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Quote from: BobK71 on April 18, 2023, 12:42:29 AM

Quote from: Crypt0Gore on April 16, 2023, 03:13:06 AM

5x wagering before having to withdraw your money is a bad trick by the casino owner to try to prevent people from withdrawing all their funds and their winnings off the platform, I won't use such online gambling platform ever again. Honestly, I have never come across such, and would be better if you can tell us the name of the gambling platform but it's cool.

Usually the casino offers something that would be somewhat difficult otherwise if everyone ‍able to achieve that bonus easily which is never possible. But 5x Wagering is not really normal bonus offer. Given such a large target, most users may fail there. Making such an offer there is no sense. Moreover, if gamblers can not achieved any offer, there may be resentment of the gambling platform. Which will ruin the reputation of that casino or gambling platform.

The 5x betting requirement that is meant is not to get a bonus, but to withdraw all the funds or the results of the big win you get.
This requirement actually doesn't make sense for withdrawal or bonus requirements because not all gamblers are able to bet up to 5x and of course we all will think that the casino has made it difficult for us to withdraw the money we have in the casino.
I wonder why casinos use this method to process large withdrawals.
I'm sure there will be many gamblers who feel disappointed and give them bad reviews and also affect the reputation and trust of gamblers in the services provided.

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Quote from: BobK71 on April 18, 2023, 12:42:29 AM

Quote from: Crypt0Gore on April 16, 2023, 03:13:06 AM

5x wagering before having to withdraw your money is a bad trick by the casino owner to try to prevent people from withdrawing all their funds and their winnings off the platform, I won't use such online gambling platform ever again. Honestly, I have never come across such, and would be better if you can tell us the name of the gambling platform but it's cool.

Usually the casino offers something that would be somewhat difficult otherwise if everyone ‍able to achieve that bonus easily which is never possible. But 5x Wagering is not really normal bonus offer. Given such a large target, most users may fail there. Making such an offer there is no sense. Moreover, if gamblers can not achieved any offer, there may be resentment of the gambling platform. Which will ruin the reputation of that casino or gambling platform.

Those people were so eager to get their bonus easily that they tried to give it a go, but they faced a 5x or more wagering requirement instead of getting it.
It certainly burdens those who don't have much balance in their account so they can only try to play slowly while hoping that luck will come to their aid.
And if many people can't live up to those requirements and end up hating the casino, they will never use the casino and will leave it.
Making wagering requirements can be applied at casinos but casinos also don't need to use high wagering for their members unless the casino really doesn't want to pay money to its members.

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Quote from: Crypt0Gore on April 16, 2023, 03:13:06 AM

5x wagering before having to withdraw your money is a bad trick by the casino owner to try to prevent people from withdrawing all their funds and their winnings off the platform, I won't use such online gambling platform ever again. Honestly, I have never come across such, and would be better if you can tell us the name of the gambling platform but it's cool.

Usually the casino offers something that would be somewhat difficult otherwise if everyone ‍able to achieve that bonus easily which is never possible. But 5x Wagering is not really normal bonus offer. Given such a large target, most users may fail there. Making such an offer there is no sense. Moreover, if gamblers can not achieved any offer, there may be resentment of the gambling platform. Which will ruin the reputation of that casino or gambling platform.

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Quote from: speedy963 on April 17, 2023, 09:28:38 PM

I have been on this kind of situation before and I know how it felts like it is really annoying and you feel like you are wasting your time, money and energy, but I know this is to prevent from excessive withdrawing since there are gamblers who transfers big amount of money inside their casino and will try to win whatever they are offering either the pot money and will just withdraw immediately after winning. They are preventing this kind of scenes from happening that is why mostly you have to control how much you are going to put inside the casino just in case they will put this "lock period" strategy.

Just as casinos are being very careful about those which may try to use their casino as an improvised mixer, gamblers need to be very careful as well, since the waging requirements of this casino are high for a regular deposit, and unless someone is committed to play long term on the casino it is kind of difficult to reach them.

But how to avoid this? And the only way we can do that is by doing our due diligence by reading the reviews of other gamblers regarding the casino in which we are interested, and by reading their TOS, just in case there were some changes since the reviews were first posted online.

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Quote from: speedy963 on April 17, 2023, 09:28:38 PM

I have been on this kind of situation before and I know how it felts like it is really annoying and you feel like you are wasting your time, money and energy, but I know this is to prevent from excessive withdrawing since there are gamblers who transfers big amount of money inside their casino and will try to win whatever they are offering either the pot money and will just withdraw immediately after winning. They are preventing this kind of scenes from happening that is why mostly you have to control how much you are going to put inside the casino just in case they will put this "lock period" strategy.

actually he does not waste his time and money because he played using Bonus amount and make them win so the only problem he has is the wagering requirement and it is His option to deal or now, because he can easily leave the site and the winning and move on.
and also OP had already got his money so yes maybe it is what he wanted to do and got it.

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I have been on this kind of situation before and I know how it felts like it is really annoying and you feel like you are wasting your time, money and energy, but I know this is to prevent from excessive withdrawing since there are gamblers who transfers big amount of money inside their casino and will try to win whatever they are offering either the pot money and will just withdraw immediately after winning. They are preventing this kind of scenes from happening that is why mostly you have to control how much you are going to put inside the casino just in case they will put this "lock period" strategy.

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Quote from: GxSTxV on April 12, 2023, 12:59:13 PM

I will keep this thread updated as soon as I find some time to make the minimum deposit and try to wager 5x my deposits which will be 15 USDT as mentioned in terms. I have contacted the casino's live support and confirmed that there are no additional conditions for withdrawing my profits and deposited amount once I meet the required terms to avoid any other extra requirements.

As promised, I made the minimum deposit today and attempted to wager x5 my deposit of 0.0005 BTC. Fortunately I was able to achieve their requirements by taking some risks in Dice game and purchasing a minimum bonus on Sweet Bonanza slot which turned surprisingly into a profit. After contacting live support to confirm if I had met the required wagering amount, I submitted a withdrawal request. I was apprehensive about facing a KYC process or having my withdrawal request denied, but it wasn’t the case at all, the process was smooth and my withdrawal was processed almost instantly. I received my funds without having to go through the hassle of confirming my documents or anything else. I hope the casino take another consideration about the high wagering requirements and it would be great for both side.

this is a good news mate at least after weeks you finally got your winning and do that challenging way of depositing and complying to their wagering requirements .
since there is a smooth withdrawal, meaning their site name stands still as Trustdice casino .
though indeed that considering to lower their requirements will keep players entering their site .

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Quote from: Desmong on April 17, 2023, 05:31:54 PM

Quote from: Crypt0Gore on April 16, 2023, 03:13:06 AM

5x wagering before having to withdraw your money is a bad trick by the casino owner to try to prevent people from withdrawing all their funds and their winnings off the platform, I won't use such online gambling platform ever again. Honestly, I have never come across such, and would be better if you can tell us the name of the gambling platform but it's cool.

Accept this as a lesson for you mate, next time ToS is not something you will want to miss before depositing money on any casino account, ToS carries some important warnings and information that can save you the stress of any possible action by the casino developers.

Many people had be taking the terms and conditions of casinos for granted which is supposed not to be so. It is to our own betterment for us to always check all these things to make sure that we are not breaking an you rule so far. Many gamblers do not know the risk they are putting themselves in.

the reason why some people is having issues today in some of the casino gambling websites it is because of they failed to obey the rules and the regulations of that particular casino platform so when it reach to the point of cashing out their money those protocols all those laws implemented that they refused to abid on will you come to manifest at the end they will have challenges,

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Quote from: Crypt0Gore on April 16, 2023, 03:13:06 AM

5x wagering before having to withdraw your money is a bad trick by the casino owner to try to prevent people from withdrawing all their funds and their winnings off the platform, I won't use such online gambling platform ever again. Honestly, I have never come across such, and would be better if you can tell us the name of the gambling platform but it's cool.

Accept this as a lesson for you mate, next time ToS is not something you will want to miss before depositing money on any casino account, ToS carries some important warnings and information that can save you the stress of any possible action by the casino developers.

Many people had be taking the terms and conditions of casinos for granted which is supposed not to be so. It is to our own betterment for us to always check all these things to make sure that we are not breaking an you rule so far. Many gamblers do not know the risk they are putting themselves in.

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Quote from: len01 on April 17, 2023, 04:45:37 PM

to be honest I have the same problem as you and I also said it in the first reply. but what impressed me about this casino is that they process withdrawals without asking for KYC and the withdrawals are also fast.
the first time i also did not read the ToS wrong but in the end i bet for fun but luck was on my side and it can be up to 5x the bet amount.
and until now I have never visited the casino again, not because I don't believe it but just doubt if the withdrawal problem occurs again after I made a deposit.

I think that Trustdice has no issue when it comes to small amounts of money which is logical after all. For someone who's tryjng money laundering or mixing coins he would go high balances i guess. KYC process is only requested for suspicious players as i followed many cases claimed by some users of this casino i loved the way the support was trying to help and always provide proofs that the user either cheated or trying to fake his documents.
For me personally i don't have any issue gambling again on this casino in one condition which gonna be the wagering requirements , i prefer to play with no bonus and x1 wagering rather than much bonuses and high wagering requirements

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Quote from: GxSTxV on April 17, 2023, 11:16:09 AM

Quote from: GxSTxV on April 12, 2023, 12:59:13 PM

I will keep this thread updated as soon as I find some time to make the minimum deposit and try to wager 5x my deposits which will be 15 USDT as mentioned in terms. I have contacted the casino's live support and confirmed that there are no additional conditions for withdrawing my profits and deposited amount once I meet the required terms to avoid any other extra requirements.

As promised, I made the minimum deposit today and attempted to wager x5 my deposit of 0.0005 BTC. Fortunately I was able to achieve their requirements by taking some risks in Dice game and purchasing a minimum bonus on Sweet Bonanza slot which turned surprisingly into a profit. After contacting live support to confirm if I had met the required wagering amount, I submitted a withdrawal request. I was apprehensive about facing a KYC process or having my withdrawal request denied, but it wasn’t the case at all, the process was smooth and my withdrawal was processed almost instantly. I received my funds without having to go through the hassle of confirming my documents or anything else. I hope the casino take another consideration about the high wagering requirements and it would be great for both side.

to be honest I have the same problem as you and I also said it in the first reply. but what impressed me about this casino is that they process withdrawals without asking for KYC and the withdrawals are also fast.
the first time i also did not read the ToS wrong but in the end i bet for fun but luck was on my side and it can be up to 5x the bet amount.
and until now I have never visited the casino again, not because I don't believe it but just doubt if the withdrawal problem occurs again after I made a deposit.

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Quote from: GxSTxV on April 17, 2023, 11:16:09 AM

Quote from: GxSTxV on April 12, 2023, 12:59:13 PM

I will keep this thread updated as soon as I find some time to make the minimum deposit and try to wager 5x my deposits which will be 15 USDT as mentioned in terms. I have contacted the casino's live support and confirmed that there are no additional conditions for withdrawing my profits and deposited amount once I meet the required terms to avoid any other extra requirements.

As promised, I made the minimum deposit today and attempted to wager x5 my deposit of 0.0005 BTC. Fortunately I was able to achieve their requirements by taking some risks in Dice game and purchasing a minimum bonus on Sweet Bonanza slot which turned surprisingly into a profit. After contacting live support to confirm if I had met the required wagering amount, I submitted a withdrawal request. I was apprehensive about facing a KYC process or having my withdrawal request denied, but it wasn’t the case at all, the process was smooth and my withdrawal was processed almost instantly. I received my funds without having to go through the hassle of confirming my documents or anything else. I hope the casino take another consideration about the high wagering requirements and it would be great for both side.

That's great success and thanks a lot for sharing, although 5x seems to me quite Risky and hard to do, I've seen other sites that are like bitcasino just put a 1x requirement when it comes to bonuses like this or when You win a type of raffle, I still managed to do a 5x. It seems to me that what you did is quite good and worthy of admiration, it is also seen that the casino complies and of course,it became a great win, I also congratulate you,because not everyone has the ability to do things like that.

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Quote from: mak013 on April 17, 2023, 01:54:43 AM

So you need not to lose 5x deposit. It can be difficult enough - you have to risk 5 times. And if i want to bet just 1 time? Sometimes i make a bet to get profit and withdraw it, here it is impossible.
I`m sure that all this moments we can find in ToS, but i think that it is unfair to the gambler.

I think you misunderstood 5x wagering requirement. In meeting the said requirement you don't need to lose 5x the amount of the deposit but rather you need to wager, winning or losing is counted on that wagering requirement. It is true that we need to risk 5x the initial deposit but it does not mean we need to lose 5x of the deposit amount.

Quote from: slapper on April 16, 2023, 01:53:46 PM

Five times wagering, folks? Believe me, it's not too shabby! I've seen these online casinos, and some of them have a whopping 30x wagering - what a pain! So, in comparison, 5x is a pretty sweet deal. Remember, these casinos aren't altruistic organizations; they need to bring home the bacon.

For a bonus requirement, yes it is pretty sweet but for a deposit withdrawal without claiming any kind of bonus it is not. It is a pain for those who wanted to try their luck and withdraw after some spins or hitting a good winnings after a few spins since they need to meet the 5x deposit wagering requirement before they can proceed to withdraw.

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Quote from: GxSTxV on April 12, 2023, 12:59:13 PM

I will keep this thread updated as soon as I find some time to make the minimum deposit and try to wager 5x my deposits which will be 15 USDT as mentioned in terms. I have contacted the casino's live support and confirmed that there are no additional conditions for withdrawing my profits and deposited amount once I meet the required terms to avoid any other extra requirements.

As promised, I made the minimum deposit today and attempted to wager x5 my deposit of 0.0005 BTC. Fortunately I was able to achieve their requirements by taking some risks in Dice game and purchasing a minimum bonus on Sweet Bonanza slot which turned surprisingly into a profit. After contacting live support to confirm if I had met the required wagering amount, I submitted a withdrawal request. I was apprehensive about facing a KYC process or having my withdrawal request denied, but it wasn’t the case at all, the process was smooth and my withdrawal was processed almost instantly. I received my funds without having to go through the hassle of confirming my documents or anything else. I hope the casino take another consideration about the high wagering requirements and it would be great for both side.

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Quote from: bittraffic on April 11, 2023, 07:50:34 PM

Why not just name the casino to warn everyone here who plans to claim bonuses because more than likely that its not just you who will fall for it.
With enough people warning about them, they might just change that TOS.

Aside from the casino being a possible scam, there is still a need for us to pay more attention to some details and read through ops story again to clearly understand the nature of this that occur between the player and the casino, because he mentioned that he failed to read the casino term and condition before depositing so the blame is entirely on him.

On a second note, no casino will allow a player to withdraw a deposit with haven't to meet their withdrawal requirements and if ops hard read the term of service he should have known what wagering requirements are placed on withdrawal on the deposited amount. So at that, I won't entirely blame the casino if the demand for ops meets their requirements as that is the standards procedures for deposits.

Quote from: bittraffic on April 11, 2023, 07:50:34 PM

Welcome to scam casino. A lot of us have gone through that experience where users wouldn't really deposit anything if they just knew that the deposited amount is bound to lose.

The casino may not entirely be a scam casino, because the wagering requirement is one of the prerequisites of most casinos and we should be ok with that since we need to meet their requirements in other to withdraw balance be it deposits or bonuses this is in line with AML.

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Quote from: maydna on April 13, 2023, 11:25:56 AM

Quote from: mak013 on April 13, 2023, 06:16:28 AM

It seems that you find scam casino. I don`t know any normal casino with x5 requirements for withdraw. But with such ToS they can easily get your money and you can`t do anything with it. One more situation why we need to read ToS before deposit. And we can choose for gambling some casino from this board with long history and positive feedback.
PS. I hope you don`t lose much in this casino.

Even though there is a 5x requirement for withdrawal, it doesn't seem too heavy especially if we manage to win some money. But if we don't win the money, we don't need to deposit any more money just to satisfy our curiosity because it's not worth it. We should look for other casinos that don't have too high requirements that can be burdensome for us to achieve them. And yes, reading the ToS is recommended to avoid choosing the wrong casino. This has happened to many people and we already know about it so we better read the ToS carefully.

So you need not to lose 5x deposit. It can be difficult enough - you have to risk 5 times. And if i want to bet just 1 time? Sometimes i make a bet to get profit and withdraw it, here it is impossible.
I`m sure that all this moments we can find in ToS, but i think that it is unfair to the gambler.

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Quote from: Crypt0Gore on April 16, 2023, 03:13:06 AM

5x wagering before having to withdraw your money is a bad trick by the casino owner to try to prevent people from withdrawing all their funds and their winnings off the platform, I won't use such online gambling platform ever again. Honestly, I have never come across such, and would be better if you can tell us the name of the gambling platform but it's cool.

Totally agree with you, 5x wagering requirement is no different from day light robbery, robbery is even better because in it, you are forced to give out your money and other valuable items at a gun point or something, but in a casino with 5x wagering requirement, you willingly give out your money only to discover you can't have it back when you want it, such casinos can only be of good service to addict gamblers, not for persons who just wanna have some fun gambling.

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Quote from: Crypt0Gore on April 16, 2023, 03:13:06 AM

5x wagering before having to withdraw your money is a bad trick by the casino owner to try to prevent people from withdrawing all their funds and their winnings off the platform, I won't use such online gambling platform ever again. Honestly, I have never come across such, and would be better if you can tell us the name of the gambling platform but it's cool.

Accept this as a lesson for you mate, next time ToS is not something you will want to miss before depositing money on any casino account, ToS carries some important warnings and information that can save you the stress of any possible action by the casino developers.

Five times wagering, folks? Believe me, it's not too shabby! I've seen these online casinos, and some of them have a whopping 30x wagering - what a pain! So, in comparison, 5x is a pretty sweet deal. Remember, these casinos aren't altruistic organizations; they need to bring home the bacon.

You're right about reading the T&Cs before paying. The Terms of Service contain a plethora of information to prevent future surprises. Let's gamble online confidently. With luck and strategy, you may win big

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Quote from: GxSTxV on April 11, 2023, 06:42:56 PM

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Each casino has its own rules and if we enter the casino, always read the casino rules and if you see that the casino has strict requirements, it's quite easy. Don't make a deposit, rather than just wasting your time just fulfilling the bonus requirements.
50x is a very difficult requirement for me and this is the reason I don't really like betting using bonuses that it bothers me that I have to reach the required limit.

Those people who joined the bonuses are just tempted by the bonus they will get, which is why no matter how many times they read the terms, they still continue to do it, hoping that they can't easily achieve it. Most bonuses right now have a really twist, unlike before, when it was just a simple sign up, deposit, and gamble three times, then you were good to withdraw. Right now, it is very difficult or impossible to get your bonuses, as you need to play them back to the casino and again, you'll lose.

Yes, sometimes people want to feel that they are getting a bonus, regardless of the conditions that must be met, but in the end, they only waste time and lose bets without getting any bonuses.
I think this is indeed the goal of the casino to provide bonuses with conditions that are a little difficult so that gamblers can try to get these bonuses even though they can barely get them.
Another thing like betting 5x wanting to withdraw your own funds is actually not that difficult but for big gamblers it might be a problem.

Yep, They are still a business and they don't want to give away free money to the public without the chance of them getting something from it. Easy bonuses are known for abuses and cheaters that's why casino are trying to be fair with the rules they have set up. They are just trying to balance out the requirements in being hard that the abusers and cheaters will avoid them as well as being a doable for the gamblers to win it. I'm sure that casino want to make it attractive as they can be but as a gambler we always need to read their terms as we are playing at their platform.

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