BFL. They are not nearly as late as HashFast, and BlackArrow has a 3 week delay. You must be crazy to go out of your way to want to see this company be a scam, ever since one of the shareholders argued with you on one of these threads you have tirelessly forgone any reason and kept spewing childish remarks about "How can anyone order from this company" "This company is a scam" "Blah blah blah".

Roadstress, go focus your efforts at scam busting on another thread where you won't look so bad.

Ok maybe "scam" isn't the right word, but i still think this is a scam. Let me explain you. First he took pre-order money for a shipping date that was never real. The website still claims November shipping right now. With the money he took from pre-order he can build his own miners and just refund everyone. Of course it's not a scam because he didn't ran away with the money, but he kept your money locked for a period of time when he used as he pleased (i'm talking about kslaughter). If i take 1000BTC for asic miners and i multiply them to 10000BTC and then refund everyone then it wouldn't be a scam right? But i made money with your money while you made nothing.

And 1-2-5 refunds means nothing. Let's see if he can refund all his customers. Besides a press release from eASIC i never saw anything from this company. The money paid to eASIC means nothing. They can have the chips available in 2 years or 10 years. Paying 1 mil $ doesn't mean anything without any other proof.

Yeah, that would be very strange indeed

How in the world can it possibly be a scam with $1,000,000 paid to eASIC with an official press release and people getting the refunds they ask for?

A scam with refunds? 

Why did he buy from VMC? Just discovered the website on internet? Didn't read these forums where it's obvious that this is a scam?

My friend just tol me he received his cheque refund for 1 Ths Platinum from VMC. Anyway, one month for waiting for cheque to arrive and another for waiting to clear it by banks. Frozen money for few months.

More like an illegitimate child of BFL and Labcoin.

And i think you will wait for a reply a long time. Let us know what they tell you.