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hero member
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Speaking of Bitcoin, who the hell voted for another leg down in the poll. I didn't approve of this.
Bob? Angry

Nope. Voted for $8-$8.5k.

Gotta remain optimistic that this bear run will break "hopefully soon-ish".

I was surprised too... i mean how the hell bitcoin can go <$4,000
I mean how?.... ok why?

Why? Why not?

Best case would be that we get some sideways action. There's no reason to go up. Yet.
legendary
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Privacy Servers. Since 2009.
Speaking of Bitcoin, who the hell voted for another leg down in the poll. I didn't approve of this.
Bob? Angry

Nope. Voted for $8-$8.5k.

Gotta remain optimistic that this bear run will break "hopefully soon-ish".

I was surprised too... i mean how the hell bitcoin can go <$4,000
I mean how?.... ok why?

Then I'm sure we're going up because every time the vote says up we're heading down  Grin
copper member
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Speaking of Bitcoin, who the hell voted for another leg down in the poll. I didn't approve of this.
Bob? Angry

Nope. Voted for $8-$8.5k.

Gotta remain optimistic that this bear run will break "hopefully soon-ish".

I was surprised too... i mean how the hell bitcoin can go <$4,000
I mean how?.... ok why?
legendary
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Self-Custody is a right. Say no to"Non-custodial"
As I posted between there and here, Segwit creates three classes of Bitcoins. Each with distinctly different exposure to security vulnerabilities. 
1) Those that are completely free of any Segwit taint all the way back to their constituent coinbase transactions;
2) Those that are not currently output from a Segwit transaction, but have Segwit taint between here and their constituent coinbase transactions; and
3) Those that are the output of a Segwit transaction.


now trying to pervert the concept of fungibility.

Just because a coin is being used in a specific way that does not make such coin more or less fungible than if such coin is used in another way.

Geeze, JJG - you need to look up the definition of 'fungible'.

Geez jbreher... I see no reason for me to look up anything related to fungibility.  You are trying to make some kind of assertion that lack of fungibility is an issue, and seems that you are just making shit up.

Within the three posts preceding yours, 2/3 of them stated that they were cautious of accepting Segwit transactions until they gained some confidence in it.

Evidence supporting "fungibility" issues in bitcoin is that some peeople are cautiously accepting segwit transactions.... Never heard of such thing, and I doubt it is a problem.. yet.  Again you seem to be making shit up.

Even if I were to have bitcoins in a segwit address, and someone asserted they preferred to receive them from a non segwit address, then I could send.. or maybe there would be two transaction.. but again.. where is the fucking beef about this issue, besides some folks supposedly expressing reservations?  Is anyone actually refusing to accept transactions from segwit addresses?  show some proof.


That is definitively a lack of fungibility. A lack of fungibility is in no way limited to some sort of centralized blacklisting.

O.k.  Fungibility issues would exist if some coins were easier to spend then others or if I could not get my coins sent because of some issue with them being tainted in some kind of way.  Again, where is the evidence of this seemingly fabricated issue  (and if it is not completely fabricated it is surely greatly exaggerated)?

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Sure some BIG BLOCKER nutjobs are going to continue to exaggerate negative speculation, like you seem to be doing, and to spread disinformation about supposed catastrophes of lightning network in order to pump their stupid-ass and largely non-substantiated negative talking points.

If you want to argue the facts of the matter, step up. I made some assertions of fact.

Assertions of facts do not make facts, if you don't show evidence.

Pony up some counter-arguments. If what I said is 'disinformation', then it should be a simple matter for you to put forth proof that they are false.

I have no burden to put forth facts to rebut your bare assertions, because I have not seen anything rising to the level of meaningful facts (beyond assertions about what could happen ... not something that is actually happening)

And I am in no way exaggerating nor claiming catastrophe. I made no value judgement on the matter, and even pointed out that the current debate is how significant these flaws are. All you are doing is bloviating. Buck up or shut up.

There may be discussion going on in BIG blocker disinformation circles?  Where are your  links of discussions beyond your speculation? 
legendary
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Viva Ut Vivas
yeah, it sucks donkey balls

but apparently the universe needs to test our character before granting the rewards

I recommend those that are able make like roombot and pick up some extra hours.

Times like these I envy those that still have paychecks coming in.

I would be doing like I did all through 2015-16...100% paycheck to bitcoin through BitWage.
legendary
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diamond-handed zealot
yeah, it sucks donkey balls

but apparently the universe needs to test our character before granting the rewards

I recommend those that are able make like roombot and pick up some extra hours.
legendary
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Viva Ut Vivas
Speaking of Bitcoin, who the hell voted for another leg down in the poll. I didn't approve of this.

Bob? Angry

I want to be bullish. I think one more good flush.

I think a flirt with 3K is baked in at this point

I'm not spiritually prepared for this. Undecided

I'm not spiritually prepared for the 6K range.
sr. member
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Speaking of Bitcoin, who the hell voted for another leg down in the poll. I didn't approve of this.

Bob? Angry

I want to be bullish. I think one more good flush.

I think a flirt with 3K is baked in at this point

I'm not spiritually prepared for this. Undecided
legendary
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Only in the morning you will find out she is actually "he" Cheesy

https://i.imgur.com/KndCWH3.jpg

hehe, yeah, that can be a problem. That's why I only go to the all-nude gogo bars. No surprises in the morning.
legendary
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diamond-handed zealot
Speaking of Bitcoin, who the hell voted for another leg down in the poll. I didn't approve of this.

Bob? Angry

I want to be bullish. I think one more good flush.

I think a flirt with 3K is baked in at this point
copper member
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Hey here's a suggestion. Instead of reading statistics and asking questions of us on this forum, why don't you start asking questions of yourself? Like, for instance, "how the hell can I become a better person, smarter, healthier, less fearful, more entertaining, more positive and more of the type of person I would be in an ideal world."

Nah, forget all that shit. Just move to Thailand. Beautiful young women go crazy for us fat old dudes.


Only in the morning you will find out she is actually "he" Cheesy

full member
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Speaking of Bitcoin, who the hell voted for another leg down in the poll. I didn't approve of this.

Bob? Angry

I want to be bullish. I think one more good flush.
legendary
Activity: 3598
Merit: 2386
Viva Ut Vivas
Hey here's a suggestion. Instead of reading statistics and asking questions of us on this forum, why don't you start asking questions of yourself? Like, for instance, "how the hell can I become a better person, smarter, healthier, less fearful, more entertaining, more positive and more of the type of person I would be in an ideal world."

Nah, forget all that shit. Just move to Thailand. Beautiful young women go crazy for us fat old dudes.


At the moment I'm in Thailand with my girlfriend*. I'm bringing her back with me to Tahiti this week.

I do recommend to all Americans that women outside of the US are soooo much better.

Brazilian, Eastern European, Vietnamese, Thai....all good stuff.

At one point I went with a new gal each million I was up...with the price going down I'll stick with Thai.


*I know what you're thinking...not a ladyboy (there is more to Thailand than ladyboys)



If anyone here is in Thailand...I'm heading to the Sathoshi Square(?) meetup in BKK this evening.
legendary
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Fair enough. But isn't that depressing at the same time? The more you have, the worse a deal marriage is.

You're depressing.
I didn't design this world. It is what it is.

This world is awesome. It’s you that sucks. That’s the real sad thing.
legendary
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So you cede that these issues exist. Great.
Did my reply imply as much? I don't think they are issues - that's why I was asking. After bitserve, fluidjax too pointed out the meaninglessness of focusing on 51% attacks as segwit-specific attack vectors.

Fungibility isn't a real issue, either - still IMHO. As SW transactions become the majority, only old or newborn coins will be left in your Type 1 (coins that were never touched by a SW transaction). Besides, LN acts as a kind of giant mega-tumbler. If/when LN really gets into widespread use, it will only help fungibility rather than undermine it.

Segwit isn't flawed all of Jbrehere arguments are all flawed  Undecided

Typical Bcasher's echo chamber.
sr. member
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Sideways price action always brings out the worst in us. God I miss Carolina. Cry
legendary
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Fair enough. But isn't that depressing at the same time? The more you have, the worse a deal marriage is.

You're depressing.
I didn't design this world. It is what it is.
legendary
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Shitcoin Minimalist

Fair enough. But isn't that depressing at the same time? The more you have, the worse a deal marriage is.

You're depressing.
sr. member
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I had a nice chat with my ex-wife not long ago. Water under the bridge. She's a lovely person.  Undecided
A lovely person who took how much money from you?

We were total hippies, married at city hall. I had nothing when it started and nothing when it ended. Had some laughs.
Fair enough. But isn't that depressing at the same time? The more you have, the worse a deal marriage is.

Never really thought about it before today. I'd hate to part with half my corns for no good reason, that's for sure. But I was a totally different person back then.
legendary
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I had a nice chat with my ex-wife not long ago. Water under the bridge. She's a lovely person.  Undecided
A lovely person who took how much money from you?

We were total hippies, married at city hall. I had nothing when it started and nothing when it ended. Had some laughs.
Fair enough. But isn't that depressing at the same time? The more you have, the worse a deal marriage is.
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