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legendary
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March 22, 2015, 02:16:01 AM
#22
I don't see where the problem is. Microsoft does little to nothing for keys distributed from unauthorised resellers or even illegally. They never de-activate keys. Big part of their profits come from software licencing to businesses. I've installed cracked versions of windows seven on all my family's computers and they've had no problems what so ever. Cracked versions of windows receive free updates in the same way that a copy purchased from an authorised reseller would do. That's how it worked from the time windows had online updates and that how it's going to be for windows 10.

Piracy might be immoral but it's not prosecuted, although illegal (at least that's what's like in most of the world). The receiving party is almost never on the wrong side of the law. Microsoft also doesn't go after pirates and people that distribute their software products without authorisation. At least not for those that do it in a small scale. So Vod, my suggestion is that you should tone it down a little bit. You're not Microsoft's guard dog are you? If such posts are allowed don't make people that post em have a bad time.

Why you stupid and would do not read the posts in this thread: [Vod] I need an explanation from him

Alright, relax. I'm just getting my thoughts out here while trying to help. Maybe Vod will reconsider if he hears the opinion of some other forum members as well.


Obviously the OP's English is not that great. I don't think he understood that you were basically questioning VOD's behavior and became defensive by default. After all, I personally don't blame him, does anyone ever really back anyone else up around here or is it usually more like a lottery for a weekly witch burning?
legendary
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March 22, 2015, 02:11:42 AM
#21
I don't see where the problem is. Microsoft does little to nothing for keys distributed from unauthorised resellers or even illegally. They never de-activate keys. Big part of their profits come from software licencing to businesses. I've installed cracked versions of windows seven on all my family's computers and they've had no problems what so ever. Cracked versions of windows receive free updates in the same way that a copy purchased from an authorised reseller would do. That's how it worked from the time windows had online updates and that how it's going to be for windows 10.

Piracy might be immoral but it's not prosecuted, although illegal (at least that's what's like in most of the world). The receiving party is almost never on the wrong side of the law. Microsoft also doesn't go after pirates and people that distribute their software products without authorisation. At least not for those that do it in a small scale. So Vod, my suggestion is that you should tone it down a little bit. You're not Microsoft's guard dog are you? If such posts are allowed don't make people that post em have a bad time.

Why you stupid and would do not read the posts in this thread: [Vod] I need an explanation from him

Alright, relax. I'm just getting my thoughts out here while trying to help. Maybe Vod will reconsider if he hears the opinion of some other forum members as well.

full member
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March 22, 2015, 01:49:36 AM
#20
Don't you understand, VOD has proclaimed himself dictator of what is good an bad on this site. Obey him or else! So sayeth the master.

I did leave him a comment -> Vod: Trust: 34: -1 / +18(18)

Hmm...He is working a lack of fairness and transparency (Why he did not check my key he gave me a feedback)


May I ask why you kept doing this to your sentences?
legendary
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March 22, 2015, 01:14:31 AM
#19
I don't see where the problem is. Microsoft does little to nothing for keys distributed from unauthorised resellers or even illegally. They never de-activate keys. Big part of their profits come from software licencing to businesses. I've installed cracked versions of windows seven on all my family's computers and they've had no problems what so ever. Cracked versions of windows receive free updates in the same way that a copy purchased from an authorised reseller would do. That's how it worked from the time windows had online updates and that how it's going to be for windows 10.

Piracy might be immoral but it's not prosecuted, although illegal (at least that's what's like in most of the world). The receiving party is almost never on the wrong side of the law. Microsoft also doesn't go after pirates and people that distribute their software products without authorisation. At least not for those that do it in a small scale. So Vod, my suggestion is that you should tone it down a little bit. You're not Microsoft's guard dog are you? If such posts are allowed don't make people that post em have a bad time.

Don't you understand, VOD has proclaimed himself dictator of what is good an bad on this site. Obey him or else! So sayeth the master.
legendary
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Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
March 22, 2015, 12:41:30 AM
#18
I don't see where the problem is. Microsoft does little to nothing for keys distributed from unauthorised resellers or even illegally. They never de-activate keys. Big part of their profits come from software licencing to businesses. I've installed cracked versions of windows seven on all my family's computers and they've had no problems what so ever. Cracked versions of windows receive free updates in the same way that a copy purchased from an authorised reseller would do. That's how it worked from the time windows had online updates and that how it's going to be for windows 10.

Piracy might be immoral but it's not prosecuted, although illegal (at least that's what's like in most of the world). The receiving party is almost never on the wrong side of the law. Microsoft also doesn't go after pirates and people that distribute their software products without authorisation. At least not for those that do it in a small scale. So Vod, my suggestion is that you should tone it down a little bit. You're not Microsoft's guard dog are you? If such posts are allowed don't make people that post em have a bad time.
legendary
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March 22, 2015, 12:24:12 AM
#17
Hello! everyone and Vod.

I'm not dealing with him anything here and why would you leave me a negative feedback ?

I never once scam any member of this forum, why do you say me scam they're ?

I would like an explanation from you ?

PS: My english is not good and hope everyone understands

[Trust]: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=382389

[TOPPIC]: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/closed-801840


It's illegal to sell MSDN keys I think, simple explanation.

And I think Vod works in Microsoft...

It is not illegal, it is against the Microsoft terms of service. That is a big difference.

Idk about that but read my other post where I quoted a guy saying that.
legendary
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March 22, 2015, 12:23:10 AM
#16
Hello! everyone and Vod.

I'm not dealing with him anything here and why would you leave me a negative feedback ?

I never once scam any member of this forum, why do you say me scam they're ?

I would like an explanation from you ?

PS: My english is not good and hope everyone understands

[Trust]: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=382389

[TOPPIC]: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/closed-801840


It's illegal to sell MSDN keys I think, simple explanation.

And I think Vod works in Microsoft...

It is not illegal, it is against the Microsoft terms of service. That is a big difference.
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March 22, 2015, 12:19:58 AM
#15
Due to ABitNot pointing out that MSDN keys are "illegal" he created problem for every MSDN seller.
legendary
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March 21, 2015, 11:58:25 PM
#14
No worries.  I'll listen for you tomorrow in church.  Tongue

Please do not shirk my question: Are you working lack of objectivity and fairness here...Right ?

What happened:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--710066
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/wts-microsoft-msdn-keys-trustedvouchedlongtime-seller-890692
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/deleted-822253

1. He received money from other sellers to stop me selling the key here (goal is to compete in the business)

2. He is working a lack of fairness and transparency (Why he did not check my key he gave me a feedback)


Why did you cross out all your points? Lol

Also god Vod(Sorry autocorrect)

No worries.  I'll listen for you tomorrow in church.  Tongue

Ha, it's already sunday here in australia Tongue
I just love people's sense of humour sometimes Smiley

EDIT: Wow, symantec. I couldn't believe you changed your signature to this thread's link!
Vod
legendary
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Licking my boob since 1970
March 21, 2015, 11:44:35 PM
#13
Also god Vod(Sorry autocorrect)

No worries.  I'll listen for you tomorrow in church.  Tongue
legendary
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March 21, 2015, 11:40:20 PM
#12
He is just warning people that in the future your keys would be banned, and that happening is very probable.

Also I see you previously denied that you didn't sell those keys but now you're saying you do?

The key I never blocked, All those who buy from me, I always guide them to use and warranty 100% and I sell the key here since January 22, 2014 and not have any problems occur.

I sent him three link in a message and I will see you working with a fair and impartial or not [If he does not do working with a fair and impartial, I would have thought for him following]: He received money from other sellers to stop me selling the key here (goal is to compete in the business)




I do not understand what you're trying to say... Are you saying you never blocked a key?

And what do you mean by fair and impartial?

Also god Vod(Sorry autocorrect) has neg trusted every other seller of those keys so he's not receiving money from other sellers.
Vod
legendary
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Licking my boob since 1970
March 21, 2015, 11:35:07 PM
#11
Dude, I'm just giving you a second chance.

Stop selling product keys immediately, and in one month I will remove the negative trust.

That's all I can offer.  Sad   Good luck to you.
legendary
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March 21, 2015, 11:33:52 PM
#10
So I take it you will continue to scam the Microsoft keys?   If so, don't come complaining later about your negative trust.   Undecided

1.  I'm not a scammer.

2. The key I never blocked, All those who buy from me, I always guide them to use and warranty 100% and I sell the key here since January 22, 2014 and not have any problems occur.

3. Are you working lack of objectivity and fairness here...Right ?

4. I sent you three link in a message and I will see you working with a fair and impartial or not?

PS: Why he did not check my key he gave me a feedback


He is just warning people that in the future your keys would be banned, and that happening is very probable.

Also I see you previously denied that you didn't sell those keys but now you're saying you do?
Vod
legendary
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Licking my boob since 1970
March 21, 2015, 11:28:56 PM
#9
symantec, it comes down to this.

Do you want to stop scamming people and have you negative trust removed?  Or would you rather continue to scam as much as you can with a negative rating?  It's your choice, my friend.

Hmm...The key I never blocked, All those who buy from me, I always guide them to use and warranty 100% and I sell the key here since January 22, 2014 and not have any problems occur.

PS: Why do not you look at the feedback from my customers and are you working lack of objectivity and fairness here

=> Of course I do not like people who scam and I'm not a scammer


So I take it you will continue to scam the Microsoft keys?   If so, don't come complaining later about your negative trust.   Undecided
legendary
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March 21, 2015, 11:28:32 PM
#8
symantec, it comes down to this.

Do you want to stop scamming people and have you negative trust removed?  Or would you rather continue to scam as much as you can with a negative rating?  It's your choice, my friend.

Hmm...The key I never blocked, All those who buy from me, I always guide them to use and warranty 100% and I sell the key here since January 22, 2014 and not have any problems occur.

PS: Why do not you look at the feedback from my customers and are you working lack of objectivity and fairness here


I don't think you get what Vod is saying: Selling this key is illegal and even if you deliver it to the customers, Microsoft has every right to ban those things that you sold to your customers.

Which is scamming.
Vod
legendary
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Licking my boob since 1970
March 21, 2015, 11:25:41 PM
#7
symantec, it comes down to this.

Do you want to stop scamming people and have you negative trust removed?  Or would you rather continue to scam as much as you can with a negative rating?  It's your choice, my friend.
legendary
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March 21, 2015, 11:15:54 PM
#6
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/closed-801840

You clearly state you sell Microsoft keys.  This is a SCAM, since as soon as your stolen/hacked MSDN subscription expires (are you going to pay to renew it?), all the keys you have sold will become invalid.

I give one chance to remove negative feedback.  Read my signature, clearly make it known you are not selling product keys, and in a month I will remove the negative feedback.  If you choose to continue selling scammy products, do not contact me in the future to remove negative feedback.  You will have to work to gain positive feedback from good trades with trusted members.

Hmm...The keys are not blocked and working lifetime.

When you give a feedback for me, why you did not check my keys and why you do not see the feedback from my customers

PS: Are you working lack of objectivity and fairness here...Right ?

I want to know why these people do not leave feedback for them and why was I while I do not sell the key MSDN


Your keys might be working yes, But it's not legal anymore as Vod said, that's the point.
Since your account are in red, the only choice you have is to do as Vod said, he stated the situation clearly.
Vod
legendary
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March 21, 2015, 11:13:47 PM
#5
Uhh I can't find the post where Vod said that he is a qualified Microsoft software engineer or something, but that's why he's giving you negative trust. Selling those keys are illegal and apparently a crime under federal laws(Quoted from someone, will try to find the source)

That is true, but I'm slightly less concerned with the legality of the keys as I am with the fact that one day everyone who has purchased will wake up and find their keys invalidated - i.e. they will have been SCAMMED.
legendary
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March 21, 2015, 11:11:48 PM
#4
Uhh I can't find the post where Vod said that he is a qualified Microsoft software engineer or something, but that's why he's giving you negative trust. Selling those keys are illegal and apparently a crime under federal laws(Quoted from someone, will try to find the source)

So you are selling your college's MSDN keys, and he is the screwed up one here? You realize that's not only a violation of Microsoft's TOS, but also a federal crime? What if someone were to contact one of your buyers, and acquire one of your sold keys? You realize how easy it is to track this, correct?
Vod
legendary
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March 21, 2015, 10:49:32 PM
#3
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/closed-801840

You clearly state you sell Microsoft keys.  This is a SCAM, since as soon as your stolen/hacked MSDN subscription expires (are you going to pay to renew it?), all the keys you have sold will become invalid.

I give one chance to remove negative feedback.  Read my signature, clearly make it known you are not selling product keys, and in a month I will remove the negative feedback.  If you choose to continue selling scammy products, do not contact me in the future to remove negative feedback.  You will have to work to gain positive feedback from good trades with trusted members.

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