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Thanks man, I totally forgot haha!

This year will be strange paying taxes, on 11.2k / BTC (in NL you have to pay 1.2% on the value of your crypto on the first of january of the fiscal year). But not hard to do, I love my country so I have no problem paying some taxes.

Is that a 1.2% wealth tax? Do you have to pay that on all assets every year? Yikes!

LOL, who would do that? Who would declare their crypto holdings and pay taxes. Does NL government know how to evaluate the crypto holdings? Is there a guidline how to determnine the market price, which exchange to use? How about determining price of the illiquit coins? So you have a ton of shitcoin, worth at 1 dollar per shitcoi, but if you ought to sell it, the price would collapse to 1 cent. How do you pricve thats into account?  Do you also have to take snapshots of online items such as game items that could be sold for money? Do you have to pay 1.2% tax on money you have? If you earned 1 million and paid all income tax and on top of that, at the end of the year have to pay 1.2% ? This is ridiculous. Statement - i love my country, so i pay taxes is ridiculous. Like - i love my country too, but i love myself more, therefore i am not happy of paying wealth tax.
legendary
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good one!

well, roomba self-cleans now, so maybe your ouporings would be put to good use somehow, lol.

Every phrase I can associate with the idea - self cleaning, rechargeable, Amazon - used acceptable, 2 year warranty, realistic gag reflex, pleading mode, barely legal pack, carry case - is a stake through the heart of my desire.

Wait till they introduce the realistic sigh's and huff's model with actual human teeth in the vagina. Tell me you're still not interested now.


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I also love my country but....the goverment can kiss my ars  Tongue

My Country has become a politically correct cess pool. They can kiss my ass if they think I’m declaring any taxes on bitcoin until I really have to.

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I think I haven't read anyone posting about the XMAS/NEW YEAR conversations about Bitcoin on the table.... Maybe the nocoiners were so disgusting you guys don't wanna talk about it? lol

In my case... no conversation about it. The only one at the table that knows I am into Bitcoin was my GF and she is a hodler since 2013 and has instructions to never talk about it with anyone else.

I tell them that if they dont own at least one Bitcoin then they may feel suicidal when it hits one million dollars bc they didnt make a small investment.

I also tell people to just get one. I think it is a good balance between having them invest too little and feeling guilty if they invest too much. I only tell this to people who can afford one easily but I just say, buy one and forget about it for 10 years. 3500 today and a million in 10 years. It really is a no-brainer for those that waste that much each month on stupid shit anyway...
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I have tried with someone I care about. 

He’s just not interested without some sort of guarantee of return.  Highly risk adverse. 

So not a lot I can do. 

A few more halvings and he will be stocking up 16%
Its all about the deflationary nature, not retailers.
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https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-01-01/pay-fck-hackers-threaten-dump-secret-911-attack-files-if-bitcoin-ransom-not-met

 My elite Jewish financiers(the ones that pay my team to monitor Virgin Roach) will be purchasing some large amounts of Bitcoin soon to pay these hackers. Stay tuned for a massive pump. These friends have told me the hackers have gotten their hands on some very hush hush material so you better believe lots of implicated parties will be forking over coins on the low.
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I think I haven't read anyone posting about the XMAS/NEW YEAR conversations about Bitcoin on the table.... Maybe the nocoiners were so disgusting you guys don't wanna talk about it? lol

In my case... no conversation about it. The only one at the table that knows I am into Bitcoin was my GF and she is a hodler since 2013 and has instructions to never talk about it with anyone else.

I can confirm from personal experience and discussing with other Bitcoiner friends how their experiences were, that nocoiners who had traditional investments did not want bring up Bitcoin bc they had taken such a beating in December.

While the Dow and SP500 were down significantly in the month, many small time investors were hit extra hard bc they often have riskier portfolios loaded up with popular tech goodies like FANG stocks that got slaughtered.

Nocoiners who have no investments at all have always been more open minded to hearing about Bitcoin in my experience. I have personally converted many nocoiners into Bitcoiners in the last five years and almost every one of them had zero investments at the time, making Bitcoin their first ever investment.

My nocoiner conversion method is pretty simple. I tried dozens of ways and stuck with the one that worked the best.

I tell them that if they dont own at least one Bitcoin then they may feel suicidal when it hits one million dollars bc they didnt make a small investment.

Very few of my converts have acquired a complete coin but it has become a goal of them all to get one coin.

Funny story but my first convert was my father, and he is my only convert who went back to nocoinery, all the rest still HODL.

He purchased 1.1 BTC in 2014. In early 2015 around 220 usd/btc he said he didnt want to hold it anymore and he couldnt handle the huge swings. I found this humorous bc he is very well off and heavily invested in stocks and mutual funds since the 70's, so his portfolio swings on a daily basis by massive dollar amounts just bc of how large it is. But somehow the Bitcoin that he spent peanuts on bothered him emotionally with its large percent swings. He said i could have the coin, and I of course accepted and added it to my Hodl stash.

What is even more funny is how when in 2017 at the end of the epic bull run, he told me I got lucky with the investment. He thought this was some kind of compliment, but I took offense naturally and I reminded him how hard it was for him to handle the swings of 1.1 coins and to imagine how hard it was for me to handle the swings when I had a large amount and it was 100 percent of my net worth. I explained it wasnt luck but vision and the will to fight and hodl and never surrender no matter how hard it got. The will to die for your coins. He quickly apologized and said luck was a poor choice of words. Roll Eyes



If you thought I was going to forget to mention that we are in a bull run and to go smoke some good Hopium and enjoy the health benefits documented by 9 surgeon generals, you were wrong Cheesy

legendary
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I have tried with someone I care about.  

He’s just not interested without some sort of guarantee of return.  Highly risk adverse.  

So not a lot I can do.  

I was referring more about the negative jokes coming from relatives that already know you are into Bitcoin and with all the FUD and all think you must be really upset and almost ruined... things like that.

I have never tried to convince anyone... except for a very close friend that is also very tech inclined and I convinced him to buy a pocket change amount to play with the concept in early 2017. Of course, the pocket change amount had a very nice grow, he extracted the little FIAT he put in and is hodling the rest.

I didn't even try to convince my GF back in 2013. I totally told her there was some probability to lose it ALL and to think about it as some sort of game/bet in a casino.... but in the end we did a couple of shared (50%) buys.

Even if she have less Bitcoin than me her ROI is *way* higher than mine.

OTHO, I have helped a couple other friends that were determined to buy. But I always make sure they really understand the underlaying risks before helping.

Anyway, Bitcoin is obviously not for risk adverse people. In fact I am a very risk adverse guy. Had I not been I would have stepped with a more sizeable amount from the very beginning.

legendary
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I have tried with someone I care about. 

He’s just not interested without some sort of guarantee of return.  Highly risk adverse. 

So not a lot I can do. 
legendary
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I think I haven't read anyone posting about the XMAS/NEW YEAR conversations about Bitcoin on the table.... Maybe the nocoiners were so disgusting you guys don't wanna talk about it? lol

In my case... no conversation about it. The only one at the table that knows I am into Bitcoin was my GF and she is a hodler since 2013 and has instructions to never talk about it with anyone else.
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I'm surprised how few people have figured out what's going on with things like this.  People keep claiming the "#metoo" movement has gone overboard but that has nothing to do with what's going on at all.  The following example is solely related to the hordes of stupid, fat women that voted for Hillary Clinton.  The second any of these people suspect you have not been brainwashed into Jewish Marxism and might have possibly voted for Trump instead, they engage in the standard, dishonorable, female tactics of passive aggressive behavior and lying to try and destroy you.



I've noticed the look and easily readable thoughts from many of these obese and stupid women before.  The first time they see you, you can tell the first thing that's going through their head is "is this person on the same team as me or not?".  Lesson of the day is, do not associate with mentally ill Marxists in any form.  Let them rot.  And yes, all fat women are going to be mentally ill Marxists because that side has promised them the world (a bunch of lies they can't and won't deliver on).

It's not really their own fault.  The Jews simply recruit everyone with an axe to grind against white males on their own team then hyper-charge them with bogus propaganda to try and get them to be cannon fodder and fight their wars for them.  Lesbians, fat women, minorities - these are all the mindless cannon fodder of the Jew because Jews are weaklings who will not and cannot fight their own wars or they'll be instantly destroyed.
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Hey r0ach, what's the new avatar?  Significance? 
I kinda liked the retarded/farting dog and the actual roach one before. Self explanatory they were.

BDSM practice for Gembitz
legendary
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Jan 15 is a particularly special date. You don’t have a sub-$3k option. 

Hmm. Yeah, my numbers are skewed to the upside a little too much. I'm going to reset the poll.
legendary
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Hey r0ach, what's the new avatar?  Significance? 
I kinda liked the retarded/farting dog and the actual roach one before. Self explanatory they were.
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#TheGoyimKnow
Next bull run will be driven by institutional investors.

Joe sickpack will be buying at new highs so whales can dumping on them..again.

legendary
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what's all this happy fucking new year bullshit?!?

2019 is looking to be a major shit show, I don't see any happiness anywhere this year, sorry but that's the truth ...

climate marxists have infested the largest institutions and are spreading their filthy eco-facist lies and propaganda ... the world is in debt of historic proportions, most of which will be defaulted on or inflated out of existence .... wealth, assets, means-of-production and yields are becoming concentrated in fewer and fewer hands ... decision making and power is becoming increasingly centralised and prone to corruption, incompetence, failed ideologies and nonsensical thinking ... individuals wanting true freedom make plans to build their own islands in the middle of the fucking ocean is how fucked up things are

happy fucking new year chumps, stick it!

 Cheesy

Retailers will not touch Bitcoin for a long time to come. Next bull run will be driven by institutional investors.

Joe sickpack will be buying at new highs so whales can dumping on them..again. This is how it always goes, right?

legendary
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Thanks man, I totally forgot haha!

This year will be strange paying taxes, on 11.2k / BTC (in NL you have to pay 1.2% on the value of your crypto on the first of january of the fiscal year). But not hard to do, I love my country so I have no problem paying some taxes.

I never paid any taxes so far. Keeping a low profile untill i ritire.

I also love my country but....the goverment can kiss my ars  Tongue
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2019 - Operation stop all imaginary, valueless, fiat 2.0, digital craptocurrency tokens continues.
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