Didn't BFL mention, i.e if they make 100SC ready to ship:
1/3 will go to fill new orders queue
1/3 will go to fill FPGA-ASIC exchange orders queue
1/3 will go to fill exchange queue, for people who pre-ordered FPGA but never took delivery
As you see there actually 3 queues.
Thus if you refuse the delivery of MiniRig FPGA and transfer the funds to ASIC, you are much higher up the queue then if you sell the queue and place a fresh order.
Topic: ["WAIT LIST"] BFL Mini-Rig Order Date/Ship Date - page 8. (Read 32400 times)
The SC release is supposed to happen once there is an actual inventory built of all products. I suspect this to be well into November and maybe December...
It seems BFL does appreciate that shipping these as they are built (namely Mini Rig SC) would grossly favor certain individuals so they need to release once some amount (lord knows what that amount is) is in inventory.
It seems BFL does appreciate that shipping these as they are built (namely Mini Rig SC) would grossly favor certain individuals so they need to release once some amount (lord knows what that amount is) is in inventory.
It is the SCAM because the sooner in the queue you receive the ASIC the more money you make. Buy selling your queue you miss that opportunity.
Why would someone trading in a non-SC rig get a higher place in the queue than someone who pays outright? 
They would be at the end, same as with a new order.He's buying queue places for NON-SC rigs.
But that is assuming on top of assuming on top of more assuming....
This whole situation smells like my daughters diapers. The sheer number of future variables means you really cannot possibly accurately figure out what is going to happen in 3-4 months time.
And that means that there will be losers in the big gamble.
This whole situation smells like my daughters diapers. The sheer number of future variables means you really cannot possibly accurately figure out what is going to happen in 3-4 months time.
And that means that there will be losers in the big gamble.
It is the SCAM because the sooner in the queue you receive the ASIC the more money you make. Buy selling your queue you miss that opportunity.
I don't think people who ordered $15k equipment are dumb enough to fall for this "I will buy your queue". BFL has stated that before the MiniRig ships, the customer will be contacted and offered to exchange the MiniRig funds for SC Singles of equivalent value, so anyone selling the FPGA MiniRig queue is then forced to place a new order for the SC Singles which means he goes right to the back of the queue.
And with SC singles worth $15000 coming close to 400GH/s, queue here is worth more than the FPGA MiniRig will produce from now until October.
So people, don't fall for this "I will buy your queue scam"
Why is it a scam? Potentially, only the buyer loses out, but it all depends on when SC actually ships. And with SC singles worth $15000 coming close to 400GH/s, queue here is worth more than the FPGA MiniRig will produce from now until October.
So people, don't fall for this "I will buy your queue scam"
I don't think people who ordered $15k equipment are dumb enough to fall for this "I will buy your queue". BFL has stated that before the MiniRig ships, the customer will be contacted and offered to exchange the MiniRig funds for SC Singles of equivalent value, so anyone selling the FPGA MiniRig queue is then forced to place a new order for the SC Singles which means he goes right to the back of the queue.
And with SC singles worth $15000 coming close to 400GH/s, queue here is worth more than the FPGA MiniRig will produce from now until October.
So people, don't fall for this "I will buy your queue scam"
And with SC singles worth $15000 coming close to 400GH/s, queue here is worth more than the FPGA MiniRig will produce from now until October.
So people, don't fall for this "I will buy your queue scam"
The BFL trade-in offer expires in 1Q 2013, so You are unlikely to buy mini rigs with Your offer before ASIC is available.
I don't believe in the October deadline that much ... but the problem is that BFL did not reply yet to my question how the SC queue is handled.
The only fair way to handle the SC queue is by taking into account not the mini rig delivery or order date but the date of payment for the SC purchase / upgrade.
=> So there is no point to buy / sell mini rigs now from the point of view of the SC queue.
If You want the SC version fast You should pre-order the SC version now ! You will pay exactly the same amount :-)
Offers like Yours only contribute to the suspicion that the October deadline is unlikely :-)
So my offer is better. I would buy a mini rig for at least 25% premium :-)
I don't believe in the October deadline that much ... but the problem is that BFL did not reply yet to my question how the SC queue is handled.
The only fair way to handle the SC queue is by taking into account not the mini rig delivery or order date but the date of payment for the SC purchase / upgrade.
=> So there is no point to buy / sell mini rigs now from the point of view of the SC queue.
If You want the SC version fast You should pre-order the SC version now ! You will pay exactly the same amount :-)
Offers like Yours only contribute to the suspicion that the October deadline is unlikely :-)
So my offer is better. I would buy a mini rig for at least 25% premium :-)
"If you would like to get out of your position in a BFL mini rig, I will buy up to FOUR mini rigs at the full purchase price." This offer is not very convincing :-) I would probably by more if I don't have to wait for the shipment. The mini rig generates an income = mini rig cost in ca. 6-8 months ? So If I don't have to wait for the shipment 4 months it is worth 50% of the mini rig price :-)
Hi tytus,
BFL is coming out with an ASIC product and if you don't double down (trade in your FPGA mini rig and drop another $15k), your 25Gh 50lb box will be good for, well, to prop open doors with. Their stated delivery date is late October which means if they deliver even a month late, or 6-8 month payback timeframe is longer than when the difficulty will double or triple and the block rewards halves.
My offer is meant to help those who do not have the ability to drop another 15k to upgrade to ASIC or otherwise would like to recoup their investment before ASIC arrives.
Best regards,
gigavps
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/announcement-asic-mining-processor-by-butterfly-labs-87934
"If you would like to get out of your position in a BFL mini rig, I will buy up to FOUR mini rigs at the full purchase price." This offer is not very convincing :-) I would probably by more if I don't have to wait for the shipment. The mini rig generates an income = mini rig cost in ca. 6-8 months ? So If I don't have to wait for the shipment 4 months it is worth 50% of the mini rig price :-)
If anyone would like to sell their FPGA mini rig order -> https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/wtb-your-bfl-mini-rig-order-92917
Finally out of jail :-)
Date Ordered // Order # // Shipped // Quantity // User
2012-04-14 // 20 // - // 1 // tytus
I got two mails stating that my shipping deadline is August 2.
I find the list very valuable.
It can prove that people actually receive functional mini rigs
It can prove that there is a shipment schedule based on the order date
It can help BFL to fight against accusations of scam and ponzi scheme
I am also interested in future shipment timing as I may order more mini rigs before the SC version are available. When we get the shipment I will post specs.
BFL informed me that Inaba offers storing mini rigs in Kansas City to wait for upgrade, but the gave me a wrong email :-( [a wrong domain name].
Inaba can You confirm this?
Date Ordered // Order # // Shipped // Quantity // User
2012-04-14 // 20 // - // 1 // tytus
I got two mails stating that my shipping deadline is August 2.
I find the list very valuable.
It can prove that people actually receive functional mini rigs
It can prove that there is a shipment schedule based on the order date
It can help BFL to fight against accusations of scam and ponzi scheme
I am also interested in future shipment timing as I may order more mini rigs before the SC version are available. When we get the shipment I will post specs.
BFL informed me that Inaba offers storing mini rigs in Kansas City to wait for upgrade, but the gave me a wrong email :-( [a wrong domain name].
Inaba can You confirm this?
I think half month ago,Sonny said every day there's 1.5mini rig completed
that's so funny
This list haven't updated for long time
I believe just 3 or 4 people got it
There are many customers not on the list. However, Sonny must have underestimated greatly OR there will be easily 100-200TH/s just from mini-rig upgrades when the asics ship. that's so funny
This list haven't updated for long time
I believe just 3 or 4 people got it
I think half month ago,Sonny said every day there's 1.5mini rig completed
that's so funny
This list haven't updated for long time
I believe just 3 or 4 people got it
that's so funny
This list haven't updated for long time
I believe just 3 or 4 people got it
I doubt that most of their customers post their orders here. Not everybody cares to be social on the Internet, especially with issues regarding money. Everybody IRL who I tell I invested $30k in Bitcoin mining hardware is astounded that I'd make the actual dollar amount of my investment public knowledge. I'm just weird like that, though...Don't really care.
I'm confirmed that I'll have mine on Thursday or Friday.
I think half month ago,Sonny said every day there's 1.5mini rig completed
that's so funny
This list haven't updated for long time
I believe just 3 or 4 people got it
that's so funny
This list haven't updated for long time
I believe just 3 or 4 people got it
I doubt that most of their customers post their orders here. Not everybody cares to be social on the Internet, especially with issues regarding money. Everybody IRL who I tell I invested $30k in Bitcoin mining hardware is astounded that I'd make the actual dollar amount of my investment public knowledge. I'm just weird like that, though...Don't really care.
I think half month ago,Sonny said every day there's 1.5mini rig completed
that's so funny
This list haven't updated for long time
I believe just 3 or 4 people got it
that's so funny
This list haven't updated for long time
I believe just 3 or 4 people got it
It was reported that as soon as the Mini-Rig is ready to ship, the buyer is contacted and asked if we wants the MiniRig shipped, or the funds transfered to an ASIC product order, and currently the MiniRig only makes sense if your country has no import tax and you have another $15k for the SC upgrade later on.
I think half month ago,Sonny said every day there's 1.5mini rig completed
that's so funny
This list haven't updated for long time
I believe just 3 or 4 people got it
that's so funny
This list haven't updated for long time
I believe just 3 or 4 people got it
I'm planning on ordering a Jalapeno, not sure when i'll have enough spare btc to place the order
That's a different thread.
Look at:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/wait-list-bfl-sc-pre-order-information-monarch-orders-too-89685
I'm planning on ordering a Jalapeno, not sure when i'll have enough spare btc to place the order
Maybe don't take it personal. I can't get them on the phone or get them to respond to email. A simple "It's all good jd" would be better than nothing.
Where are you in line for the MiniRig?
Ordered and paid end of March.
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