Topic: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion - page 12632. (Read 26712373 times)

So... which price will be the bottom?

Interestingly, it's almost like at the BTC/BCH fork happened more than 1 year ago.

2021 was just a guess of mine for when we might see a huge increase in price. I was just going off the pattern we usually see post halving. The next halving is mid 2020 so I’m thinking/hoping we’ll see a new ATH as previously 6-12 months after the halving.

I make good fiat in my life, I have my own business that earns me a good salary so this is not going to kill me.
My hope is that bitcoin makes me a multimillionaire post halving.
I’m waiting for $40,000 - $50,000 per coin then I’ll sell about half.

I can wait until 2022 & onwards but mid 2021 (ish) is my dream scenario.

I'm now happy that I've already lost 80% of my portfolios value. Can't really seem to bother anymore about losing another 5% or so. I have about 25 years to go untill my desired retirement kicks in. Time is on my side.

Crazy week, no doubt. Definitely picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue.

no follow through on this little pullback and no volume, prepare for lower prices

The hashwar is costing only around $1 million daily. That's not the reason. CSW/Calvin selling/shorting the market while they make every effort to spread chaos maybe is.

All charts are hidsight of course. IMO their main usefulness  is in telling us why/how a particular price move happened.

My own methodology starts with the premise that a Bear Market has a job to do. That job is to shake out the weak hands. The higher the previous rise, the harder the job will be ,hence the use of % retracements etc (which are flawed anyway).

How the weak hands are shaken out is a combination of circumstance. The BCH/SV debacle is merely one of those random circumstances : the fall was due anyway. In fact, better to get it over with, deep , sharp and quick. Slow attrition is harder to recover from.

In BTC terms this is not a crash. $2000 next week is a crash.

So I kind of agree with you, the jury is still out . They never really reach a verdict until its all over.

 

Just read on Reddit that this drop could be Due to Craig and Johan hash war.

Those two Bitcoin billionaires and scolding their BTC to fund their hashwar.

Dropping but still the best coin around. Can't see it going in the 1000-2000$ territory as some say. No way.

For me it's more scary to catch a flying rocket than a falling knife!

PS: I forgot the reply tab open for about 30 minutes and 21 new replies have already been posted!

Actually, yes.  That is another factor.  The halvening.  Surely it is understandable that beartards and shils may want to keep the price down before and after the halvening, but they can only do so much when the new supply shrinks and the effects of that shrinkage is felt, so even if the shills and the beartards are successful keeping (or suppressing) the BTC price for the longest case scenario, they are going to b on the outside of their abilities to accomplish that by late 2020.. so about 2 years would be the most reasonable longest maximum of this bear market, if we were to go into one right now (or confirm  such bear market)

You snipped out part of my post in which I attempted to assert that I am possibly coming over to your side, but I am not going to come easily.

Surely, it was disappointed to see $5,800 support break, but the reasons are not bitcoin specific, but still I understand that some of the broader cryptospace can pull BTC prices down, due to froth in the space... but I am still not going to give in and to assume 1-2 years in the doldrums, which a 2014 scenario might reasonably presume.

In other words, yeah.. no two corrections are alike, and I am not even conceding bear market yet, even though bear maket would kind of put us into further downward trajectory, like you suggested into the below $3k arena... which I surely have my doubts that we are going there.. but I might be willing to concede if this current situation does not bounce back sufficiently in the coming weeks.



O.k. We read differently, and I don't concede that a previous pattern implies the next pattern either in duration nor in intensity... especially when the way up was different in this 2017 one, too.  In other words, you cannot just begin from the downward point, you have to consider both the upwards slope that got to the top and the downward slope, not just one side of it.


I concede  that odds are higher in your direction now, but I am not going to give in, yet.

wouldn't surprise me, socio/pschopaths like to destroy everything they can't control or win over. If that is the case I take solace in knowing that he will fail. Watch where he is in 10 years, he'll be out of this industry and trying the same shit with another. The guy is a con man.

Yep, perhaps that prick pulled a stunt. It does feel different then '15, was more like an organic capitulation back then.

I hope so.  That would mark a proper bottom (but be prepared for the plunge to intensify first). Shorts eventually have to be closed.

I think that CSW asshole shorted the market big time before engaging in the ridiculous war against Ver/Jihan. He always knew he couldn't win.

I think it's safe to say at this point that the price is artificially depressed. It won't be 3 years with the halvening coming up.

What ?  You really still think the 2013 scenario is possible ?  


I know we read the charts differently, but surely the 2014 was already confirmed by the length and shape of the downtrend ?  This latest plunge just hammers it home.


I want to see a bounce, I hope for recovery soon, but the realist in me is hunkered down for a 3 year winter.

I know what you mean

Same base money for me. It's all numbers, just treat it like a game. I'm thinking very long term, as in the rest of my life. It has always been sink or swim.