Topic: Vod's Change - page 2. (Read 1395 times)

@Vod - I had no idea about the issues mentioned in the OP or the background issues going back further. I will take the opportunity to wish you good health. Sorry to read about all the things that happened to you. Stay positive and do as many things as you can with your time as long as brings you happiness.


Me too, I am looking forward to the new website/project whenever it is ready. Wish you success. And I concur, life is too short so for anybody to find something they enjoy doing is important. I hope you find happiness in whatever you decide to do and thankfully we will be seeing you around here too. If you handed BPIP over who is running it now?


An excellent post. I would like to extend those same sentiments. DireWolfM14 summed it up well, just do what you need to do as long as it makes you enjoy your time.

I told Theymos from the start what happened to me.   The night I posted dox on the forum was one of the first times I'd "had a few" at home since the stroke.  I literally went unconscious in my chair after posting that, and when I awoke in the morning I deleted the post and worked with Theymos to clean up the damage.  I've never gotten drunk since - two beers at a social function is my absolute limit.  This may explain why Theymos suggested forgiveness.

I'm sorry if my initial post sounded like I was joining Theymos Vader.  Again, I believe Theymos feels the good that people do can outweigh the bad.  I feel the same way, but for me the "bad" does not decay and builds up.   I want to forgive faster, like he does.

I likewise had no inkling that you'd suffered a stroke.  A work colleague had one at work and another person I know also had a stroke - both were quite debilitating.  If you're still able to be an active participant of the forum after a stroke then you are very fortunate indeed.  Please keep us updated on your progress.

I've been baffled by the power plays that have gone on year after year here - it seems people woke up on abut the 3rd of January this year and said "you know what? I think I've had enough of the bickering" which has been refreshing to see.

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As to the comment to you concerning signatures:

It'll be interesting to see whether the ones getting paid $6 per post for their bile are going to be able to find things to talk about constructively, or struggle as their cash for comments dry-up.

So Vod, with your newfound change, when do you plan on removing your abusive trust ratings since you are all turning over a new leaf and everything?

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thx eddie13... that was quite unexpected from you.    I appreciate it!

@Vod, I had no idea you had a stroke last year, man I'm sorry to hear that.  I'm glad to hear you are recovering, and I sincerely wish you the best of health.

I also had no idea you have worked as a cop.  I know from experience that LEOs have a hard time with trust.  I watched as a very close family friend alienated his children, and went years without seeing them.  This weight heavy on his heart and mind until he finally was able to see his own roll and responsibilities in his family's relationship.  This wasn't until years after retirement, and only a few years before his death.

Life is too short to take things so seriously, and this is just the internet after all.  If what TMAN said is accurate, that you plan on renting a boat, do it!  Go fishing, catch some sun, knock back a few cold ones, and enjoy your time.

I hope to see you around for years to come.

I'm not going to cut your OP to pieces here, but rather I'd like to commend you on your conclusion to agree to disagree..

You being a cop, law enforcement, government authority, held the monopoly on force and violence, while theymos is an Anarchist, I can imagine that their are many things you would disagree on..

I only recently learned of your stroke a week or 2 ago, ish..
It explained a lot to me as far as your actions, and I am truly sorry it happened to you..

#Respect and I hope that you can end your battles with your perceived enemies over your philosophical differences..

If you dont trust the admin,who the fuck would trust you? compare to him you are a piece of shit just like your colleagues.

Theymos is not "ok with theft". This is simply a mischaracterization to place the blame on Theymos for the tendency of certain users here to abuse the trust system arbitrarily and in a manner that is targeting specific users rather than the alleged crimes themselves. He, rightly so sees the abuse of the trust system over petty matters to be counterproductive and antithetical to the mission of the trust system and the forum itself. This idea that he is "ok with theft" is simply a manipulative ploy to try to pressure him into allowing these users abusing the trust system to do so in an unrestricted manner and to shift the blame from the abusers to Theymos. Vod painted himself into a corner here, now he is grasping for any straw he can to excuse his behavior.

If he is OK with theft as long as nobody loses an eye... then why is he banning people for plagiarism?

Something doesn't add up.

Yep, he only likes starting fights. He likes to "end" them only when he has what he wants, and before he suffers any repercussions, and then wants no further discussion of the matter. Of course this is just a temporary measure until his compulsions inevitably get the better of him again and he reverts to his previous abusive and antagonistic behavior within a few weeks, as demonstrated by his previous claims of "taking a break" in the past.

I'm glad you've decided to move on to things that you like again, life's too short to fight on the internet

I'm looking forward to your new site.

Whether theymos is more forgiving or not is one thing, but I sincerely hope that he does not view theft this way. IMO, theft causes harm in more ways than one. It has been my understanding that it is not moderated to prevent a false sense of security. If he truly does believe that theft does not create any harm, then I need to question my own involvement with this forum, because that's a destructive attitude... and one that would make Craig Wright look like a genius saint.

Now I guess there are different levels of theft... but theymos bans for stealing text (plagiarism), so I have to think he doesn't like theft. And I have to assume anything worse than that is also against his philosophies, but can't be easily moderated or will provide people a false sense of security when it comes to financial dealings.

People shouldn't be stealing from others in our own community in any way, there are enough governments, politicians, bankers, etc. who steal from their people constantly. We shouldn't be doing it to each other. And anyone that philosophically supports this is, IMO, a damage to this community, or really any community they are a part of.

(My fortune cookie yesterday prepared me for this lol)
"It is better to be the head of a chicken, than the tail of an ox."
I looked it up yesterday just to figure out wtf it even meant because, well, fortune cookies are funny sometimes... but it made a good point.

TMAN, I told you enormous time to stop your poetry on me. Seems like your way of dealing people is very much different than me and it's fine but if you really need to have a conversation with me then be in the same gentlemanship boat as I am or you are always welcome not to pick my posts and leave your ideology there.

I do not like anyone swearing on me. I hope I made it clear now.

I am not good at frying sausage and it's not necessary that one has to do it. Besides frying things, there are more to this forum and I am sure you already found few. There will be agreement and disagreement but as long as you will be enjoying your time, your time counts.

Peace buddy and seeing you around.

I'm not taking a break from the forum, just from frying big sausages here.    Going to stick mostly to machine learning and crypto trending.   This forum will continue to be one of my resources.  

#2020peace

I think theymos is doing his best to run this community without pushing his personal phylosopy to the community. If he and his team (mods and other staffs) were to involve in every scam and spam that happpens in the community then we would not see any difference between how a state works and how a community that believe in decentralisation works.

We do not need anyone giving us rules to obey and the enforcement team to protect the given rules. Being with law enforcement for years might made you to follow some decepline but there are more to explore in the world where deceplite in the last thing it needs.

Sorry to hear that after all these years you discovered that your interest does not suit this community. Some of your works helped this community to move forward back in the days. Enjoy your break time.

Right, now its Theymos's fault too. Funny, this kind of thread seems familiar, almost like you do it every time you go too far to elicit sympathy and escape repercussions for your actions, every single time returning to repeat the exact same abusive behavior.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1074434.0;all

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/why-im-taking-a-break-for-a-few-weeks-5144112

The same old sad children's party magician doing all the same old sad tricks, and getting mad at the kids who point out you can't really pull quarters out of your ears. You attack attack and attack endlessly, then when it bites you in the ass you play a victim, run away for a little bit, and resume the exact same behavior. Of course you want to be the victim while the victimization you subjected others to still stands and hope everyone just forgets and you get to keep the little lies and vendettas you have collected.

You can do all the things you want to serve the community without any power within the trust system, which you belong nowhere near as you have very clearly demonstrated. Of course that is not what you really value most, serving the community, you value the authority over others that you are free to lord over people, and lash out compulsively to serve your own personal impulses.

I am sorry to hear that. My words may have sounded insincere because I suspected you were not the real VOD.

I have locked the other thread. I wish all non scamming members well. You have done a lot of good and helped a lot of people in the past.

I know when things are personal it can be very hurtful, especially if you have previously tried your best to help others and do the right thing. I honestly believe in a lot of cases There is just a misunderstanding that grows out of hand. I personally believe you fell in with the wrong crowd but we need not discuss that further.

Rest up and enjoy your life. When objective transparent standards are introduced the fighting will be greatly reduced. The evironment will become less toxic.

Well done for not selling out though. Lack of greed is something one must marvel at in these times.

Vod, you are cool and an asset to this place.

Ignore the Pajeets and haters, imagine them using their tears as wanking lubricant and have a drink/joint/line and know that you are worth 10x the haters.

chill out more and remember life is a beautiful thing brother!

Vod, I think you deserve a break.
For what it's worth, this is just my opinion.
I wouldn't consider myself to have much of a high impact on this forum but I've surely been watching Vod throughout my years here.

I remember you keeping a spotless record in busting scams for years. Even from the early days, being notorious for categorically denying newbies no collateral loans, having the patience to explain each and every time.

I find the work on BPIP admirable and I'm really appreciative the efforts you put to give back to the community of this forum.
But recently I had noticed that more and more members were caught in spats with you, with no intention of backing down.

I tend to agree with theymos on not regulating potential scams and allowing maximum free speech. I also find his thought process on forgiveness reasonable, although I had expressed my views that any guidance on preferred use of trust system would likely fall on deaf ears. The reason I tend to agree with being forgiving, is that if every forum member just couldn't let go ever, and instead was taking issues they came across personally, then nobody would have been doing anything. No BPIP, no loyceV stats tracking. No creativity, no fun! Only spats...

And I won't lie. I tend to dislike how much insistence from your side at times had contributed to dragging the continuation of some (in my view avoidable) spats for years. But for one, I think you deserve a break because I can't wait to see what the project after BPIP is going to be. Don't be distracted by the liars, the deceivers and the cheats anymore Vod. Godspeed to your new adventures and may they bring you more enjoyment other than stress.