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legendary
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 He is also stupid-ass racist, in the nazi direction.  

Thanks, yeah that I know, I noticed his-her Nazi flag and anti jews's post.
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They are breaking up, right? 

So they want to break up and stay friends?

I thought that the break up was a bit more hostile.. I suppose it is still in development and all the details are not really known, either.

I don't know why, but this photo reminds me of a couple of small white hamsters I had as a child. Dirty little things...



Haha, When Jihan said this it was the moment I knew for sure that b-cash was a scam/distraction/dead coin/not the flippening, etc. Then Roger would reconfirm every time he opened his mouth. 
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It's not the most pleasant picture in the morning. Bears dominate the bulls again in the market.


This image has made me very sad.

I hope you are proud of yourself.

Dickhead.
I'm sorry, Bob. I didn't want to spoil your or anyone's mood, I was just stating a fact (which is not pleasant for me either).
legendary
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Self-Custody is a right. Say no to"Non-custodial"


I can name 3000 coins that literally came out of my ass that can do the same thing.

No you can't.

There is only one bitcoin, and when push comes to shove (for example if they were under government attack or traditional banking attack), all 3,000 of those supposed coins that you cannot even list would not have liquidity or network (node) effects to accomplish such with impunity like bitcoin can.

What? Muster up the measly 2.8 million US dollars of total aggregate system-wide value that the LN contains? Au contraire, mon frere.

I am referring to bitcoin as a package, and lightning is one optional and supplemental component of such bitcoin package. 

Good for you. But the topic is #LNTrustChain -- which is clearly specific to Lightning.

Good for me, also, because the topic of this thread is bitcoin, and lightning happens to be a part of bitcoin (or at least has a lot of connections with bitcoin), so don't try to get too far on a tangent with your high and mighty attempts at abstraction.


Don't get LN mixed up with the real bitcoin

Thanks for the injection of reality. Although every time I point out that Lightning is not Bitcoin, a buncha nattering nabobs jump down my throat.

Yes, folks probably jump down your throat based on your inclinations towards mischaracterizing matters and giving the wrong kinds of weight to various topics that ends up seeming like you might be on topic, but largely inclined towards misleading, either because you are pumping some kind of alt coin narrative or engaged in undue and unwarranted criticisms of bitcoin.

Certainly, I have known you long enough to appreciate that you are likely smarter than that, so the sum of the matter is that you are likely contributing in disingenuous ways.
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Second Brexit




They count the state of Washington as a "colony"? It has the word "Washington" in it.

Also I'm not sure I would count Antarctica unless we are talking about penguin colonies.
Yup, but any Brit can jump in for final confirmation.

I do remember the incident when British Embassy gave them "burning cake" or something on the 4th of July( i could be wrong here). it's possible i guess. British humor  Grin

And I don't know anything about penguin colonies.

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BCH fan? Cheesy

Roach is generally NOT a fan of any of the cryptos.  

He is a pumper of PMs such as gold and silver, and set's forth a lot of the similar arguments that anti-government folks suggest in order to suggest that there is a need to invest in case the Armageddon comes.  He is also stupid-ass racist, in the nazi direction.  

Yet, who really knows or cares exactly what the fuck that he is talking about because his topics are largely tangential to the topic of this thread (but still seemingly tolerated), except perhaps one might conclude that his anti-government statements might line up with sound money aspects of bitcoin, if he were not likely paid to spout out his baloney bullshit distractions (but, for some reason, has not been around this thread too much in the past week or more.. i think he posts in streaks (maybe either related to how he is paid or when he has leave from the asylum))...    Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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Variants of Satoshi's logos, which were presented on Reddit. Which one do you like better?


the broken $ is nice  Cool
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Variants of Satoshi's logos, which were presented on Reddit. Which one do you like better?
legendary
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It's more than that Elwar.

ALL tax levied on corporations simply becomes a line item in COGS and is added to the price of it's product.

Consumers pay taxes, full stop.
Cherry picking.

You can not have one (consumers) without the other (corporations).

Consumers don't just magically have money, they earn it by working for (or running) corporations.

And their paycheck comes from corporations. Thus from consumers.

Consumers pay themselves and build corporations to increase their consumption.


Trying to credit taxes paid to either party is patently false and ignores the underlying reality of our society. Which is also why trying to target tax corporations vs consumers is just retarded tribalism in a new disguise created by government propaganda, the only party that takes 70-80% of everything humans create and then quite literally burns the vast majority of it.


Edit: In case you want to keep your distinction between consumers and corporations then factually corporations pay all taxes (including your income tax).

All completely true except for your last point as you're forgetting about personal wealth taxes, estate taxes,  capital gains taxes (on real estate and commodities), stamp duties etc.
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I can name 3000 coins that literally came out of my ass that can do the same thing.

No you can't.

There is only one bitcoin, and when push comes to shove (for example if they were under government attack or traditional banking attack), all 3,000 of those supposed coins that you cannot even list would not have liquidity or network (node) effects to accomplish such with impunity like bitcoin can.

What? Muster up the measly 2.8 million US dollars of total aggregate system-wide value that the LN contains? Au contraire, mon frere.

I am referring to bitcoin as a package, and lightning is one optional and supplemental component of such bitcoin package. 

Good for you. But the topic is #LNTrustChain -- which is clearly specific to Lightning.

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Don't get LN mixed up with the real bitcoin

Thanks for the injection of reality. Although every time I point out that Lightning is not Bitcoin, a buncha nattering nabobs jump down my throat.
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It's more than that Elwar.

ALL tax levied on corporations simply becomes a line item in COGS and is added to the price of it's product.

Consumers pay taxes, full stop.
Cherry picking.

You can not have one (consumers) without the other (corporations).

Consumers don't just magically have money, they earn it by working for (or running) corporations.

And their paycheck comes from corporations. Thus from consumers.

Consumers pay themselves and build corporations to increase their consumption.


Trying to credit taxes paid to either party is patently false and ignores the underlying reality of our society. Which is also why trying to target tax corporations vs consumers is just retarded tribalism in a new disguise created by government propaganda, the only party that takes 70-80% of everything humans create and then quite literally burns the vast majority of it.


Edit: In case you want to keep your distinction between consumers and corporations then factually corporations pay all taxes (including your income tax).
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... taxing corporates like IKEA that make billions but haven’t paid a pound in tax since 1976.

We have been over this Hairy.

No corporation has ever paid one iota of tax in history.  You are welcome to your opinion on brexit, but trotting out this weak sauce isn't helping your cause.
And they fucking shouldn't. Everybody who receives a paycheck is already paying half of it in taxes. Not sure why socialists are so much into not even just double taxation and actually thinking they're doing something good.

Hey, let's take 20% in corporate tax, 50% of every paycheck and then an additional 20% VAT on every purchase and thus take well over 70% of everything earned and throw it at worthless inefficient garbage that does more harm than good.

But then let's complain about Brexit and some scientists losing their jobs, as if that was the problem. If governments weren't pure evil we would have healed all diseases and completely removed poverty right now, even for all the worthless leeching cunts that don't deserve anything.
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Second Brexit




They count the state of Washington as a "colony"? It has the word "Washington" in it.

Also I'm not sure I would count Antarctica unless we are talking about penguin colonies.
Yup, but any Brit can jump in for final confirmation.

I do remember the incident when British Embassy gave them "burning cake" or something on the 4th of July( i could be wrong here). it's possible i guess. British humor  Grin

And I don't know anything about penguin colonies.

Correct
BCH fan? Cheesy
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I think it’s r0ach’s date for the weekend.

r0ach is a famous person troll here in this thread?

I enjoy reading everyone here.

Correct
legendary
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I think it’s r0ach’s date for the weekend.

r0ach is a famous person troll here in this thread?

I enjoy reading everyone here.
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...... 
Furthermore, my "hope" was that the bottom would be in, even though I accept that there remains a slightly greater than a 50% chance that the bottom is not in... In other words, I don't want to presume that the current range goes down to $2.5k which would also presume that the bottom is not "in" even though I accept that there are greater than 50% chances that we could have a lower bottom - especially since such lower bottom has not happened yet.. which means that there are decent chances (maybe 45% to 48%) that no further bottom is going to happen in this correction cycle.

Whoa! A plethora of bottoms in that wordy pile and not even one nice bottom meme?


Hold my beer, I got this, man.



WTF is this? Is that part of a human?

I think it’s r0ach’s date for the weekend.
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Degenerate bull hatter & Bitcoin monotheist
Fox News had proof of Stormy Daniels before the election but the story was stopped because “Murdoch wants Trump to win”.  

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Good reporting, kiddo. But Rupert [Murdoch] wants Donald Trump to win. So just let it go," LaCorte reportedly said.

https://thehill.com/homenews/media/432430-fox-killed-stormy-daniels-hush-money-report-before-election-new-yorker

The reporter who uncovered the story was demoted and then paid out by Fox News in a confidential settlement in return for staying silent about Trump. 
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...... 
Furthermore, my "hope" was that the bottom would be in, even though I accept that there remains a slightly greater than a 50% chance that the bottom is not in... In other words, I don't want to presume that the current range goes down to $2.5k which would also presume that the bottom is not "in" even though I accept that there are greater than 50% chances that we could have a lower bottom - especially since such lower bottom has not happened yet.. which means that there are decent chances (maybe 45% to 48%) that no further bottom is going to happen in this correction cycle.

Whoa! A plethora of bottoms in that wordy pile and not even one nice bottom meme?


Hold my beer, I got this, man.



WTF is this? Is that part of a human?
legendary
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Self-Custody is a right. Say no to"Non-custodial"


I can name 3000 coins that literally came out of my ass that can do the same thing.

No you can't.

There is only one bitcoin, and when push comes to shove (for example if they were under government attack or traditional banking attack), all 3,000 of those supposed coins that you cannot even list would not have liquidity or network (node) effects to accomplish such with impunity like bitcoin can.

What? Muster up the measly 2.8 million US dollars of total aggregate system-wide value that the LN contains? Au contraire, mon frere.

I am referring to bitcoin as a package, and lightning is one optional and supplemental component of such bitcoin package.  Don't get LN mixed up with the real bitcoin, jbreher, as I know you like to convolute your facts/arguments in order to make nonsensical points in order to pump other shit (as if there were some other shit out there, that matters, besides bitcoin).  In other words, you might want to join sirsplashalot in the fucking off portion that I mentioned in my earlier post (the part that you conveniently edited out)....  Tongue Tongue Tongue
legendary
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#bitcoin chart update: 14 months to halving. Note that 2011 bottom was at 12 months, and 2015 bottom at 10 months before halving .. 🚀

https://twitter.com/100trillionUSD/status/1102122695683133440

I want to challenge the main premise here.
BTC bottomed up on Jan 14 2015, NOT in August of 2015.
The preponderance of evidence says it:

1. Daily closing was higher on ALL exchanges on Aug 24 vs Jan 14, 2015.
2. Only one or two exchanges had a deep plunge on Aug 24, 2015. In fact the LOWEST average exchange price on that day is $196.26 in comparison with $157.29 on Jan 14.
https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/BTC-USD/history?period1=1420351200&period2=1443934800&interval=1d&filter=history&frequency=1d

Conclusion: The fact that ONE exchange (was it stamp or finex, I don't remember) was affected intraday is totally irrelevant.
Recorded BTC index price for that day (Aug 24) shows $196.26 intraday low, so this should be sufficient.

Moving on to authors conclusions:

2012 low was 12 mo before halving

2015 low was almost 18 mo before halving on July 10, 2016 (and not 10 mo as per author's assertion).

Counting from Dec 14 2018 local low, next halving would be in about 18 mo after low, which would actually fit the lengthening trend very well (12, 18, 18).

TL;DR The author suggests a shrinking lead time, which is not supported by anything except an intraday low on one exchange.

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Be a bank
He doesn't give any fucks https://twitter.com/CryptoHayes/status/1102617809937416192

some good memes in thread eg


or somewhat manic or power trippy
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