Topic: Wagering requirements for withdraw - page 21. (Read 4805 times)

Most is laziness for sure, thinking that they are already good in understanding the rules but still getting scam or being stuck because of huge wagering requirements as they did not read everything under the terms and agreement, I agree that even experienced gamblers can still suffer from same mistake and will also undergo with working along the site support team.

If you are lucky, you'll be able to solve it, but if not, you will accept the fact that it was in the rules that you needed to follow.

Trustdice requires a 5x wagering requirement for withdrawals without any bonuses, just like the Betfury platform. Last year, I deposited money and did not receive any bonuses. When I reached the 1x wagering requirement and requested a withdrawal, they said that sports betting also required a 5x wagering requirement. Then when I finally met the 5x requirement, they asked for KYC verification, and I argued with customer service about why they didn't mention it earlier. After completing the 5x wagering and KYC during our dispute, their customer service suddenly closed our chat window. They did it! I guarantee!!! This is an absurd company. I contacted customer service again to say that I don't want to withdraw anymore because even if kyced in their company there is no certainty of being able to withdraw later on. So I told them directly that I don't want it anymore anyway since at most i will lose my deposit amount which is between $200-300.

This has been talked about a lot before, and indeed the main reason many have problems is that people are lazy to read it or they think the rules in every casino are the same, even though things are very different.
Indeed, reviews can be faked, but we can sort that out and see how many give positive reviews and how many give negative reviews. It can be a reference for us, although in the end we have to check it first. However, for reputable casinos, especially those on this forum, it can be recommended.

That's right, It's a term that they put to make you agree on. This is why reading T&C of a casino is important so you won't have any problem with the casino upon withdrawing. But yeah I think it's bit unfair to ask players to wager 5x the amount before withdrawing. I personally won't play on a casino if I saw this kind of rule. I understand that there are such things to do to avoid illegal things like money laundering but 5x is just so high for me, 2-3x is enough I believe to avoid players to do money laundering in their casino. I hope casinos won't resort into this kind of high wagering requirements just to avoid money laundering.

If you see such a paragraph in the rules of a gambling site, it doesn't mean that this is a scam casino. Of course, such a requirement from a casino is absolutely unpleasant for users, especially if a user makes a deposit without reading the terms and conditions.
Unfortunately, the trend is that many other gambling sites have roughly the same requirements, and x5 is not so much. It seems to me there are two reasons why gambling sites add mandatory wagering requirements. First of all, they want users to spend as much money as possible on their sites, and they also want to prevent cheaters from using their platforms for money laundering.

Wait, do you mean to with bigger bankroll to wager the same amount as the $20 deposit with $100 to wager?
The idea of this topic is related to deposit with wagering requirement, means that the bigger you deposit = the bigger amount you need to wager.
I think I have provided you a simple example, but it seems that you still dont get what is the main idea of this topic.
One more thing, this is also not about wagering requirement for promotions, but purely for deposit without any bonus.

Let's say the scenario or calculation as you say.
Let's say we deposit $20 and get a 5x wagering requirement so we have to wager $100, but we find it difficult to reach a $100 wagering requirement and even all that $20 is used up before we can reach a $100 wager.
How can we withdraw the money if all our money is gone?
But if our bankroll is greater than $100 or even $1,000, maybe it won't be difficult to reach the bet because we have a large bankroll.
Maybe I don't understand the mathematical difficulty, so I think it's simple.
Usually, a wagering requirement comes with the promotions so maybe it is better not to chase the promotions and check the requirement first before applying.

Reading the ToS is a recommendation required by every gambler to understand the rules in each casino.
The casinos have different rules so we need to adjust to the rules and try to follow them so we don't experience difficulties later.
If the promotion from the casino does not require betting requirements, we can participate in it, but if not, we should think again about participating in the promotion and always adjust it according to our balance.
Thus we won't complain when we find out that casinos have high wagering requirements because we know it before.

I don't think there can be a bigger mistake than a gambler using a martingale strategy in a game where the chances for the house to win are way more than themselves, but not reading the terms and conditions is an even bigger mistake than one should never make. It only takes up a few minutes of your time and can save you a lot of time and money.

Most people try new platforms with the hope of getting some bonus with their deposit and then maybe gambling their way to the top and withdrawing some, which barely happens due to the wagering requirements of the platforms.

Never play on this scam casino

https://trustdice.win/terms

Terms & Conditions

1. General
5. Withdrawals
5.10 In order to make a withdrawal, a player must wager 5x from the deposit amount.

I have to look for it,and when I find it I share it with you, no problem, when I saw and found out about it I didn't even Bother to enter it because it doesn't make sense,that for me in the end will become a scam casino, I have also I have Seen in other Threads that there is another casino that demands 100x, that is out of my limits, actually I am very honest,I am not capable,if nothing else with the 1x requirement sometimes I fail, now a 100x that is something that no, it doesn't go with me Anymore,so I avoid it.

^This is a very important factor when using any casino, don't forget to read TOS before anything else even though they offer bonuses, because gambling casino does not offer bonuses that don't have a wagering requirement. This can help to prevent any misunderstandings or difficulties when trying to withdraw winnings. Because some casinos may have higher wagering requirements than others, and it is up to the player to decide what is reasonable for them.

There are casinos or platforms which do give out some option on the time that you do make out some deposits whether those bonuses would be automatically be applied into your account balance or would really be that possibly be having a choice whether you would be activating it or not which it would really be that a common approach or to those old gamblers would be choosing on having no bonuses or whatsoever because
we've been pretty aware on what we are dealing with and its not something im interested either considering that wagering requirement is really that too high.

Whether we are talking about deposit bonuses or simply with other promotional then it would really be that subject on the specific rollover requirement. If you dont have any experience or awareness on what it is,
then  you would be looking that they are really that generous considering on the bonus or numbers they've been giving out but on the time that you would be busting up all of your balance
then this is where self realization would kick in and would having those thoughts that its never been that worth on getting those bonuses.

Here things can be seen in a simple way because anyone says, I bet 20usd and it is easy to reach 100usd, but sometimes things are not so difficult, to reach that amount many things must be done, also before I had the confusion that you had to bet 20 usd until you reached 100 usd, that was before one of my doubts, a casino should not demand so much for a bonus or to be able to withdraw, because then if things are so difficult, they do not give that bonus or that contest because It is very difficult to reach that amount for a common player and even if a player is very expert, it is difficult, very difficult to reach that amount.

I believe that experienced players do not use the deposit bonus. It is much better to play in a casino where there is a high cashback and big birthday gifts

This is right.

Sometimes, people do not really care about reading the TOS first before agreeing because they find it too long to read. It may appear as a hassle to some, but it is really important to read the policies before depositing in a casino website and even in other platforms in general. This is where the issues start. The laziness of the people and their nonchalantly attitude of being complacent makes them unaware of the things that are important and relevant. Hence, when an inconvenience happen, all they do is to already rant and complain instead of trying to fix the situation first or analyzing where they went wrong.

Regarding fake reviews, these kind of feedback really do exists. Some are form of shilling and paid advertisement from the casino itself disguised as feedback to encourage more players to try their site. You need to be vigilant to spot which is unbiased and biased review. That's why you must do a research to know whether what they say about the site is accurate or not.

I think you do not get the point here, mathematically the difficulty is the same for both small and bigger deposit.
Here is simple example for 5x wagering requirement for $20 and $200 deposit: For $20 deposit, you need to wager $100 and for the $200 deposit, you need to wager $1,000.
By logic and by math, wagering $100 starting with $20 is equal to wagering $1,000 starting with $200 and the expected lose is also equal in terms of percentage (not in amount).

this is a pretty common mistake which even veteran gamblers still suffer. we all know that carelessness isn't the main reason why people sometimes overlook about this rules and regulations, sometimes being excited to try something new out of pressure from other people can also overlook this rules, and much more common reason is due to laziness. also there's this rules that are not specially highlighted in order to confuse bettors, which are commonly seen on shady gambling sites or newly created ones without future plans and just existed solely to rob money for those who wanted entertainment. this is usually what happened in my country, there have been many issues like losing their money inside their e-wallets (our locally provided e-wallet) after linking their accounts to new gambling site. due to so many influences like social media influencers promoting, people claiming they won a lot and actually claimed their prizes and the fact that you can gamble with only small amount is the trigger why most of my fellow acquiantances ignore their security in exchange of money. to be honest it is sad and at the same time it's destroying the image of gambling which can lead to the future banning of all online casinos in our country, but most of the fault is on their users for not securing themselves.

That is why before depositing any amount, we must read the ToS and ask the support service for any other requirements.
This is to prevent us from having difficulties after playing and wanting to withdraw the money because that usually happens to many gamblers.
Casinos have their own calculations so they apply different wagering requirements so we have to know that first.
By knowing the ToS, we can choose a reasonable casino so we can immediately deposit money and gamble at that casino.
And we don't need to play in casinos with exorbitantly high wagering requirements.

Always be mindful on reading up site terms and conditions so that you wouldnt really be experiencing some problems later on because on the time that you would be experiencing some withdrawal holds then you

would be commonly having that kind of questions raised and would really be making out some accusations without even trying to look back on whats the sites term which you would really be ending up on looking
yourself to be a clown on the time that you would be making out some complaints or accusations. This is why it is really just that right that you should really be having that standard behavior on reading up
TOS so that you would really be that aware on whats the thing around.

Wagering requirement is really that needed specially on the time that you do make out some deposits and much more when you do dive in with some bonuses or simply been activating it.
They wont really be giving out those freebies for nothing.

I think that you are right in this particular point because it is not every person who is interested to know the rules or the instruction of a particular gambling platform so that cause a lot of controversial problems because of lack of knowing the rules and regulation of that particular gambling platform so I believe that we supposed to read and understand and follow the protocols of platform before we join them