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legendary
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diamond-handed zealot
we should have lightningkitties
legendary
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@jbreher
Ok, you are skeptic, fine. My question to you would be: are you even using SegWit enabled features in Bitcoin?

Of course not. I am a Segwit skeptic. Why would I commit any of my funds to something I think is fundamentally flawed? That would be irrational, right? (1)

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Have you tried the LN (testnet is fine too) I'm curious to know if you are skeptic on a theoretical level only

No. What does that LN to do with Segwit? I'm not following your train of inquiry here.

Here is a question for you. Are you familiar with the term 'fungibility'? Can you understand how creating two classes of BTC destroys this property? (Well, after claiming one question, you asked two.) (2)
(1) Fine but to me is like "I don't like carrots!" Have you ever tried them? "no, I think they would kill me". Wink
(2) No SegWit, no LN easy.

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Why would I commit any of my funds...
You can use testnet coins........

Fungibility: yes I know what it is and that's a concern for me as well but I know a few ways to protect my privacy. They are costly but I don't care since I value my privacy a lot.

Your line of inquiry really makes little sense. What do you expect I would learn from 'using' LN that I don't know already?

I mean, I'll grant that LN 'works' in the default case. Of course, there is nothing that I find useful that I could do with it. What am I going to do - draw another penis on some stupid crowdsourced image? What a waste of time. AintNobodyGotTimeForThat.png.

Incidentally, your carrot analogy is stupid. Somehow, I expected better from you.
legendary
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Viva Ut Vivas
Is Bitwala still working? After the great debit card purge, I'm not sure it's so easy anymore. Waiting eagerly for new arrangements to regrow a pool of bitcoin card operators.
I left Germany in 2016, I think Bitwala stopped working after I left. After I had my landlord start accepting BTC directly the only thing I used Bitwala for was paying my many speeding tickets.

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I think localbitcoins is banned in Germany.

It was...sorta. After I used it for getting cash to buy a car I started selling BTC on localbitcoins. Then Germany "banned" it. What actually happened was that they blocked people connecting from German IP addresses. And they locked all of the German listings so you could no longer create new ads or edit your old ones.

What this ended up doing was it created a monopoly for me in my area at a high rate of return. While there was competition in the US driving down rates close to a few percent, I had a few ads going from 10% to 15% per trade. I actually only wanted to get a little spending money and spread the word of BTC but having such a monopoly and high rate of return I continued selling, immediately putting the money back into bitcoins after the trade. The Germans knew how to use VPNs.


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Are you referring to Amazon here? What is in your experience/opinion the best way to get gift cards via btc?

For Amazon I use purse.io for the discount (I had an APO address in Germany, but there was also a way to get stuff at 15% discount on amazon.de).

For gift cards there is gyft.com and egifter.com. I prefer egifter because you can get your gift card very close to the dollar amount you are spending.
They have 100s of retailers from most chain restaurants to most chain clothing stores.
sr. member
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Neo-marxists at EA attempt to put women in WW2 shooting game as front line soldiers.  99.9% of playerbase responds that it's a stupid and laughable idea.  EA responds by banning them all from forum for not being SJWs HAHA:

https://www.pcgamer.com/the-battlefield-subreddit-is-such-a-mess-that-mods-have-banned-topics-about-historical-accuracy/

Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion

So relevant.

I assumed you did not want to discuss losing all your money at Bitmexico.

You got the first (and probably the last) merit from me.

blyat
legendary
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Hi I’m new here . Who the fuck is this roach geezer . What a complete asshole. Why does everyone put up with his shit?
Edit:weeeee
our legendary troll.
did you just create new account for asking this here? or are you him?  Cheesy
Yes a new account . No I’m not him . I’m also known as bitcoinpsycho

There's an ignore button next to his/her name that's been clicked more times than google.com and also on anyone that quotes him/her
thanks for that it is actually me messing about waiting for the price to explode and having a pop at roach
legendary
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In order to dump coins one must have coins
Hi I’m new here . Who the fuck is this roach geezer . What a complete asshole. Why does everyone put up with his shit?
Edit:weeeee
our legendary troll.
did you just create new account for asking this here? or are you him?  Cheesy
Yes a new account . No I’m not him . I’m also known as bitcoinpsycho

There's an ignore button next to his/her name that's been clicked more times than google.com and also on anyone that quotes him/her
legendary
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Most peoples' taxes are taken out of their paycheck. With BitWage you can get your paycheck direct deposited to a bitcoin address without your company ever knowing you are getting paid in bitcoin.
This is nice. I will check it out.

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In Europe I was able to pay bills, rent (until I talked my landlord into taking BTC directly), etc. with bitwala. Not sure if there is a similar service in the US but a quick google search gives welto.io, coinbills.com and coinsfer.com.
Is Bitwala still working? After the great debit card purge, I'm not sure it's so easy anymore. Waiting eagerly for new arrangements to regrow a pool of bitcoin card operators.

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Buy a used car with bitcoin or go to the very few auto dealers in the US that accept BTC (again, what...every 5 years? are you holding fiat so you can buy a car?). When I wanted a car in Germany I went to a localbitcoins guy and got the cash to pay for the car.
I think localbitcoins is banned in Germany.

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(Oh nos! I have to buy a gift card! That's not bitcoin! It allows you to have bitcoin as your main currency and not rely on banks or holding fiat that loses value over time, take the 3% discount through gift cards already).
Are you referring to Amazon here? What is in your experience/opinion the best way to get gift cards via btc?
legendary
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I have. Hence my position as a Segwit skeptic.

I don't see exchanges, devs and users complaining how flawed Segwit it, nobody lost money ore saw critical errors.  I only see that bullshit in the Bcash camp.

Can you provide me technical arguments/proof why Segwit is 'flawed' ore show it at the Github?

All those devs are interested in youre arguments.

No. What does that LN to do with Segwit? I'm not following your train of inquiry here.

Trying to convince me that you did your homework while you dont even looked at Segwit features..

(Bcash) shit noob.
legendary
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BTC + Crossfit, living life.
for me momently i save my new capital/incomes/gaines in BTC and play poker for BTC thats allready a start food and other things are for later
legendary
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Viva Ut Vivas
For me I wish people would convert and spend rather than buy, hodl, sell.

The idea of holding means you're resisting the temptation of selling. But if bitcoin is your main currency...why would you ever consider buying some fiat?

Well a lot more people would do that instead of converting back to fiat if you could easily pay your taxes, pay your mortgage, pay bills, buy houses, cars, groceries, etc. with bitcoin.

But currently (esp in the U.S.) you can't. And possibly not ever, at least in most first world countries. And in the U.S., the IRS wants to steal their share of any gains you might have.

Most peoples' taxes are taken out of their paycheck. With BitWage you can get your paycheck direct deposited to a bitcoin address without your company ever knowing you are getting paid in bitcoin.

In Europe I was able to pay bills, rent (until I talked my landlord into taking BTC directly), etc. with bitwala. Not sure if there is a similar service in the US but a quick google search gives welto.io, coinbills.com and coinsfer.com.

Buy houses? Something done how often? Every 5 years maybe?

Buy a used car with bitcoin or go to the very few auto dealers in the US that accept BTC (again, what...every 5 years? are you holding fiat so you can buy a car?). When I wanted a car in Germany I went to a localbitcoins guy and got the cash to pay for the car.

Groceries? Whole Foods, Walmart, Target(do they have groceries?).

Gas? Walmart. Restaurant? Buffalo Wild Wings.

Everything else? Amazon.

I just know the couple of times I visited the US since converting to bitcoin it was sooooo easy.

Or are you waiting to only use bitcoin when the store you go to has a QR code? Or perhaps they need to make it easier?

Trust me, when you only have bitcoin to spend. You'll find ways to pay for just about everything. (Oh nos! I have to buy a gift card! That's not bitcoin! It allows you to have bitcoin as your main currency and not rely on banks or holding fiat that loses value over time, take the 3% discount through gift cards already).
legendary
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Woof! Woof!

Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion

So relevant.

Quoting doesn't help, either. It's just like spreading more dog food in the garden. First come dogs, then roaches.
legendary
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What do you think about Bitcoin not breaking the support 5500€ / 6800$?

I'm not very confident that this will be the bottom, there was not enough panic selling and FUD imo! Tongue Maybe we'll see a break of the support first, then a bull run for new highs can start.

I figure that BTC price and Alts etc are going to Yo/Yo at best between 5k and 6k for the next 9 months

especially if mt. gox keeps kicking out $125 million of BTC dump the 10th of every month until the surplus of 1.40 billion is gone

just the way it is

that and the fact IF there is a run, seems exchanges always go down or are hacked ..thus driving prices down further

buckle up boys and girls it is gonna suck big time

(again, better minds then me prove I'm wrong...please...please...)

brad


No way we fluctuate in a 1k range for 9 months. We're either going to flash crash below 6k soon then begin a slow trek up or begin that slow trek right now until the impetus for the next bull run.
sr. member
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Evil Jewish plagiarist Einstein said "racism is a disease of white people", yet new memoirs reveal Einstein hated Chinese people and also signed on to the Hooton plan to exterminate white Europeans (not to be confused with the Kalergi plan, another Jewish plan to exterminate white Europeans):

http://dailystormer.name/kike-hoaxster-einstein-hated-the-chinks-diaries-reveal/
sr. member
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Neo-marxists at EA attempt to put women in WW2 shooting game as front line soldiers.  99.9% of playerbase responds that it's a stupid and laughable idea.  EA responds by banning them all from forum for not being SJWs HAHA:

https://www.pcgamer.com/the-battlefield-subreddit-is-such-a-mess-that-mods-have-banned-topics-about-historical-accuracy/

Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion

So relevant.

I assumed you did not want to discuss losing all your money at Bitmexico.
legendary
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As long as the price won't be is stable nobody will use it as a main currency go through the hassle and expense of ever buying any to simply use it as a daily currency.

FTFY
legendary
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Meh, I'm not a big fan of the idea of hodling so that you can sell later.

For me I wish people would convert and spend rather than buy, hodl, sell.

The idea of holding means you're resisting the temptation of selling. But if bitcoin is your main currency...why would you ever consider buying some fiat?

Yeah but... Is anyone actually using btc as a main curreny yet?
I mean even without talking about the fact that my salary isn't in btc, that I can't pay my taxes in btc and so on... Who the hell would accept to use a currency where 1mBTC can buy you a 2 breads the monday, 8 the friday and 1 the next week?

As long as the price won't be stable nobody will use it as a main currency.
legendary
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Neo-marxists at EA attempt to put women in WW2 shooting game as front line soldiers.  99.9% of playerbase responds that it's a stupid and laughable idea.  EA responds by banning them all from forum for not being SJWs HAHA:

https://www.pcgamer.com/the-battlefield-subreddit-is-such-a-mess-that-mods-have-banned-topics-about-historical-accuracy/

Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion

So relevant.
legendary
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Merit: 5474
For me I wish people would convert and spend rather than buy, hodl, sell.

The idea of holding means you're resisting the temptation of selling. But if bitcoin is your main currency...why would you ever consider buying some fiat?

Well a lot more people would do that instead of converting back to fiat if you could easily pay your taxes, pay your mortgage, pay bills, buy houses, cars, groceries, etc. with bitcoin.

But currently (esp in the U.S.) you can't. And possibly not ever, at least in most first world countries. And in the U.S., the IRS wants to steal their share of any gains you might have.
sr. member
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#TheGoyimKnow
Neo-marxists at EA attempt to put women in WW2 shooting game as front line soldiers.  99.9% of playerbase responds that it's a stupid and laughable idea.  EA responds by banning them all from forum for not being SJWs HAHA:

https://www.pcgamer.com/the-battlefield-subreddit-is-such-a-mess-that-mods-have-banned-topics-about-historical-accuracy/

legendary
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Viva Ut Vivas
... if bitcoin is your main currency...why would you ever consider buying some fiat?

Probably because Bitcoin is not a main currency.

Yet.

It can be.

At least that's the way I treated it which allowed me to have almost 95% of my money in bitcoins.

I was able to live on bitcoin in Germany where it's damned hard. If you can't live on bitcoin in the US you're not trying.
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