Nobody is against multisig and both the forum funds and myself have never been safer.
Can we keep this thread on topic? We’re discussing Vod being a confirmed liar here.
Topic: Vod is a liar & extortionist. Get him out of DT! - page 47. (Read 24409 times)
The jealousy I’ve encountered for holding that position alone has been so toxic, I would welcome others joining me in that responsibility at this point. It would feel like a target has been taken off my back.
I don't think it is jealousy. I think some people believe you are willing to take money off the top when you are holding money for others, because that is exactly what they do, and they want part of that action.
When it was well known I was holding a large amount of money on behalf of someone else, I received extortion threats asking for the exact amount I was holding, even though it had been well known I personally owed an even larger number of coins at the time.
It is my belief that these people believe you will be willing to part ways with money you are holding for other people and the "jealousy" you are seeing is actually a setup for an extortion attempt, if you have not already received extortion threats for the amount of money you are holding.
The people who are saying that Theymos should switch to multi sig are secretly trying to extort the forum funds from OG? Please explain how that would work when multiple people need to sign the signature.
OgN currently holds the only key to the 500 BTC he is holding for the forum, and there have not been any serious calls for forum funds to be held in a multisig address. What is being said about OgN is not unlike what was said about zeroaxl before he was extorted. The primary difference is that zeroaxl was privately accused of a bunch of BS, while OgN is being publicly accused of the same.
No I am not, that is exactly what you said. Regarding the whole Xeroxal extortion, it was stated up front that financial gain was not the incentive. Even Xeroxal said that he believes it was done with "good intent" (which doesn't mean that it wasn't a bad move).
OgN currently holds the only key to the 500 BTC he is holding for the forum, and there have not been any serious calls for forum funds to be held in a multisig address.
Yes there have, many times. Cobra addressed it back in 2014:
Has anything been done to make sure that in the event of another treasurer's death, their BTC also won't be lost?
It was suggested in 2014 after Paraipan disappeared/died:
It sounds like a good idea to me.
According to this thread https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/forum-funds-155000, the forum fund is currently held by 5 persons (incl. paraipan) and theymos.
What about putting the forum fund in several 2-of-3 addresses (3 parties being Treasurer 1, Treasurer 2 and theymos).
According to this thread https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/forum-funds-155000, the forum fund is currently held by 5 persons (incl. paraipan) and theymos.
What about putting the forum fund in several 2-of-3 addresses (3 parties being Treasurer 1, Treasurer 2 and theymos).
Lauda suggested it to Theymos in 2016:
1 of the BTCT fund holders (forgot his name) died/disappeared and I believe those funds were lost. Multisig is a safer way to store the funds imo.
I've suggested this to theymos sometime in 2016. Even though he was in favor of the idea, he still did not do anything about it AFAIK. I don't even know who the remaining treasurers are? There are plenty of other posts/topics made about it. A lot of research has been put into the whole Paraipan mystery and it could've all been prevented by using multi sig (https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5135232). Some people might use the topic to attack OG but it is a very valid point. I am not under the assumption that OG would ever attempt to steal the funds but why would Theymos risk over $3,500,000 by not upgrading to multi sig? As far as I am aware OG is not immortal and freak accidents happen every day.
The jealousy I’ve encountered for holding that position alone has been so toxic, I would welcome others joining me in that responsibility at this point. It would feel like a target has been taken off my back.
I don't think it is jealousy. I think some people believe you are willing to take money off the top when you are holding money for others, because that is exactly what they do, and they want part of that action.
When it was well known I was holding a large amount of money on behalf of someone else, I received extortion threats asking for the exact amount I was holding, even though it had been well known I personally owed an even larger number of coins at the time.
It is my belief that these people believe you will be willing to part ways with money you are holding for other people and the "jealousy" you are seeing is actually a setup for an extortion attempt, if you have not already received extortion threats for the amount of money you are holding.
The people who are saying that Theymos should switch to multi sig are secretly trying to extort the forum funds from OG? Please explain how that would work when multiple people need to sign the signature.
OgN currently holds the only key to the 500 BTC he is holding for the forum, and there have not been any serious calls for forum funds to be held in a multisig address. What is being said about OgN is not unlike what was said about zeroaxl before he was extorted. The primary difference is that zeroaxl was privately accused of a bunch of BS, while OgN is being publicly accused of the same.
The jealousy I’ve encountered for holding that position alone has been so toxic, I would welcome others joining me in that responsibility at this point. It would feel like a target has been taken off my back.
I don't think it is jealousy. I think some people believe you are willing to take money off the top when you are holding money for others, because that is exactly what they do, and they want part of that action.
When it was well known I was holding a large amount of money on behalf of someone else, I received extortion threats asking for the exact amount I was holding, even though it had been well known I personally owed an even larger number of coins at the time.
It is my belief that these people believe you will be willing to part ways with money you are holding for other people and the "jealousy" you are seeing is actually a setup for an extortion attempt, if you have not already received extortion threats for the amount of money you are holding.
The people who are saying that Theymos should switch to multi sig are secretly trying to extort the forum funds from OG? Please explain how that would work when multiple people need to sign the signature.
look whos supporting this idiot Vod, "the gang"
liars are brothers of thieves,ill leave it here.
liars are brothers of thieves,ill leave it here.
Yes, at this point I think the best thing to do is to leave Vod negative trust as stated is appropriate by theymos and then wait for theymos to clean house in DT.
look whos supporting this idiot Vod, "the gang"
liars are brothers of thieves,ill leave it here.
liars are brothers of thieves,ill leave it here.
The jealousy I’ve encountered for holding that position alone has been so toxic, I would welcome others joining me in that responsibility at this point. It would feel like a target has been taken off my back.
I don't think it is jealousy. I think some people believe you are willing to take money off the top when you are holding money for others, because that is exactly what they do, and they want part of that action.
When it was well known I was holding a large amount of money on behalf of someone else, I received extortion threats asking for the exact amount I was holding, even though it had been well known I personally owed an even larger number of coins at the time.
It is my belief that these people believe you will be willing to part ways with money you are holding for other people and the "jealousy" you are seeing is actually a setup for an extortion attempt, if you have not already received extortion threats for the amount of money you are holding.
This thread will never die. Og can't take "not winning" so he'll never lock it... I stay away from this shit mostly now even though Og continues to call me a scammer/extortionist, which is a flat-out lie made up by quickscammer. 
You two legal eagles crack me up. Confirm facebook to get sued for "defamation libel".
Yeah. How does nothing regarding Vod's "tax fraud report" crack you up? I see you always badmouth everybody involved except Vod, even if Vod was being at least as silly as others.
Why don't you piss off and put me on ignore if that represents a problem for you. I have already stated that I disagree with the doxing and reporting to IRS, do I have to do it preemptively in every fucking thread that you're gonna visit?
You two legal eagles crack me up. Confirm facebook to get sued for "defamation libel".
Yeah. How does nothing regarding Vod's "tax fraud report" crack you up? I see you always badmouth everybody involved except Vod, even if Vod was being at least as silly as others.
Regarding others IP addy talks....
IP addresses are worth nothing unless LE is doing the investigation. Also, a link between IP address and a physical person is always very weak.
Vod is a big mouth always lying when searching to escape from his blatant lies and abuse.
I will send tomorrow AGAIN a request on his facebook profil to please confirm that he is Vod on bitcointalk.
Last time he refused playing games like he gave proof who he is where in reality he gave horseshit which could be used for a clear identification by law.
I will send tomorrow AGAIN a request on his facebook profil to please confirm that he is Vod on bitcointalk.
Last time he refused playing games like he gave proof who he is where in reality he gave horseshit which could be used for a clear identification by law.
Once this is confirmed, I wouldn’t mind getting the information to my lawyer to pursue a defamation libel lawsuit.
You two legal eagles crack me up. Confirm facebook to get sued for "defamation libel".
Vod's dox is all over the intertubes. Thule's been talking shit for months and hasn't produced even a letter from his imaginary lawyer. If any of you actually talked to a lawyer the first thing you'd be told is to stop posting this nonsense on Bitcointalk.
Well a response would certainly settle the who is right and ho is wrong debate. I'll wait I guess.
And I will accept responsibility for the outcome if I am wrong. I just hope all those people who trust OG now will also do the correct thing if I am right.
Interesting responses. I'll keep watching how the events unfold in the background.
I'll post if/when I receive a response from the IRS. Other than that, events don't involve this forum any further. :/Sorry Lauda, but be patient and trust he will get what is coming to him.
Interesting responses. I'll keep watching how the events unfold in the background.
I'll post if/when I receive a response from the IRS. Other than that, events don't involve this forum any further. :/
Sorry Lauda, but be patient and trust he will get what is coming to him.
..being arrested for perjury..
Sidebar: If I believe somebody is evading taxes, and I report them and it turns out that I was wrong I'd get arrested for perjury over there? Or are you referring to some other parts of this.. thread/thing/whatever is going on?That's what my report was based on. Was OG lying when he wrote that, and how would he prove I knew he was lying? How would he show I claimed I was getting a reward? How would he know what form I was told to use? Or will he just state we misunderstood his cherry picked words... again?
Interesting responses. I'll keep watching how the events unfold in the background. What a fucking nonsense you claim.How is somebody going to proof in court its your IP and not from your buddy or an unknown person?
Ask your lawyer. You have no clue how the internet works.
I will send tomorrow AGAIN a request on his facebook profil to please confirm that he is Vod on bitcointalk.
Last time he refused playing games like he gave proof who he is where in reality he gave horseshit which could be used for a clear identification by law.
Last time he refused playing games like he gave proof who he is where in reality he gave horseshit which could be used for a clear identification by law.
Just have your lawyer ping my IP address, idiot. You already played this game with me months? ago.
What a fucking nonsense you claim.How is somebody going to proof in court its your IP and not from your buddy or an unknown person?
So difficult to confim with your facebook profil where you reply to everyones comment there?
I guess everyone can see now what a big mouth you are denying to provide real proof of your person which can be used in a lawsuite.
And I can't find part where you claimed what OG said you did.
Of course not. He changed "could qualify" to "claim" and hoped people would ignore that.
So you don’t even believe your bullshit enough to put your own name on the claim? Even you acknowledge you’re a liar. That might save you criminally, but not civilly.
And I can't find part where you claimed what OG said you did.
Of course not. He changed "could qualify" to "claim" and hoped people would ignore that.
Vod is a big mouth always lying when searching to escape from his blatant lies and abuse.
I will send tomorrow AGAIN a request on his facebook profil to please confirm that he is Vod on bitcointalk.
Last time he refused playing games like he gave proof who he is where in reality he gave horseshit which could be used for a clear identification by law.
I will send tomorrow AGAIN a request on his facebook profil to please confirm that he is Vod on bitcointalk.
Last time he refused playing games like he gave proof who he is where in reality he gave horseshit which could be used for a clear identification by law.
Once this is confirmed, I wouldn’t mind getting the information to my lawyer to pursue a defamation libel lawsuit.
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