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Quote from: Last of the V8s on July 13, 2018, 11:29:35 AM

What the fuck is wrong with forum..its a cesspit of shit posters and third world bounty whore posters. But when a glimmer of intelligent discussion comes from Anonymint aka Shelby Moore he gets deleted. I dont care what he did or who he pissed off. He is probably the last chance this forum holds any relevance into the next stage of crypto. Geeez wept. Whats wrong with you mods?

For the sake of the crypto community let the guy share discuss and argue his points. Ffs

Time to make a new forum don’t you think?

We need a forum that runs on a blockchain and nobody can delete anything. With decentralized moderation, meaning each of us separately can choose which mods we trust to filter content for each of us independent from each other.

It is ridiculous that we in crypto use a CORRUPT, PERMISSIONED, CENTRALIZED forum just like LN is intended to be.

It is so stupid to invest effort into what becomes a booty for CENTRALIZED, CORRUPT mods to steal.

I didn't like anunymint. His posts were too long (I'm sure not many were reading them actually, me included), he cursed core devs like a kid would do, he was (in my opinion) spreading FUD about segwit but somehow i still wanted him to be around. Grin

I liked his price forecasts at least. (I don't know much about it since I put him on my ignore list)

He was posting excessively and that's true, he was evading his ban and that's true too. Banning him was probably the right choice. But deleting everything including our responses... that's daym excessive. That's pretty hardcore. By hardcore I mean, 2nd world war, take no prisoners hardcore.

Still, your idea of decentralized forum will never work.

People will be abusing it to hell. What if CP lovers be the majority there? Hard/Centralized moderation is the only choice.

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https://dailystormer.name/jews-are-still-gloating-about-murdering-the-tsars-children/

The hebrew moneychangers dislike monarchy because monarchy usually represents an ethnocentric majority represented by one of their own, who generally doesn't allow foreign entities (jews) to just walk in and enslave his people with their scams. This is one reason Jews were heavily involved in the French revolution. As evidenced by history in places like Rome, the common man usually lived better under the Caesars than under the senate.

A senate is just a decentralized tyranny/looters with no accountability to anyone and almost impossible to get rid of. With only a single figurehead of the state (something like a constitutional monarchy), there is actual accountability because the people just kill the king if he gets out of control to solve their problems. Getting rid of an entire corrupt house and senate takes a lot more effort, and you might have to wait until they cause the collapse of civilization itself with their self serving agenda and looting before it happens.

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Quote from: realr0ach on July 13, 2018, 11:18:08 AM

cheers

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after a nice afternoon of cruising around the island on a vespa scooter and drinking a few drinks I was thinking how would my TA look like so I did my thinking and made an effort of drawing one but still looks the same like many .... same ending

also the other side of the table got me to distracted of making something better

we all know HODL-BTFD-MOON-PASSING MOON-NO UPSIDE ENDING.........

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Quote from: Last of the V8s on July 13, 2018, 11:16:54 AM

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-44825345
http://www.wfmz.com/news/live-rosenstein-makes-law-enforcement-announcement/767609021
cryptocurrency shoutout
all in!

(((rosenstein)))

Another day of failed attempts by Jews to try and get their enemies - white Americans and White Russians - to fight and kill one another. Better not make that propaganda too obvious Schlomo, because the white Americans and white Russians team up then come looking for you.

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https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-44825345
http://www.wfmz.com/news/live-rosenstein-makes-law-enforcement-announcement/767609021
cryptocurrency shoutout
all in!

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Quote from: Anon136 on July 13, 2018, 10:33:54 AM

Quote from: Anon136 on July 13, 2018, 10:33:54 AM

Who would have thought that you could take down two skyscrapers with a bunch of box cutters?

Not me. I am of the opinion that the governments official conspiracy theory is one of the least plausible of the many conspiracy theories I have encountered regarding that event.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuC_4mGTs98 Their story is actually rather comical when you lay it all out.

Let me think. Who could there possibly be that exists who benefits overwhelmingly from 9/11....

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Quote from: Anon136 on July 13, 2018, 10:33:54 AM

Who would have thought that you could take down two skyscrapers with a bunch of box cutters?

Not me. I am of the opinion that the governments official conspiracy theory is one of the least plausible of the many conspiracy theories I have encountered regarding that event.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuC_4mGTs98 Their story is actually rather comical when you lay it all out.

Just because a theory put forward is the "least plausible" doesn't necessarily make it untrue. In any event, even if you look at the other theories explaining what happened on 9/11, they all seem pretty incredible to me, so my analogy still stands.

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Quote from: vroom on July 13, 2018, 10:26:18 AM

Quote from: Anon136 on July 13, 2018, 10:24:10 AM

Did my comment the other day start all this mempool talk I have been seeing lately? I don't remember anyone replying to it so I thought it had no impact but I also don't remember people talking about the mempool so much before it so maybe it had more impact than I thought.

So far, it would appear increasing mempool size is a bullish indicator.

At least IMO, FWIW.

The way I see it is that it just tells whether people are moving their coins to an exchange. So what it really tells you is that the price is about to move. Look at other factors to figure out, if you assume that the price is about to move, which direction would it move.

could also mean people bought bitcoin on exchanges and are moving them to private wallets now. or increased adaption. or just spam, who knows.

No I don't think so. Spam maybe but the only good reason I can think of for a random burst of spam is to spoof people who are watching the mempool as an indicator. Possible, interested in what others think about the possibility of this. But if we remove spam from that list I don't think the other things can explain a random rapid surge in the mempool size very well.

Adoption is a gradual thing, I mean even if Trump him self came out tomorrow and said "I'm ordering the us treasury to buy bitcorns hand over fist!" All the investors who came running to sign up for exchanges wouldn't all be getting on at the same time. And they wouldn't all be trying to withdraw at the same time. Many would leave funds on the exchange for a while, some forever. Their withdraws would be staggered, it wouldn't show a big spike in the mempool size.

A sudden spike, I still think, is an indicator of panic. It could be FOMO panic or panic from crashing prices but it has to be some sort of panic. (or maybe spam if that is actually happening)

Quote from: gentlemand on July 13, 2018, 10:17:22 AM

Who would have thought that you could take down two skyscrapers with a bunch of box cutters?

Not me. I am of the opinion that the governments official conspiracy theory is one of the least plausible of the many conspiracy theories I have encountered regarding that event.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuC_4mGTs98 Their story is actually rather comical when you lay it all out.

you are right, (FOMO) panic is also very likely. but there are no actual news which could cause such panic, we are sideways for weeks now.

I'm also interested in other possibilities for such an increase.

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Quote from: Last of the V8s on July 13, 2018, 10:11:28 AM

Surely they want in on the pie themselves, though? Or are they the only honest bureaucrats on the planet?
Rules are made for bending and often blatant breaking.

I would've thought the first rule of bureaucracy was - cover your arse.

Second rule - choose the path of least resistance.

But I guess an SEC person will be a slightly more exotic breed.

No actually that does ring very true. They can get in on the action on the sidelines, and then after a bit of ahem delay like you also said, deny it.

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Quote from: vroom on July 13, 2018, 10:26:18 AM

Quote from: Anon136 on July 13, 2018, 10:24:10 AM

Did my comment the other day start all this mempool talk I have been seeing lately? I don't remember anyone replying to it so I thought it had no impact but I also don't remember people talking about the mempool so much before it so maybe it had more impact than I thought.

So far, it would appear increasing mempool size is a bullish indicator.

At least IMO, FWIW.

The way I see it is that it just tells whether people are moving their coins to an exchange. So what it really tells you is that the price is about to move. Look at other factors to figure out, if you assume that the price is about to move, which direction would it move.

could also mean people bought bitcoin on exchanges and are moving them to private wallets now. or increased adaption. or just spam, who knows.

No I don't think so. Spam maybe but the only good reason I can think of for a random burst of spam is to spoof people who are watching the mempool as an indicator. Possible, interested in what others think about the possibility of this. But if we remove spam from that list I don't think the other things can explain a random rapid surge in the mempool size very well.

Adoption is a gradual thing, I mean even if Trump him self came out tomorrow and said "I'm ordering the us treasury to buy bitcorns hand over fist!" All the investors who came running to sign up for exchanges wouldn't all be getting on at the same time. And they wouldn't all be trying to withdraw at the same time. Many would leave funds on the exchange for a while, some forever. Their withdraws would be staggered, it wouldn't show a big spike in the mempool size.

A sudden spike, I still think, is an indicator of panic. It could be FOMO panic or panic from crashing prices but it has to be some sort of panic. (or maybe spam if that is actually happening)

Quote from: Anon136 on July 13, 2018, 10:24:10 AM

Who would have thought that you could take down two skyscrapers with a bunch of box cutters?

Not me. I am of the opinion that the governments official conspiracy theory is one of the least plausible of the many conspiracy theories I have encountered regarding that event.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuC_4mGTs98 Their story is actually rather comical when you lay it all out.

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Did my comment the other day start all this mempool talk I have been seeing lately? I don't remember anyone replying to it so I thought it had no impact but I also don't remember people talking about the mempool so much before it so maybe it had more impact than I thought.

So far, it would appear increasing mempool size is a bullish indicator.

At least IMO, FWIW.

The way I see it is that it just tells whether people are moving their coins to an exchange. So what it really tells you is that the price is about to move. Look at other factors to figure out, if you assume that the price is about to move, which direction would it move.

could also mean people bought bitcoin on exchanges and are moving them to private wallets now. or increased adaption. or just spam, who knows.

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Quote from: Last of the V8s on July 13, 2018, 10:11:28 AM

Did my comment the other day start all this mempool talk I have been seeing lately? I don't remember anyone replying to it so I thought it had no impact but I also don't remember people talking about the mempool so much before it so maybe it had more impact than I thought.

So far, it would appear increasing mempool size is a bullish indicator.

At least IMO, FWIW.

The way I see it is that it just tells whether people are moving their coins to an exchange. So what it really tells you is that the price is about to move. Look at other factors to figure out, if you assume that the price is about to move, which direction would it move.

Although maybe a lot of people move their coins to an exchange just in case but don't really intend to buy or sell unless things start to get really crazy. They move them on, wait to see if it's going to be a worst or best case scenario, as soon as they see that it is neither, they move them back off.

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Surely they want in on the pie themselves, though? Or are they the only honest bureaucrats on the planet?
Rules are made for bending and often blatant breaking.

I would've thought the first rule of bureaucracy was - cover your arse.

Second rule - choose the path of least resistance.

But I guess an SEC person will be a slightly more exotic breed.

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Quote from: infofront on July 13, 2018, 10:04:17 AM

Quote from: infofront on July 13, 2018, 10:04:17 AM

And there we go; breaking yesterday's mempool high.

Did my comment the other day start all this mempool talk I have been seeing lately? I don't remember anyone replying to it so I thought it had no impact but I also don't remember people talking about the mempool so much before it so maybe it had more impact than I thought.

Holy wow. When they ban someone for life they REALLY ban them. Every thing he ever posted and even posts that were a reply to him; vanished.

Yeah, that's at least the 4th time he's been banned.
Even if you don't care for him or his ideas, it's hard to argue that he's not a net benefit to this forum.

Yes, although his posts are long and give the "feeling" of being conspiracy theories, they are really well thought out. They also encouraged me to do more research on how Bitcoin actually works. Also, just because a theory being proposed appears to be outlandish, doesn't mean it is invalid. Who would have thought that you could take down two skyscrapers with a bunch of box cutters?

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Quote from: gentlemand on July 13, 2018, 10:00:21 AM

And there we go; breaking yesterday's mempool high.

Did my comment the other day start all this mempool talk I have been seeing lately? I don't remember anyone replying to it so I thought it had no impact but I also don't remember people talking about the mempool so much before it so maybe it had more impact than I thought.

Holy wow. When they ban someone for life they REALLY ban them. Every thing he ever posted and even posts that were a reply to him; vanished.

Yeah, that's at least the 4th time he's been banned.
Even if you don't care for him or his ideas, it's hard to argue that he's not a net benefit to this forum.

to be honest I hope we don't make the mistake to overhear and underestimate warning comments. We should avoid living in an echo-chamber, accept critical opinions and reavaluate our knowledge from time to time.

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Quote from: RejectedBanana on July 13, 2018, 09:49:40 AM

So which will be first, the chicken or the egg?

the SEC is waiting for Bitcoin markets to miraculously come under global regulation

That one. Why should they make their life harder than it needs to be? Why bother taking a needless risk? It'll still be here in 5-10 years most likely. The only hurry is in our sweaty little minds.

Agreed this is the most likely reality. Frustrating that the SEC will likely do little to nothing to actually protect and legitimize Bitcoin investors, choosing instead to just cover their own sweaty little asses.

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Quote from: gentlemand on July 13, 2018, 10:00:21 AM

Quote from: RejectedBanana on July 13, 2018, 09:49:40 AM

So which will be first, the chicken or the egg?

the SEC is waiting for Bitcoin markets to miraculously come under global regulation

That one. Why should they make their life harder than it needs to be? Why bother taking a needless risk? It'll still be here in 5-10 years most likely. The only hurry is in our sweaty little minds.

Surely they want in on the pie themselves, though? Or are they the only honest bureaucrats on the planet?
Rules are made for bending and often blatant breaking.

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