Topic: Vod is a liar & extortionist. Get him out of DT! - page 3. (Read 24409 times)

Since Vod has already left the forum, can we please put an end to this endless hate? Usually when the person in question is no more (either by casualty or by choice) there is no reason to keep on the hate going.

I am not taking any sides but it makes no sense fighting against a non-existent member of the forum.

Believe it or not… There are still DT users supporting Vod’s harassment and extortion attempt… Total failure of the default trust network.

Ya, I get a ton of support in PMs and through outside channels.  People are just afraid to speak up here because as you can see, there are malicious actors that are hell bent on gaining influence and are unable to do so by creating anything of value, so they focus on statistics and lash out at others in the hopes it makes them relevant.  Even after I ignore these completely useless users they continue to beg for my attention (see above).  Sadly, there are more trolls than developers on bitcointalk these days so this is what we have to deal with as a community.  Hopefully my 10 BTC donation to bitcointalk will lead to a block feature at some point.

Now that Vod's behavior with his latest extortion attempt is so blatantly illegal and wrong, they can only say I'm making it up to defend their continued attacks against me...  We all know I wouldn't lie about a PM (if not, put your money where your mouth is and let's bet on it) and I'm sure not even the people stating it believe that, but their combined malicious behavior towards me is so based on fantasy that all they can do to defend themselves now is deny their behavior and say I'm making it up.  Feel free to have the validity of my posted PM from Vod verified by the Administration if you want.  I won't hold my breath for those making the accusations I'm lying to ever apologize or do anything to verify their claims, because they already know they're wrong and I'm telling the truth and they try to spread mistrust anyway.  

As for people not liking me...  The opposite of love is indifference.  You should try hitting that ignore button if that's the case.  Feels more like you're obsessed with me than indifferent to be honest.

A lot of members here do like OG and think of him as an helpful man with an heart of his own.

Sorry to say, but you are totally off the line here thinking that VOD is not at all wrong in sending all those PMs and threat's and in the contrary, OG is a bad actor for not ignoring what's coming at him.

Blatant school bullying is for real here.


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FYI, I was referring to this behaviors as bullying and not being specific to you.




Anyways, I read everything clearly.

I'm going to make this reply, and then I'm going to bow out of this thread for good so as not to contribute to its continued existence.

Vod, as far as I can remember (and I could be wrong; if I am, please correct me) never said he had any incriminating evidence of tax evasion/fraud, scamming, or what have you against Theymos or BAC.  The only thing I remember clearly is that he did say he was compiling evidence of OgNasty's alleged crimes and would present said evidence.  He never did.

Vod isn't going to win any lawsuit against any of the above individuals with respect to contributing to, or causing directly, his stroke.  That just isn't going to happen.  And I seriously doubt that Vod is even going to go as far as trying to get a case like that into the court system.  Hopefully Vod isn't too far gone to realize that there's no way in hell he could prove that anything anyone has written on an internet forum, in a PM, or whatever, led to him having a stroke.  I'm pretty sure that would set a legal precedent.

Against OgNasty, yes, IF he's really got evidence of criminal activity.  Again, I don't recall Vod ever stating he had any dirt on BAC or Theymos, nor do I think he actually does.  Are you seriously going to criticize me for wanting someone exposed for being a criminal if there's evidence to that effect?  Get your head straight, my man.  Having said that, I don't think Vod really has anything on OgNasty, else he wouldn't have been just making all of those threats before he left the forum and wouldn't be PM'ing similar threats now.  I already said I don't support Vod's PM, in case you missed it:


Wow, that's some conclusion you've jumped to.  Dude, the forum is not in jeopardy.  I don't like the justice system any more than you do, but it's what we all have to work with whether we like it or not.  I'm fairly sure if someone committed a crime against your person or property or against someone you care about, you'd have no problem whatsoever using that system to bring the perpetrator(s) to justice.  

I'm also fairly sure that the justice system realizes that strokes aren't caused by words on the internet (and I'd hope Vod's lawyer wouldn't waste his/her time on a case like that).  But that's not even what I was referring to anyway.  I'm not going to repeat it; read the above where I talked about OgNasty, prosecution, and only if there's solid evidence of a scam (tax evasion in the US is none of Vod's business anyway).

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Did you even read my posts above in their entirety?  Or at least the parts where I said I don't support Vod's PMs, meaning I think he was in the wrong in sending them?  By the way, I've never had a problem with you and still don't.  You can like OgNasty if you want to, and I can dislike him if I want.  I'm in no way bullying OgNasty, believe me.  Obviously you either didn't read what I wrote, didn't understand it, or chose to read into it what you wanted to. 

We are really going to act now as if we don’t know how to prove the legitimacy of PMs?
As if it hasn’t been done 500 gorrilian times before..

Yeah, let’s just assume it’s a complete fabrication..

I have no idea if the PM you posted is legitimate.

Either way, I was really hoping that both Vod and you would be able to move on with your lives. I am disappointed that it looks like that is not going to happen.

I’m not sure about how collectible OG or BAC are, but theymos and this forum surely are.. I’m sure you noticed him also named here..

You wish him luck?

If theymos can somehow be found liable by some corrupt government in being implicit with the cause of Vods stroke, good luck for taking him (and satoshis forum) for all their worth!!
Aren’t governments just awesome!!

Not surprising..
This isn’t the first time Vod has threatened to come after the forum funds, like last time when he was trying to sick the government on the vast forum escrow when it was in the sole control of OG, and y’all didn’t seem to care then either..

Damn..
Y’all are blinded by hate, ALL over that piece of shit extortionist lauda, LOL..

Well, a lot of members here just don't like you--including myself, which I'm sure you're aware of, and if you weren't I just told you.  That's how you talk to someone directly (on the internet at least).  As far as Vod's PM, since BAC posted a screenshot of it I'm pretty sure it's valid.  It's obvious Vod feels aggrieved by members like you, though I wouldn't blame anyone on this forum for his stroke and if I were him and had real evidence of wrongdoing on your part or the part of anyone else here, I'd cut out the personal communication entirely and just go through the legal system.  So as far as his communication to you and BAC and whoever else, I don't support it--even though I can't stand you.  BAC I don't have a problem with, and I'm not sure what he's done.

As I said, I don't support that PM.  Vod is obviously not right in the head and very, very obviously not the same Vod of a few years ago, even if you and he were feuding for as long as I can remember.  It's a shame, IMO, but his status on DT has to do with the feedbacks he's left over the years, not with a PM he just sent you.  I know you'll be deaf to this, but inclusion/exclusion from trust lists is supposed to do with the accuracy of the feedback left for other members.  Whether you trust/distrust someone should be reflected with a positive or negative feedback.  You should know that.

I don't have any animosity towards you, but I do doubt your honesty and integrity.


Not even a little white lie?  Not even misrepresenting the returns from NastyFans by calculating them in different currencies?  I find that hard to believe, and thus much of what you say will be taken with equal skepticism.


I haven't seen anyone excuse Vod's behavior, but given his health issues and the subsequent mental state he's more likely to receive our empathy.  Many here have replied to him about his use of the trust system and specifically about this drama between you two, often expressing how damaging it is to the forum and also to his own health.

But once again you choose to convolute reality to paint yourself as the victim, a relatively unsympathetic one in my opinion.  As Nutilah said, you've been given the opportunity to let this drama die, but for the last four months that Vod was gone you continuously bumped this thread just to twist the knife.  Kind of pathetic when it's all put into perspective.  

It’s pointless drama for me too. We all know Vod is a liar who is not going to be able to do anything. It is right of me to make his extortion attempt public though. Clearly he doesn’t belong in DT and when someone tries to extort someone for millions of dollars it isn’t wrong to make it known. The fact people seem angry at me for doing so says a lot about them. Again, I’ve done nothing wrong here so it makes it easy to see who is in the wrong.

That's not how you report PMs. 10+ years on the forum and still illiterate as ever.

Dear diary, today I've got a new mail from Vod....

Indeed, Og, it's not about taking sides between you or Vod. But (for long!) this is only between you, Vod and maybe mods and theymos. For the rest of us it's just pointless drama...

Report it to theymos you giant baby. Nobody here cares.

Like I said…

At least it’s obvious who is blinded by hate when reporting harassment is met with such animosity. I’ve never lied and obviously the quotes I post are real. The only unbelievable thing is that there are people here who continue to pretend that Vod’s behavior is ok and I’m in the wrong for making others aware of it.

It's a shame that neither of you can be reasonable enough to let it go and move on, but stop bothering us with your personal affairs.

For however much you think you're embarrassing Vod, you're embarrassing yourself equally, if not more.

Once again you had the opportunity to be the bigger man and failed to take it.

If none of what Vod wrote matters, why not just ignore it?

I don't doubt that Vod sent you a PM today, but nothing else about this episode is believable.  Especially not the supposed quotes of supposed PMs.  Sorry dude, but you strike me as a bold-faced liar.  You've done this to yourself with your constant attempts to deform reality.

You know, I was going to question the provenance of the PM but thought the question would be scoffed at (or ignored).  Perhaps I should have.  How does one go about proving a PM is genuine when it's quoted in a thread?

Maybe I should have kept silent as well, but I can't say I'm not curious as to whether Vod really did send OgNasty that statement and that part about Zepher struck a chord with me, so I made my post.  So be it.  And I also can't stand the vague accusations against people Og refuses to name for reasons known only to him.

You're making a lot of assumptions based on something that was posted by OgNasty. I know for a fact that he often misquotes, misrepresents, omits context, or just blatantly lies about private communications, not to mention the nasty (pun intended) stuff he sends to others. Best ignore it and not feed the troll at this point.

Again, not naming names and leaving the community to guess at what the fuck you're talking about.  Who specifically is enabling Vod to do whatever he's doing?  Is anyone on this forum responsible for his behavior or helping him in any way?  Seems to me that he's doing everything on his own--and that's the conclusion I'll draw unless you name names.

Did Zepher really die of an overdose?  How is that related to any of this?  That's not a question for you, OgNasty, since your answers don't mean a thing to me, but it was mentioned in that PM.

If Vod really does sue you, he might not get all that money for all those causes, but if he's got evidence against you like he says he does (and I have no idea whether that's true), I wish him all the luck in the world.  If he's got no evidence, then hopefully he won't go through with any legal action against you.  Fair is fair.