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Quote from: Expecto on October 30, 2019, 03:13:55 PM

Nobody own this market but there are people who believe cryptos will get under the control of countries. I don't give a chance for that. I believe Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies will always continue to be special.

Even if cryptocurrency gets under control of the government, they can only fully control the cryptocurrency that they have created, but they can really not be able to control bitcoin, because bitcoin is a coin that its technology really does not allow that and it will take another strong decentralized coin to contend with bitcoin.

I doubt if the government would ever give chance to another decentralized coin because they always see them as a partial threat to them because of the total control it would give to the user in having absolute control over their own financial status which they would feel that the lack of respect by this individuals will come in, but it is a good thing anyway that they have a coin that will always checkmate them and this is the reason why bitcoin will always be embraced.

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Nobody own this market but there are people who believe cryptos will get under the control of countries. I don't give a chance for that. I believe Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies will always continue to be special.

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Quote from: crzy on October 19, 2019, 04:59:14 AM

Only whales can put the pressure, but no one owns the whole market even the exchanges because they also depend on the demand and supply as a law of the price movements. With bitcoin, everyone who have bitcoin can actually be called the owner of the market simply because bitcoin rules the whole cryptomarket. Have focus on owning more coins, make it a habit and your goal and maybe one day you will become a whale too because everything is possible in this market.

Your point is absolutely clear man, there is no one that own the market other than us, because without us, the market will just be an empty market and even the whales that we think are controlling the market will not be able to do so because if you check the ratio of whales in the market to ours, you will see that we are still very much more than the whales, I mean the average investors in the market.

Whales are able to control the market now because they are rich, I know, but the opportunity they have got to control the market is because the bitcoin is still very volatile. Look at the stable coins, how are they not able to control stables coin because it is less volatile, so bitcoin market will be fully controlled by us too in the future when it becomes a stable coin too.

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Quote from: jarhed on October 19, 2019, 01:56:54 AM

The size of the cryptocurrency portfolio is of great importance. With a huge mass of coins, you can put pressure on prices and even manipulate prices in a short period.

With the price of BTCitcoin increasing the manipulation is not that high like we used to see in the past, i am not telling that the whales could not manipulate the market and we see the market taking precaution if a huge amount of coins are moved from one wallet to another, so it is possible to shake the market momentarily but it will gain the momentum pretty fast.

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Quote from: tiedcoin on June 09, 2019, 09:24:51 AM

Understand who controls the market you are investing or trading in, and you’ll have an advantage. Bitcoin is a free and open source market. Nobody owns it.

But does anyone control it?

Ask yourself this—

How are Bitcoins created?

Who is incentivised to create Bitcoin?

Between 2013 and the beginning of 2017, big money had been slowly moving in on Bitcoin. They saw its potential as a relatively rare asset and also the mechanism that made it work. Bitcoin is seen as having a value greater than the sum of its parts.

No one owns the market every body use it many years maybe you to say is who are manipulated in the market and of course whales and big exchanges that can make manipulation. Bitcoin can't control as you can see every day many are going in crypto and search what bitcoin is and can use it. And I think it will be grow more the people will be know what bitcoin is even in the next generation.

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Quote from: bitmover on June 09, 2019, 10:23:25 AM

Nobody owns bitcoin or the market. However the market is easily manipulated in bitcoin, due to lack of regulations.

Whales, exchanges.... they are manipulating. Don´t you remember Bcash drama in 2017, when bitcoin price was heavily manipulated?

I agree with you that no party can own the crypto market. cryptocurrency is decentralized and independent. it's just that the cryptocurrency market can be manipulated by large traders and whales. and also bad news about cryptocurrency can affect society. and this has an impact on demand and supply. and the crypto market is strongly influenced by demand and supply.

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Quote from: ttcsalam on October 19, 2019, 09:05:58 PM

Bitcoin is being considered as a digital currency. It has made transactions easier.

absolutely correct and no doubt bitcoin really is making transactions more easier

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Therefore, it is being considered as a simple means of trading.

while many trading platform we have yet this is not a simple means of trading because the volatility of market brings it harder to trade

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It is not yet clear who is the inventor of Bitcoin. But it must be regulated.

why need to be regulated?by whom the government?so whats the difference from banks and stocks if even crypto trading gives regulatory?

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Bitcoin is being considered as a digital currency. It has made transactions easier. Therefore, it is being considered as a simple means of trading. It is not yet clear who is the inventor of Bitcoin. But it must be regulated.

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Quote from: Beerwizzard on June 09, 2019, 10:06:00 AM

Please PM me. I would try to sell you 1 satoshi for $1k. I see you are a smart guy and see that 1 sat cost much more than its current value.

Market is controlled by whales. The more whales we have the less powerful the single one is and less influence on the market whales have. So right now we see that one whale can almost instantly crash the market by -5% so the market is more centralized than we want and it is controlled by whales.

Yes. Just recent events have shown that the price can be brought down in an instant if you have the money. Therefore, I am sure that the richest people in the world and lead this "holiday" of money.

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Quote from: tiedcoin on June 09, 2019, 09:24:51 AM

Understand who controls the market you are investing or trading in, and you’ll have an advantage. Bitcoin is a free and open source market. Nobody owns it.

But does anyone control it?

Ask yourself this—

How are Bitcoins created?

Who is incentivised to create Bitcoin?

Between 2013 and the beginning of 2017, big money had been slowly moving in on Bitcoin. They saw its potential as a relatively rare asset and also the mechanism that made it work. Bitcoin is seen as having a value greater than the sum of its parts.

Actually the crypto market or btc is a decentralized coin which cannnot be controlled by anoyone but the prices can be easily manipulated by the whales to gain profits by creating pump and dump situation as there is no regulated body to act upon.It is coin held by many investors and prices will rise with increased demand and supply becoming low.So we can say it is free market and nobody owns it.

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Quote from: fiulpro on October 13, 2019, 01:14:35 PM

I think everyone here owns the market in our own way , not just the big investors but everyone , it depends how much Bitcoins you have , even if it's 0.0001 or even if it's 1000, you own the market and you can actually make a difference .
The ratio varies obviously , it can be more or less but at the end because of no governmental body involved the power is with the people who trade in Bitcoins.

The size of the cryptocurrency portfolio is of great importance. With a huge mass of coins, you can put pressure on prices and even manipulate prices in a short period.

Only whales can put the pressure, but no one owns the whole market even the exchanges because they also depend on the demand and supply as a law of the price movements. With bitcoin, everyone who have bitcoin can actually be called the owner of the market simply because bitcoin rules the whole cryptomarket. Have focus on owning more coins, make it a habit and your goal and maybe one day you will become a whale too because everything is possible in this market.

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Quote from: tiedcoin on June 09, 2019, 09:24:51 AM

Understand who controls the market you are investing or trading in, and you’ll have an advantage. Bitcoin is a free and open source market. Nobody owns it.

But does anyone control it?

Ask yourself this—

How are Bitcoins created?

Who is incentivised to create Bitcoin?

Between 2013 and the beginning of 2017, big money had been slowly moving in on Bitcoin. They saw its potential as a relatively rare asset and also the mechanism that made it work. Bitcoin is seen as having a value greater than the sum of its parts.

The market is controlled by those who have more money, be it individuals or communities. I'm sure you have understood the meaning of the word whales, whether or not market price controls are independent of your perspective. My opinion the market is purely influenced by demand, but for bitcoin there are still many puzzles and issues whether bitcoin has insiders to control their volume market in exchanger sites.

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Quote from: inanilujimi on October 13, 2019, 10:37:43 AM

those who have a market are people who own Bitcoin.
no one can control the price of bitcoin but it must be remembered there are factors that affect the value of bitcoin to change significantly.
one of the factors is the latest news about regulations made by a country and the pope plays its role in this matter.

Indeed those who believe in bitcoin own the market. The fact that the market has its volatility we cannot control it when there's a significant increase and decrease of price. Though market manipulation occurs as some came in panic selling and buying of btc.

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No one owns it. No one controls it. The proponent of bitcoin, who has set all the ground rules, and the market cap, has now left. It's up to us to decide whether bitcoin would continue or just dip to death. It's about the investors, the users of the cryptocurrency which would decide its fate. If no one would want to use it, then that's the only time it would be dead. It's decentralized, it's in every single node connected to its network, we all share a part of it, whales can manipulate it but no one can control it totally.

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Quote from: fiulpro on October 13, 2019, 01:14:35 PM

I think everyone here owns the market in our own way , not just the big investors but everyone , it depends how much Bitcoins you have , even if it's 0.0001 or even if it's 1000, you own the market and you can actually make a difference .
The ratio varies obviously , it can be more or less but at the end because of no governmental body involved the power is with the people who trade in Bitcoins.

The size of the cryptocurrency portfolio is of great importance. With a huge mass of coins, you can put pressure on prices and even manipulate prices in a short period.

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I think everyone here owns the market in our own way , not just the big investors but everyone , it depends how much Bitcoins you have , even if it's 0.0001 or even if it's 1000, you own the market and you can actually make a difference .
The ratio varies obviously , it can be more or less but at the end because of no governmental body involved the power is with the people who trade in Bitcoins.

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Because the whales have enough money to manipulate the market to their advantage, it now feels the market is in their hands, in fact they are in control of the whole market, this constant manipulation of btc is the major negative side of it, the control of market is in the hands of some wealthy few, it is highly unpleasant.

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Quote from: Mandoy on October 12, 2019, 05:41:14 AM

Nobody owns bitcoins since it is decentralized. But to say that bitcoin is free from manipulation is just a hopeless belief. The bitcoin open market is vulnerable to manipulation especially from elites and giant bag holders we called whales. Those who have huge capital who are into bitcoin is playing the trades and sometimes rides the flow of the news creating domino effect on the market. At the end those weak holders have became food for the whales in the market.

No body owns the bitcoins not even satoshi nakamoto but whales do control the market. But as the bitcoin adoption will increase, whales control will be less.
If you are thinking when we will see the stability in bitcoin prices, it will only happen when no whales will be able to control it.

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those who have a market are people who own Bitcoin.
no one can control the price of bitcoin but it must be remembered there are factors that affect the value of bitcoin to change significantly.
one of the factors is the latest news about regulations made by a country and the pope plays its role in this matter.

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Technically no one owns the market but speaking in practical sense market is constructed by a group of buyers and sellers who use their powers to push the market towards their side. This is what we sometimes call Market manipulation but it's just that sometimes these buyers and sellers can be very powerful thus thriving the market completely towards their side. In traditional markets we generally called these people institution holdings but in bitcoin as there are no institutions we call them whales big individuals holding a lot of money to burn.

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