Topic: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion - page 13648. (Read 26715141 times)

 I like to have at least 3 points touching the lines I draw and if I zoom out on a 3 day trend, I see this:



 Which looks like a 4th of July fireworks in conjunction with a Carolina Country Music Festival followed by the New Moon on July 6th! ^ymmv
 
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^we came for your BTCBTC tulips =)

Aha, you know about our history... . And that subsequent the Hollanders became fameous as pirates, sea robbers and mercenaries and that they still have that in their genes... .  

 Nice.  Hy's is a classic.  When I used to live in TO (Yonge and St. Clair area), I would not have had the money to eat there.  Well, I might have but I would have had to forgo a few necessities... such as rent money   I guess I'll be dating myself but I paid $50 a week for a room with a private bath and shared cooking facilities; needless to say, I ate out frequently.  If I splurged, it would have been at The Old Spaghetti Factory, The Pickle Barrel or Mr. GreenJeans (Eaton's center).  The one time I went to a steakhouse in Toronto, I took a girl (before we went to the Queen/Billy Squier concert), and the maître D' looked at us and said (after looking down at my running shoes) "This is a dining room you know!" to which I replied "Yes, I know."  In hindsight, I wish he had said, "You really can't afford this, my friend", because I had to spend my souvenir t-shirt money on dinner.  It was a good steak but the bill and tip was nearly two weeks rent money - I ate a lot of peanut butter sandwiches over the next couple of weeks.


 It would be difficult for me to get downtown on a whim since I'm in the GTA, I work a weird continental shift and my wife has enrolled my daughter into every extracurricular activity known to man (and possibly some unknown to man) but I could try.  I think it would be cool to meet some of the faces behind the names.

^dogeshit coins are best.. doge base markets are steaming pile =) weeeee


    MAYBE [DOGE:BTC] COULD HELP PUT AN END TO THE GRUESOME ORIENTAL DOGMEAT FESTIVALS !!?  



https://www.onegreenplanet.org/news/join-movement-stop-yulin-dog-meat-festival/

===> JOIN US!!

(quotes snipped and cherry-picked for manipulation) /s

Only type-1 coins have a special status. Turning any coin into type-2 or type-3 is trivial. So does that make blacklisting easier?

I think @bitserve addressed this point better than I could.

So I assume that's it. I wanted to assess the full import of the terrible peril we've chosen to stick our heads into, so I could cry a little doom before getting bogged down in hairy technical discussions. Discussions that will be disrupted by friendly invitations such as the following.


I would have liked to include some quote with "nutjob" or "ratt's ass". Maybe next time. You still get the picture  

lols, he must have run away during the spanish inquisition

The GODL frog: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31N892GN4Yk

A Hollander with a Flemish name, ok we will see them try to do the same trick again... . 

https://forklog.com/zanimatelnaya-geometriya-na-rynke-kriptovalyut-obzor-populyarnyh-patternov-tehanaliza/

WHO would be ready for weeks and weeks of green dildo's ?? ??

I actually tought he was Dutch.

Price seems to have stopped climbing...stabilizing?

Get the fuck out of here with your BIG BLOCKER distraction talking points - now trying to pervert the concept of fungibility.

Just because a coin is being used in a specific way that does not make such coin more or less fungible than if such coin is used in another way.

The concept of fungibility goes to a kind of blacklisting of coins that cause some coins to be less spendible than others, and there is no fucking blacklisting going on through segwit or through lightning network...

So once again.. get the fuck out of here with your nonsensical misleading assertions.




The primary attack vectors on bitcoin have been bcashers and big blocker nutjobs.  Segwit was adopted through consensus mechanisms, and lightning network is voluntarily being worked upon in a quasi-test phase, and surely utilizing the features of segwit in order to be more powerful... There seems to be a lot of consensus behind building upon lightning network that will likely be voluntary for a considerable amount of time, that will likely become bigger and BIGGER as adoption increases and as it continues testing and working out any possible bugs.  Sure some BIG BLOCKER nutjobs are going to continue to exaggerate negative speculation, like you seem to be doing, and to spread disinformation about supposed catastrophes of lightning network in order to pump their stupid-ass and largely non-substantiated negative talking points.

Thanks both, interesting. Now I remember why I waited before using SegWit like addresses.

d_eddie, I would use The Goggle, with refined terms. Something like this could help.

Warning! Don't click on links you cannot verify! Mouse over it, and read what it says. 'refined terms' in this case, means using the    site:  parameter. Add the URL, add the desired items.  

Judicious use of +, -, AND, OR, and quotes can trim millions of hits down to a pertinent few.

The risk you are mentioning here is somewhat "real" but it is decreasing as more funds get moved to segwit addresses. It was a real concern in the beginning as it would have been a (remote) possibility that miners would do as you say. In fact, even if I believed Segwit was a favourable upgrade I was very cautious to NOT move my funds to Segwit addresses until many months later.

Currently, with so much funds already moved into Segwit addresses IF miners decided to stole any Segwit address this is what would happen:

- A fork between the consensus chain and the stolen one.
- A drop in price to almost zero on the stolen one.
- A considerable drop in price on the consensus chain too.

... And basically a major drop in ALL cryptocurrency market as confidence and trust on the main cryptocurrency and its foundations would be severely harmed.

Or maybe it would just be that noone would give any value to the forked (stolen funds) chain and the crisis would not be as deep... but, in any case, whomever carried out that sort of attack (necessarily a main player in crypto mining) would end in a useless (no value) chain and be economically harmed in every way on its core business.

Also take into account that exchanges can be hit by a 51% attack in the sense of double spending BUT they are not vulnerable to this type of attack. Why? Because their wallet software would NOT acknowledge the "anyonecanspend" spoofed tx's no matter how many hashrate decides to support the rogue chain. (If I am wrong in this point please enlighten me).

So, still a 51% "double spending" attack -while hugely improbable in Bitcoin for many reasons- is a (orders of magnitude) bigger "vulnerability" than a segwit "anyonecanspend" attack right now.

I think I found it. Try this site. localcoinatm.com

I was there recently and got $6000 out of one machine an hour after I scanned the QR code. The site doesn't say which machines buy or sell, so you'll have to visit them to find out. Some only allow buys, while the bigger ones can do both.

I actually haven't been buying BTC since last year. I only sell. But you guys know I dabble in alts, so that's where I get most of my BTC from. Been surviving on crypto since about 3 years already.

What a joke of a quote.  The Jews always attempt to form a state within a state of their host nation (5th column) and enslave the native inhabitants through usury.  This is why the Jews have been kicked out of every single country they've ever attempted to infilitrate.  

They're not like Italian, Irish, Asian, or any other type of immigrant.  Their goal is not to integrate, it's an evil cult whose imaginary, made up beliefs claim it's their divine right to rule over and enslave all other humans. Allowing Jews in is the same thing as allowing termites to walk into your house on purpose.  They must always be expelled from wherever they attempt to infest.  For the same reason you do not invite the Charles Manson cult into your house, you do not allow the evil Jewish cult in either.

The scumbag Jew in your quote is pulling the typical Jew lie claiming it's IMPOSSIBLE for Jews ever to be in the wrong and if anyone ever does or says anything against them, the Jew is always the victim and it's never possible the Jews is just receiving blowback for his heinous crimes.  There's no such thing as a Jewish "man".  They do not act like men whatsoever.  They all pull this wretched, extremely female-like 'woe is me, I'm a SJW victim' scam while always being the aggresor against everyone else.

Besides, even if you are a religious nutjob who follows everything from scripture, then if Jesus was legit, that makes Christians the real Jews, and these evil Ashkenazi cult members claiming to be Jews but not the anti-christ. That's why they're referred to as "the synagogue of satan" in religious texts.  It would make sense from a religious point of view since many Satanists and feminists claim Satan is actually a woman representing matriarchy and the Jew displays nothing but the worst of female traits (being weak, pathetic, lying, manipulative) with disdain for anything resembling patriarchy.

I was in Toronto at the beginning of the month. Had a great meal at Hy's downtown. Don't know why I didn't think to look any of y'all up.

As I posted between there and here, Segwit creates three classes of Bitcoins. Each with distinctly different exposure to security vulnerabilities.  
1) Those that are completely free of any Segwit taint all the way back to their constituent coinbase transactions;
2) Those that are not currently output from a Segwit transaction, but have Segwit taint between here and their constituent coinbase transactions; and
3) Those that are the output of a Segwit transaction.


No. But without Segwit, all miners were able to do with a 51% attack is roll back transactions. They were unable to steal funds. If miners choose to revert to considering Segwit transactions as anyonecanspend transactions, then they can claim every one of the outputs of all those anyonecanspend transactions for themselves. As over time, transactions tainted by Segwit is a monotonically increasing count, the incentive to roll back to Satoshi rules is ever-increasing. And the funny thing is that this would arguably not be stealing. After all, Segwit is said to be compatible, right? All the miners would be doing to claim these funds is to revert to the previous rule set. That's compatible.


No. Due to the way the block hash is calculated under Segwit, one can extend a chain atop a block that one does not fully validate. A miner refusing to validate this portion of the block will have a minor benefit in that it can get back to hashing so many milliseconds sooner than one that fully validates. A miner might choose to operate in this manner, believing it unlikely that some other miner might have cheated in this area. If this lax behavior becomes predominant, we could find ourselves with a chain that includes what are invalid blocks by current rules.


Why don't we focus upon these issues first, before moving on?

Note that these are all recognized as attack vectors by pretty much all who have studied the matter. The only real debate is in the probability of these flaws actually ever being invoked.