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legendary
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ASIC Wannabe
also: how about modifying the design files to include a micro-usb port or full-size USB port?  Its silly that you ship these without a $10 component that must be ripped from a pc or ordered online from amazon.  (this is causing bargraphics a 24hr delay on the first unit VMC shipped out to anybody)

Yes, it was my fault that I did not include the cable.  However, I was trying to ship it fast, my bad.

Make the next batch with a mini-usb port or a USB-B port, its a cleaner solution long-term
newbie
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Weekly Update 4/2/2014

Pre-Order Customers:

We are offering 20% off the price of our Prospector card for our Pre-Order customers.  We will apply your pre-order payment to your total Prospector card order.  You will need to use this voucher code URZSZLUF and have a valid pre-order with us.  Should your pre-order amount not cover the total on your order you will need to pay the difference.  If there is a balance left we will issue you a voucher for a future purchase.  When ordering as a pre-order customer you will need to add the Order ID of the pre-order you want transferred in the comment section of the order.

Datacenter:

The datacenter should be coming on line this week, barring any unforeseen problems.  We will be bring up 1 rack at a time.  We will have 4 racks in this phase with ~60 TH/s coming on line.  We will be adding additional step-down transformers to bring the total up to 100 TH/s after we get the first phase running.  The next phase will be to bring the datacenter up to 200 TH/s after the first month of running the first phase.

MSD Investigation:

We are continuing to work with the MSD through our lawyer to bring this to a conclusion is the shortest amount of time as possible.

Sells:

We have shipped our first miners and they have been delivered.  We are continuing to get orders and we are continuing to ship miners.

Shares:

Next week I will start transferring shares to CT so our investors can start trading.


Hello Ken can you have a look at your pm's and your website for my orders. I have some changes that i would love you to fix for me and some other questions that i have. Thanks
sr. member
Activity: 476
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Weekly Update 4/2/2014

Pre-Order Customers:

We are offering 20% off the price of our Prospector card for our Pre-Order customers.  We will apply your pre-order payment to your total Prospector card order.  You will need to use this voucher code URZSZLUF and have a valid pre-order with us.  Should your pre-order amount not cover the total on your order you will need to pay the difference.  If there is a balance left we will issue you a voucher for a future purchase.  When ordering as a pre-order customer you will need to add the Order ID of the pre-order you want transferred in the comment section of the order.

Datacenter:

The datacenter should be coming on line this week, barring any unforeseen problems.  We will be bring up 1 rack at a time.  We will have 4 racks in this phase with ~60 TH/s coming on line.  We will be adding additional step-down transformers to bring the total up to 100 TH/s after we get the first phase running.  The next phase will be to bring the datacenter up to 200 TH/s after the first month of running the first phase.

MSD Investigation:

We are continuing to work with the MSD through our lawyer to bring this to a conclusion is the shortest amount of time as possible.

Sells:

We have shipped our first miners and they have been delivered.  We are continuing to get orders and we are continuing to ship miners.

Shares:

Next week I will start transferring shares to CT so our investors can start trading.

sr. member
Activity: 476
Merit: 250
also: how about modifying the design files to include a micro-usb port or full-size USB port?  Its silly that you ship these without a $10 component that must be ripped from a pc or ordered online from amazon.  (this is causing bargraphics a 24hr delay on the first unit VMC shipped out to anybody)

Yes, it was my fault that I did not include the cable.  However, I was trying to ship it fast, my bad.
legendary
Activity: 2128
Merit: 1005
ASIC Wannabe
also: how about modifying the design files to include a micro-usb port or full-size USB port?  Its silly that you ship these without a $10 component that must be ripped from a pc or ordered online from amazon.  (this is causing bargraphics a 24hr delay on the first unit VMC shipped out to anybody)
legendary
Activity: 2128
Merit: 1005
ASIC Wannabe
@Sebastian yeah, it's "upside-down," and ken has explicitly stated that it's a dev board.  If you look either in this or the "UNmoderated" thread, MrTeal points out that the boards in the bags are probably a different revision (and he posted a pic of that rev.)

Yes, this is the board that we are building 5,000 in April.

Bulshit plastered over with more bullshit.  You were asked for photos of products being shipped now.  You posted a pic of a dev board which you claim you'll be making in April (it's April already, BTW).

Buying popcorn in bulk -- can't wait for Bargraphics' objective review.  He's "invested" up to the gills in you, ought to be pretty lulzy.

Edit:  Crop from the pic posted by Bargraphics.  Ken is reselling HashFast boards -- the "reference design" story is just that, a story.  These boards were made by HashFast, on their production line.  Unless the revision stickies are integral to design.



*Ken, you can pick those off with your fingernail, or just plaster over them with "Prospector" stickies for the Pro look.
>pro
>spector
>pro


HashFast FastHash Smiley


We manufactured these boards, we purchased the the parts, we purchased the PCB, and we paid the CM to assemble the boards.

We have 3 different CM's working on this project at the current time.  One of which is the same CM Hashfast uses.

You bought pre-fabricated PCB (presumably from hashfast since it has their stickers), hashfast chips, and used a hashfast assembly house.  Did you source the parts yourself, or does hashfast also sell the parts seperately?

This is my legitimate question, since it went unclear for weeks what type of chip you would use and it was hashfast. Now, it almost seems like the boards were purchased from hashfast as well, rather than your own PCB fabrication with Hashfast design files as you previously implied. Whats the production cost per board?
sr. member
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You really are a slime.  Nice wording.  Sorta like claiming you're shipping product and shipping a single sliderail.

Does that mean that all the boards you currently have/are selling were made by hashfast?

No, these boards were manufactured by us, using the reference design by hashfast.  This is standard procedure in the semiconductor business, AMD had done this for years.

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Are they HashFasts stickies? Last I heard HashFast was "renting out" their fabricator for others to use as long as they purchased the components. They could just be doing what they've always done.
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So wait, you're saying that HashFast boards, made on HashFast production line, are really *not* HashFast boards?  Is this one of those clever ploy like ActM "buying" boards from VMC?

"We're not selling boards -- we're selling the parts, the design, and the production line"?  Amazing.

I made my own Bimmer -- I bought the engine and the chassis, and had them assembled at the BMW factory.  I'm a major car manufacturer.

P.S:  You realize the reason Ken is getting a deal on those boards, right?  Those boards would otherwise go to HashFast customers who have already paid for them.
legendary
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Ken whats the distance between the cooler mounting holes is it 75mm as per 1155/1156 socket mounting?
sr. member
Activity: 476
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@Sebastian yeah, it's "upside-down," and ken has explicitly stated that it's a dev board.  If you look either in this or the "UNmoderated" thread, MrTeal points out that the boards in the bags are probably a different revision (and he posted a pic of that rev.)

Yes, this is the board that we are building 5,000 in April.

Bulshit plastered over with more bullshit.  You were asked for photos of products being shipped now.  You posted a pic of a dev board which you claim you'll be making in April (it's April already, BTW).

Buying popcorn in bulk -- can't wait for Bargraphics' objective review.  He's "invested" up to the gills in you, ought to be pretty lulzy.

Edit:  Crop from the pic posted by Bargraphics.  Ken is reselling HashFast boards -- the "reference design" story is just that, a story.  These boards were made by HashFast, on their production line.  Unless the revision stickies are integral to design.



*Ken, you can pick those off with your fingernail, or just plaster over them with "Prospector" stickies for the Pro look.
>pro
>spector
>pro


HashFast FastHash Smiley


We manufactured these boards, we purchased the the parts, we purchased the PCB, and we paid the CM to assemble the boards.

We have 3 different CM's working on this project at the current time.  One of which is the same CM Hashfast uses.
hero member
Activity: 518
Merit: 500
Every man is guilty of all the good he did not do.
Alright Guys,

I received my two units (Ordered another one because of the voucher)

I thought these units were going to come with the USB Connector but they didn't so I have to wait another day to get them up and running.

By the way for anyone thinking about ordering them, you will need the following:

Port USB A Female Slot Plate Adapter (USBPLATE) - This comes with two (for two units)
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0000511LW/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i01?ie=UTF8&psc=1

C&E 6-Feet USB 2.0 A Male to A Male Cable - You don't NEED 6 Ft but it was like $1.00 more for an extra 3 Ft.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00CJRV3CG/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1


Here are some pictures of the units that I have right now (To show proof of delivery)
http://imgur.com/a/Zqh6Q

I know there will still be some skeptics out there if I actually received these or not so let me know what to do that will be considered "proof" to you.


Depending on when Amazon delivers the USB cables tomorrow, I'll have them up and running hopefully!

Edit: I've been told for the USB to 5-Pin - The Red wire needs to go on Pin 1 (There's a little "1" next to it on the board) else it can cause burnouts if the header is installed backwards.
sr. member
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@Sebastian yeah, it's "upside-down," and ken has explicitly stated that it's a dev board.  If you look either in this or the "UNmoderated" thread, MrTeal points out that the boards in the bags are probably a different revision (and he posted a pic of that rev.)

Yes, this is the board that we are building 5,000 in April.

Bulshit plastered over with more bullshit.  You were asked for photos of products being shipped now.  You posted a pic of a dev board which you claim you'll be making in April (it's April already, BTW).

Buying popcorn in bulk -- can't wait for Bargraphics' objective review.  He's "invested" up to the gills in you, ought to be pretty lulzy.

Edit:  Crop from the pic posted by Bargraphics.  Ken is reselling HashFast boards -- the "reference design" story is just that, a story.  These boards were made by HashFast, on their production line.  Unless the revision stickies are integral to design.



*Ken, you can pick those off with your fingernail, or just plaster over them with "Prospector" stickies for the Pro look.
>pro
>spector
>pro


HashFast FastHash Smiley
full member
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@Sebastian yeah, it's "upside-down," and ken has explicitly stated that it's a dev board.  If you look either in this or the "UNmoderated" thread, MrTeal points out that the boards in the bags are probably a different revision (and he posted a pic of that rev.)

Yes, this is the board that we are building 5,000 in April.

Is that before or after you intend to process all long overdue refunds?
sr. member
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@Sebastian yeah, it's "upside-down," and ken has explicitly stated that it's a dev board.  If you look either in this or the "UNmoderated" thread, MrTeal points out that the boards in the bags are probably a different revision (and he posted a pic of that rev.)

Yes, this is the board that we are building 5,000 in April.
sr. member
Activity: 378
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@Sebastian yeah, it's "upside-down," and ken has explicitly stated that it's a dev board.  If you look either in this or the "UNmoderated" thread, MrTeal points out that the boards in the bags are probably a different revision (and he posted a pic of that rev.)
legendary
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Only the last bags give a small hint whats inside. When seeing the sample board im not sure what we see there. Maybe the sample board would look that way when its turned 180°? But from the first look the insight of the bags look a bit different.
full member
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@SebastianJu yeah, he did.  And his pictures showed the plastic bags.  What's inside is anyone's guess.  There's a weird English expression for that -- "pig in a poke." <==click Smiley

from wikipedia:

The idioms "miner from ken" and "sell a miner" (or buy a miner) refer to a confidence trick originating in the Late Middle Ages, when miners were scarce, but catboards and dogchips (minerpies) were not.[1][2][3] The idiom "miner from ken" can also simply refer to someone buying a non existent miner because he or she did not carefully check what was in the bag.[4]
full member
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Kenneth, where our our refunds you untrustworthy piece of s**t??

I have been waiting 4 months and have asked you for it about 30 times now.

that is all
sr. member
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@SebastianJu yeah, he did.  And his pictures showed the plastic bags.  What's inside is anyone's guess.  There's a weird English expression for that -- "pig in a poke." <==click Smiley
legendary
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Of course it is, this is our development board from hashfast.  We are in the process of tooling our production line to build 5,000 boards in April.

So wait, you post a pic of a dev board as proof of the product you claim to be shipping *now*?
Unless you're shipping dev boards, I'd say that's fucking sleazy.

How about a pic of the stuff you claim to be shipping?

The pictures show our stock of boards and the product ready to be shipped.

No.  Your pictures show what you have admitted is a dev board (not one of the board you claim to be shipping), cardboard boxes, anti-static bags, coolers (which have nothing to do with the orders.  You are not including a cooling solution AFAIK, correct me if I'm mistaken), and empty racks (also not being shipped, I presume).  There is not a single picture of the product ready to be shipped.


Didnt Ken claim that the first image are the boards? Inside the anti-static bags?

Anyway... in some days we will see if customers got something.
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