https://twitter.com/krakenfx/status/1117828361269571586
Guess I'd better get my skates on and buy more TVs and stuff.
Topic: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion - page 11012. (Read 26732281 times)
April 15, 2019, 11:35:57 AM
April 15, 2019, 11:27:43 AM
Satoshi clearly knew and understood that because Bitcoin is open source and anyone can clone or fork Bitcoin, and anyone can create unlimited number of new coins at will, then the dominance of one form of digital open source money/Gold 2.0 would be decided in the court of public opinion. Not through censorship of Bitcoin's competitors.
So it all comes down to belief/popularity contest of what form of open source digital money should be dominant, with participants basing reason to purchase and use based on sum total of philosophy/moral/ethical/guiding principles, intent of dev team, attributes (security, decentralization, etc., etc.), and growth through usage (via popularity with exchanges, brokers, users, merchants, investors, etc).
And yes BSV is a scam and Craig Wright is a fraud. But that is for the public to decide.
So it all comes down to belief/popularity contest of what form of open source digital money should be dominant, with participants basing reason to purchase and use based on sum total of philosophy/moral/ethical/guiding principles, intent of dev team, attributes (security, decentralization, etc., etc.), and growth through usage (via popularity with exchanges, brokers, users, merchants, investors, etc).
And yes BSV is a scam and Craig Wright is a fraud. But that is for the public to decide.
I like your reasoned position. Probably because I agree with it entirely.
Aire and Wright are taking a shot at being the new Rothschilds. Aire is a gambler and Wright is a pathological liar. For a while I almost began to wonder if one of them is the Antichrist. They will not be the last to try. This is a chance to run the world. Thing is, the popularity contest, as I see it has an entrant that is not/can not be controlled by anyone and is going to win after it eviscerates everyone like CSW who comes after it.
One dark question I feel we face now is: How much of a whale are either or both of these guys. BTC whale that is. Have they already done as much damage to BTC in their bid to pump BSV or will they do more? The absolute NIGHTMARE scenario is CSW somehow got control over early keys. But then... why no real proof?
Even if God himself descended and told me that CSW was Satoshi (and not in some non-duality kind of way) I wouldn't give a shit at this point. I refuse to play with someone like CSW unless it's my last option to function in this world. And I doubt I'm the only one given the stunts he's pulled.
I'm agnostic enough to give Roger a pass if the majority decided to go BABC since he denounced CSW, but CSW is just hard pass. I wouldn't be surprised if he started sending people to the Gulag if he could and I absolutely refuse to contribute even on a Planck scale to the reincarnation of humanity's biggest evils - which with the potential of BTC is a very real possibility.
April 15, 2019, 11:22:33 AM
Fuck it would be cheaper and easier to move to a rural town in the US, fuckers there with well under a million don't have to follow the laws anyways.
It's not that he doesn't want to follow the laws. That's the thing about laws; good people don't need them, bad people don't follow them.
Elwar is an idealist, it is the principle of the thing, not that he wants to set up a CP server or some shit.
April 15, 2019, 11:18:25 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26LDWnM7qe4
6:55
Craig claims that Bitcoin was not created to fix "the system", while Satoshi created Bitcoin as a reaction to the 2008 financial crisis.
His quote: "That's [debt and the debt crisis] not what Bitcoin helps with."
Every other time he opens his mouth he directly contradicts Satoshi.
6:55
Craig claims that Bitcoin was not created to fix "the system", while Satoshi created Bitcoin as a reaction to the 2008 financial crisis.
His quote: "That's [debt and the debt crisis] not what Bitcoin helps with."
Every other time he opens his mouth he directly contradicts Satoshi.
He fails to understand that once we will use currency that price will keep increasing in time taking debt will be extremely unpopular. There will be also little interest for people to offer debts.
April 15, 2019, 11:17:19 AM
France Passes Bill to Allow Insurance Providers to Invest In Crypto & Tokens
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Known as “Plan d’action pour la croissance et la transformation des entreprises,” (Pacte) the act reportedly allows insurance providers in France to invest in cryptocurrencies such as Bitcoin (BTC) with no limit on the amount of investment.
According FXStreet, a dual provision of the act enables insurers to invest in crypto through specialized professional funds, and allows them to offer life insurance policies exposed to crypto. The new measure will also impact professional capital investment funds.
According FXStreet, a dual provision of the act enables insurers to invest in crypto through specialized professional funds, and allows them to offer life insurance policies exposed to crypto. The new measure will also impact professional capital investment funds.
Insurance endowments in crypto in unlimited quantity. Things that make you go 'hmmm'.
April 15, 2019, 11:16:29 AM
Neither Nadia nor I are suicidal. We would never in our wildest dreams commit suicide.
fuck me
he is worried they are going to assassinate him
Ditto...time to punt....make it a houseboat on some more a more hospitable country...any other country would be fine
with such a 'houseboat type' community of bitcoin whales...get what slack you can from someplace else. IMHO.
Also, always the problem with 'security'. There are pirates in those waters...may also make sense to make this more
a houseboat community in a cove of a friendly country then go it alone at this point..anyway I know squat and would be chicken
so my play.
April 15, 2019, 11:15:15 AM
Good afternoon WO brothers!
BTC @ $5,138 and we are doing well I think.
BTC @ $5,138 and we are doing well I think.
April 15, 2019, 11:09:40 AM
Yet another Endowment fund invest in cryptocurrencies.
Harvard is Latest Major Institutional Investor in Cryptocurrency
https://insidebitcoins.com/news/harvard-is-latest-major-institutional-investor-in-cryptocurrency/220868
Executive Summary:
The investment was in a company called Blockcstack which sold 95.8 million Blockstack Tokens to Harvard Management along with two other investors. While Harvard’s share of the tokens is less than five million it does represent a significant institutional invest directly in blockchain tokens that are not traded openly in the way Ethereum, Bitcoin and XRP are.
Well, i have two considerations.
Harvard is Latest Major Institutional Investor in Cryptocurrency
https://insidebitcoins.com/news/harvard-is-latest-major-institutional-investor-in-cryptocurrency/220868
Executive Summary:
The investment was in a company called Blockcstack which sold 95.8 million Blockstack Tokens to Harvard Management along with two other investors. While Harvard’s share of the tokens is less than five million it does represent a significant institutional invest directly in blockchain tokens that are not traded openly in the way Ethereum, Bitcoin and XRP are.
Well, i have two considerations.
- 1. How comes a reputed institution, where the sharpest mind are nurtured, decides to invest in something that is borderline with Scam?
- 2. How comes an Endowment fund are so rich? Tuition fees are reinvested in the school or are meant to grow this mass of money that need to be put at work outside "the campus" . I am not from the U.S. s, so this puzzles me about the US educational system. If an endowment fund has 1% of all the bitcoin ever mined (quick back of the envelope calculations convert that in 1 Billion USD), whw students are gathering piles of debt to pay that?
Turns out that 94% of endowments funds are invested in crypto:
https://www.ccn.com/shock-survey-94-of-endowments-already-invested-in-crypto-industry
April 15, 2019, 11:06:19 AM
hurr durr
April 15, 2019, 10:55:31 AM
Satoshi clearly knew and understood that because Bitcoin is open source and anyone can clone or fork Bitcoin, and anyone can create unlimited number of new coins at will, then the dominance of one form of digital open source money/Gold 2.0 would be decided in the court of public opinion. Not through censorship of Bitcoin's competitors.
So it all comes down to belief/popularity contest of what form of open source digital money should be dominant, with participants basing reason to purchase and use based on sum total of philosophy/moral/ethical/guiding principles, intent of dev team, attributes (security, decentralization, etc., etc.), and growth through usage (via popularity with exchanges, brokers, users, merchants, investors, etc).
And yes BSV is a scam and Craig Wright is a fraud. But that is for the public to decide.
So it all comes down to belief/popularity contest of what form of open source digital money should be dominant, with participants basing reason to purchase and use based on sum total of philosophy/moral/ethical/guiding principles, intent of dev team, attributes (security, decentralization, etc., etc.), and growth through usage (via popularity with exchanges, brokers, users, merchants, investors, etc).
And yes BSV is a scam and Craig Wright is a fraud. But that is for the public to decide.
I like your reasoned position. Probably because I agree with it entirely.
Aire and Wright are taking a shot at being the new Rothschilds. Aire is a gambler and Wright is a pathological liar. For a while I almost began to wonder if one of them is the Antichrist. They will not be the last to try. This is a chance to run the world. Thing is, the popularity contest, as I see it has an entrant that is not/can not be controlled by anyone and is going to win after it eviscerates everyone like CSW who comes after it.
One dark question I feel we face now is: How much of a whale are either or both of these guys. BTC whale that is. Have they already done as much damage to BTC in their bid to pump BSV or will they do more? The absolute NIGHTMARE scenario is CSW somehow got control over early keys. But then... why no real proof?
April 15, 2019, 10:53:56 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26LDWnM7qe4
6:55
Craig claims that Bitcoin was not created to fix "the system", while Satoshi created Bitcoin as a reaction to the 2008 financial crisis.
His quote: "That's [debt and the debt crisis] not what Bitcoin helps with."
Every other time he opens his mouth he directly contradicts Satoshi.
6:55
Craig claims that Bitcoin was not created to fix "the system", while Satoshi created Bitcoin as a reaction to the 2008 financial crisis.
His quote: "That's [debt and the debt crisis] not what Bitcoin helps with."
Every other time he opens his mouth he directly contradicts Satoshi.
He fails to understand that once we will use currency that price will keep increasing in time taking debt will be extremely unpopular. There will be also little interest for people to offer debts.
April 15, 2019, 10:42:50 AM
Satoshi clearly knew and understood that because Bitcoin is open source and anyone can clone or fork Bitcoin, and anyone can create unlimited number of new coins at will, then the dominance of one form of digital open source money/Gold 2.0 would be decided in the court of public opinion. Not through censorship of Bitcoin's competitors.
So it all comes down to belief/popularity contest of what form of open source digital money should be dominant, with participants basing reason to purchase and use based on sum total of philosophy/moral/ethical/guiding principles, intent of dev team, attributes (security, decentralization, etc., etc.), and growth through usage (via popularity with exchanges, brokers, users, merchants, investors, etc).
And yes BSV is a scam and Craig Wright is a fraud. But that is for the public to decide.
So it all comes down to belief/popularity contest of what form of open source digital money should be dominant, with participants basing reason to purchase and use based on sum total of philosophy/moral/ethical/guiding principles, intent of dev team, attributes (security, decentralization, etc., etc.), and growth through usage (via popularity with exchanges, brokers, users, merchants, investors, etc).
And yes BSV is a scam and Craig Wright is a fraud. But that is for the public to decide.
April 15, 2019, 10:34:24 AM
indeed
Not sure this argument has the same validity as of 53 minutes ago.
I am not here to defend CZ, and I do not use Binance. But I would expect many here would cheer him on for being the one large (semi reputable) site that actually does not lick the boots of the state.
That said business is business. And who is he to judge what "coin" someone wants to buy. And delisting a coin will have political repercussions including threatening letters signed by 5 year old with crayon possibly.
But he made a fairly swift decision IMHO.
April 15, 2019, 10:28:18 AM
indeed
April 15, 2019, 10:23:58 AM
probably everyone will know this ...
And the explaining why you should change the pick...
But still like the reasoning of it
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monty_Hall_problem
Edit:
But still like the reasoning of it
What if I'm looking to eliminate the maximum amount of people, because this planet is being raped of its resources ? Are you saying I should keep my original position, and not flip the switch ? Or should I flip the switch, which will lead to my goal of eliminating the most number of people
Edit: RE: Poll, I blew the last one voting for $4,200, but was happy to be wrong with having us blast to $5k. Voted "No" in the current poll. Feel it is likely we won't ever see it dropping below $3k. Touching the $3k's ? Maybe, but gut bacteria says the $3,000's are behind us.
Edit2:
I saw a video where the father recreated the problem with toys for his son. The kid only hesitated for a second, then moved one little guy next to other five, and rammed the toy train over all six. Makes sense.
I need that video. April 15, 2019, 10:23:19 AM
I gotta say... this would be an unbiased poll. Not here... not Twitter. Shows the "support" for CSW and BSV clearly.
This is the button right after the "We are delisting' article on the Binance site:
This is the button right after the "We are delisting' article on the Binance site:
April 15, 2019, 10:20:15 AM
I would say ask JJG but it’s not Thursday yet 
I think it's superb myself. Craig Wright the well known liar paid for my 4K TV and a trip to the IoM TT this year. Guess I'd better spunk the rest.
I didn’t get any SV. I spunked all my BCH & lived like a King for about 12 months. Had to reign it in now though sadly, no more free money
April 15, 2019, 10:18:58 AM
I would say ask JJG but it’s not Thursday yet
I think it's superb myself. Craig Wright the well known liar paid for my 4K TV and a trip to the IoM TT this year. Guess I'd better spunk the rest.
April 15, 2019, 10:14:36 AM
Binance has now delisted BSV... officially! Let's see how far the decline goes... 
Good!
Hopefully CW ends up selling his ass for 60 bucks a night in a cheap Motel to put food in his lying, arrogant gut.
I can’t wait to see the down fall of that oxygen thief.
Man.. that raggedy old thing couldn't be worth $60 could it? Bob? Someone who would have an opinion?
I would say ask JJG but it’s not Thursday yet
April 15, 2019, 10:14:12 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26LDWnM7qe4
6:55
Craig claims that Bitcoin was not created to fix "the system", while Satoshi created Bitcoin as a reaction to the 2008 financial crisis.
His quote: "That's [debt and the debt crisis] not what Bitcoin helps with."
Every other time he opens his mouth he directly contradicts Satoshi.
6:55
Craig claims that Bitcoin was not created to fix "the system", while Satoshi created Bitcoin as a reaction to the 2008 financial crisis.
His quote: "That's [debt and the debt crisis] not what Bitcoin helps with."
Every other time he opens his mouth he directly contradicts Satoshi.
What he has been doing has been obvious to me (I think) and this supports it. He has been trying to romance the state. He has been trying to make "bitcoin" something that the state and the CBs could embrace.
He is a fool.
^
Well, I read a lot about Hal Finney and I do not remember seeing him before.
In any case, it seems very good, we do not know what awaits us from science in the future.
One day he will come back from the dead and sign the message just to bring clarity for posteriority. Of course it won't matter to Bitcoin itself at that point, but it will be nice to know regardless. And then we'll have Satoshi vs CSW movies.Well, I read a lot about Hal Finney and I do not remember seeing him before.
In any case, it seems very good, we do not know what awaits us from science in the future.
We have to start a cryogenization business, it's the future.
I hope other Bitcoin OGs will be funding all sorts of insane ventures as well once we close in on 7 digits. We need more people like Musk in the world.
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