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sr. member
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#TheGoyimKnow
*controlled by the big miners

You bring up a good point of where bitcoin clearly became an emperor with no clothes - the segwit debacle.  People started claiming miners have no power over the system and it's supposed to operate the same way as proof of stake except signaled by nodes instead of stake - in other words, a sybil attack.  And this statement was not being preached by some random fool like Micgoossens, but the self proclaimed bitcoin developers themselves.  The whole power structure became a complete joke at that point and it was blatantly obvious it's a failed project.
full member
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What doesn't kill you, makes you stronger
Stock market seems to be going red today... Should we expect the cryptocurrencies to continue the fashion of mimicking the stocks' movements?
It doesn't make much sense to me, but I believe we should.
legendary
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Self made HODLER ✓
r0ach, why don't you just leverage all your silver in a short against Bitcoin like right now? Put your money where your fucking mouth is or just shut the fuck up.
full member
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only hodl what you understand and love!
= hardfork --> ASIC resistant  Kiss Wink

hardfork = your coin has central bankers

*not that they all aren't centralized anyway making this statement redundant

I hope you do not want to tell me, that the "voted"* BTC forks are better  Roll Eyes

*controlled by the big miners
hero member
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Homo Sapiens Bitcoinerthalensis
Good day ladies & gentlemen,

Can we have a little extra speculation on the sex dolls stuff, especially on when to expect an Ex-Machina style - Japanese GUI one please.
Also if we can elaborate on the cost - in BTC of course.
Thank you.

Do excuse me, I have to go take a shower Grin


Well,
sr. member
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#TheGoyimKnow
= hardfork --> ASIC resistant  Kiss Wink

hardfork = your coin has central bankers

*not that they all aren't centralized anyway making this statement redundant
full member
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only hodl what you understand and love!
https://twitter.com/fluffypony/status/1080122112935895040

monero does the hippest thing on the planet

doesn't pump lol


Tough to pump without a premine. Wink

Or ninjadarkcloseticobeforeeverybodyelseknowsthesecretpremine  Grin Cheesy Wink

1. Create ASIC resistant coin

2. Secretly mine it with ASICs

= hardfork --> ASIC resistant  Kiss Wink
sr. member
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#TheGoyimKnow
common r0ach

I suppose you didn't like my obviously true statement that purchasing a fake commodity (any craptocurrency) gives you 0 leverage over anyone while purchasing a real commodity does.  This is probably the most obvious reason fake commodity money is always doomed to go to zero and why real commodity money (physical metals) is guaranteed to win - they offer actual leverage.
legendary
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yes
Fuck that, I wouldn't pay any and I would take the steps required to make sure I never have to pay any. This is one of the reasons why I left Euroland decades ago.

A 1.2% flat tax is actually a lot better than capital gains taxes which are usually much higher and much, much more complex. I do not know the capacity of the tax authorities to check one's crypto wealth but we have a saying in the Netherlands that you should not start a fight with:

1. the King
2. Johan Cruyff (meanwhile, he is deceased)
3. the tax authorities

Why create a potential fight with a strong and powerful enemy instead of paying a few FIAT crumbs as taxes? If they can't track it now, it does not mean they cannot track it later on  Roll Eyes

There is a difference between what we wish to be true and reality. Taxes are among them. And in the Netherlands, a lot of things are taken rather good care of with community money (from taxes). No swats of beggars on the streets and such.
legendary
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BTC + Crossfit, living life.
common r0ach

change the F*** back you're avatar

can' take you serious anymore




meh never could, but sometimes have really good laughs with your nonsens, copy and whatsapp them a lot of times to friends and we all are laughing with you're being A COMPLETE IDIOT TROLL   Roll Eyes
legendary
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Be a bank
Good day ladies & gentlemen,

Can we have a little extra speculation on the sex dolls stuff, especially on when to expect an Ex-Machina style - Japanese GUI one please.
Also if we can elaborate on the cost - in BTC of course.
Thank you.

Do excuse me, I have to go take a shower Grin
legendary
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BTC + Crossfit, living life.
I think I haven't read anyone posting about the XMAS/NEW YEAR conversations about Bitcoin on the table.... Maybe the nocoiners were so disgusting you guys don't wanna talk about it? lol

In my case... no conversation about it. The only one at the table that knows I am into Bitcoin was my GF and she is a hodler since 2013 and has instructions to never talk about it with anyone else.

I can confirm from personal experience and discussing with other Bitcoiner friends how their experiences were, that nocoiners who had traditional investments did not want bring up Bitcoin bc they had taken such a beating in December.

While the Dow and SP500 were down significantly in the month, many small time investors were hit extra hard bc they often have riskier portfolios loaded up with popular tech goodies like FANG stocks that got slaughtered.

Nocoiners who have no investments at all have always been more open minded to hearing about Bitcoin in my experience. I have personally converted many nocoiners into Bitcoiners in the last five years and almost every one of them had zero investments at the time, making Bitcoin their first ever investment.

My nocoiner conversion method is pretty simple. I tried dozens of ways and stuck with the one that worked the best.

I tell them that if they dont own at least one Bitcoin then they may feel suicidal when it hits one million dollars bc they didnt make a small investment.

Very few of my converts have acquired a complete coin but it has become a goal of them all to get one coin.

Funny story but my first convert was my father, and he is my only convert who went back to nocoinery, all the rest still HODL.

He purchased 1.1 BTC in 2014. In early 2015 around 220 usd/btc he said he didnt want to hold it anymore and he couldnt handle the huge swings. I found this humorous bc he is very well off and heavily invested in stocks and mutual funds since the 70's, so his portfolio swings on a daily basis by massive dollar amounts just bc of how large it is. But somehow the Bitcoin that he spent peanuts on bothered him emotionally with its large percent swings. He said i could have the coin, and I of course accepted and added it to my Hodl stash.

What is even more funny is how when in 2017 at the end of the epic bull run, he told me I got lucky with the investment. He thought this was some kind of compliment, but I took offense naturally and I reminded him how hard it was for him to handle the swings of 1.1 coins and to imagine how hard it was for me to handle the swings when I had a large amount and it was 100 percent of my net worth. I explained it wasnt luck but vision and the will to fight and hodl and never surrender no matter how hard it got. The will to die for your coins. He quickly apologized and said luck was a poor choice of words. Roll Eyes



If you thought I was going to forget to mention that we are in a bull run and to go smoke some good Hopium and enjoy the health benefits documented by 9 surgeon generals, you were wrong Cheesy



belief me when i say I have a friend that is really OG BTC'er and one with very big knowledge on the matter, but he converted me into a coiner and we have become very good friends, in his close friend group he maybe turned in 2-3 peoples into coiners, from the moment I became a coiner(whiteout any knowledge), I turned in minimum 25-30 into holding BTC (probably the no betters owning more in alts) but they are in and i know some have whole BTC some are trying to get it ......
and 0 bought when I was buying(winning) @350-ish, 2 very good friends bought @ 900-1000-ish, my brother was all the way with me and my father was the worst he was always a know better and get burned every time ( the classic things like buying all the alts that someone said was gonna moon and shit)
now the most of friends and people start buying when my friend opened his investment fund for crypto and that was august 2017 when the price was 3000-ish i guess...., also a few later around november-december.
very much people with less understanding went into that, and start learning buying some on the side .....
of course there are some that left the market, but most of them have some kind of future perspective where the world will need BTC
or some kind of digital asset/currency... of course not everybody thought is the same but most of them are becoming long term believers i guess.
I know my closest friends are and while many are in loses, they are buying every month of there pay-checks, and trying to accumulate where they can, so i think thats very very positive.  

sr. member
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#TheGoyimKnow
I tell them that if they dont own at least one Bitcoin then they may feel suicidal when it hits one million dollars bc they didnt make a small investment.

In other words, you're advertising shitcoins as an actual Ponzi scam.  Buy shitcoins now because it's guaranteed to go to $1 million each.  Forget the fact it's a fake commodity and even if you corner the entire market and own all 21 million of them, you have 0 leverage to force other people to buy your coins.  

They can simply create a new shitcoin or just ignore you entirely and use real commodity money like silver or gold instead.  If someone corners the market on a real commodity whether it's silver, lumber, anything, you're forced to buy at whatever price they ask that the market can bear.  If you corner the market on a fake commodity, people just laugh at you and give you the middle finger.  And that is your lesson of the day in people who have leverage vs people who don't.
legendary
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Degenerate bull hatter & Bitcoin monotheist
https://twitter.com/fluffypony/status/1080122112935895040

monero does the hippest thing on the planet

doesn't pump lol


Tough to pump without a premine. Wink

Or ninjadarkcloseticobeforeeverybodyelseknowsthesecretpremine  Grin Cheesy Wink

1. Create ASIC resistant coin

2. Secretly mine it with ASICs
hero member
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Homo Sapiens Bitcoinerthalensis
Good day ladies & gentlemen,

Can we have a little extra speculation on the sex dolls stuff, especially on when to expect an Ex-Machina style - Japanese GUI one please.
Also if we can elaborate on the cost - in BTC of course.
Thank you.

Do excuse me, I have to go take a shower Grin
legendary
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BTC + Crossfit, living life.
Guess a year where sex with a sex-robot will feel the same (or better) than sex with a female?

When we ourselves are robots, or brains in jars having our pleasure centres tickled.

I could not imagine warming up some dead eyed object and then forgetting that I filled it with my filthy outpourings the previous week. Whatever boner I could muster these days would rapidly disappear again.

Think Westworld

F*** I still didn't saw the second season

but its winter i'll be catching up real fast

jr. member
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Always believe in magic
Im long eth/btc till 1.35
legendary
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BTC + Crossfit, living life.
so 03 januari anything happening ?

legendary
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Thanks man, I totally forgot haha!

This year will be strange paying taxes, on 11.2k / BTC (in NL you have to pay 1.2% on the value of your crypto on the first of january of the fiscal year). But not hard to do, I love my country so I have no problem paying some taxes.

Is that a 1.2% wealth tax? Do you have to pay that on all assets every year? Yikes!

LOL, who would do that? Who would declare their crypto holdings and pay taxes. Does NL government know how to evaluate the crypto holdings? Is there a guidline how to determnine the market price, which exchange to use? How about determining price of the illiquit coins? So you have a ton of shitcoin, worth at 1 dollar per shitcoi, but if you ought to sell it, the price would collapse to 1 cent. How do you pricve thats into account?  Do you also have to take snapshots of online items such as game items that could be sold for money? Do you have to pay 1.2% tax on money you have? If you earned 1 million and paid all income tax and on top of that, at the end of the year have to pay 1.2% ? This is ridiculous. Statement - i love my country, so i pay taxes is ridiculous. Like - i love my country too, but i love myself more, therefore i am not happy of paying wealth tax.

Fuck that, I wouldn't pay any and I would take the steps required to make sure I never have to pay any. This is one of the reasons why I left Euroland decades ago.
full member
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only hodl what you understand and love!
https://twitter.com/fluffypony/status/1080122112935895040

monero does the hippest thing on the planet

doesn't pump lol


Tough to pump without a premine. Wink

Or ninjadarkcloseticobeforeeverybodyelseknowsthesecretpremine  Grin Cheesy Wink
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