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Topic: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion - page 13764. (Read 26712846 times)

legendary
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BTC + Crossfit, living life.
*belgium 28°

If I'm ever out that way with Rick, I'll have to look you up and say "Hi".

I hear you guys have great chocolate over there.

Have a great weekend !

if your in belgium no problem at all....

and sure we do  Grin it ain't not bad at all down here





legendary
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I dont know why, but i kinda like this quote   Embarrassed
legendary
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It wasn't only the drop. The original rise was also due to "price manipulation" in the first place.

I think when you have a unregulated market where the price is going up rapidly from 6K to 19K, there is bound to be some price manipulation going on there as well from big whales / investors behind the scene. 

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*belgium 28°

If I'm ever out that way with Rick, I'll have to look you up and say "Hi".

I hear you guys have great chocolate over there.

Have a great weekend !

And beer Bob. !
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During bull markets, I always sell on the weekend dump. And during bear barkets, I always buy on the weekend pump. Very simplistic, but works for years already. Cheers guys! I'm drunk again, but we're experiencing a really good weather in this summer for our nordic little country Smiley
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The great thing is, if you believe liberals* who say that natural monopolies form when the free market is left unregulated...that means Bitcoin will eventually become a monopoly and no alt coins will ever again be created.

Come on communist economics! Kick in already!


*for those outside the US, liberal in the US actually means communist

EXCELLENT Comment.. LOL..!!!
legendary
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Viva Ut Vivas
The great thing is, if you believe liberals* who say that natural monopolies form when the free market is left unregulated...that means Bitcoin will eventually become a monopoly and no alt coins will ever again be created.

Come on communist economics! Kick in already!


*for those outside the US, liberal in the US actually means communist
hero member
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It wasn't only the drop. The original rise was also due to "price manipulation" in the first place.

Yep, works both ways.

No. It isn't.

SEC didn't launch price manipulation probe when price dropped from 19K to 6K. SEC launched price manipulation probe just recently when it is obvious sell pressure is rapidly fading away!

Can you please explain why the SEC launching a Bitcoin price manipulation probe now, would invalidate a pre-futures listing price manipulation hypothesis and then a post-listing one?
What I understand from what you are saying is that if the price was manipulated before, then the SEC would have launched a probe at that time and not just now. Is that it? And if so, why would you think that? I mean, do we (commoners) even know what the SEC is doing, why they are doing it and how they decide when to do it?

I think when you have a unregulated market where the price is going up rapidly from 6K to 19K, there is bound to be some price manipulation going on there as well from big whales / investors behind the scene. 

+1
legendary
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Screw it. I'm buying moar.


There might be some guys in this thread willing to sell to you..

Rosewater, kingcolex, and a few more
legendary
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And this is the crux of the problem. BTC needs to find a way to decouple itself from fiat. Unfortunately, there is not enough adoption at this time to accomplish this. One would be really hard pressed to be able to fully purchase all of the goods and services they need directly with BTC.

I got to about 90% of purchases when I lived in Germany (I think gasoline was the final thing).

In the US it would have been so much easier. Bitcoin people in the US have it so easy for spending bitcoins but they don't even know it.

Yeah, but who wants to spend them, unless you happen to be the real and true whitepaper bitcoin or the real satoshi, then you might want to spend those real bitcoins... rather than spending bitcoin bitcoins.   Shocked
legendary
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Self-Custody is a right. Say no to"Non-custodial"
Okey so whats next???


Were gonne drop to €3k???

thinking BTC is just testing the doug polk 10K bet

I haven't seen anything from DPolk, recently, but I would imagine that he must be getting a bit nervous..... Tone Vays did have the better side of the bet in terms of being able to use the bet as leverage.. but it did seem that DPolk did make what seemed to be a reasonably decent bet in which odds seemed to be working pretty good for him.. and not so much now..

I seriously doubt Doug is the least bit nervous.  He is a pro, he knows his odds and is resigned to the outcome the fates deliver.

Also, he isn't exactly going hungry if he loses.

edit/ I see capslock beat me to it

Yeah.. cAPSLOCK beat you to it, and you also failed to acknowledge that I responded to him too, and I said that I was making a point about changes in the market in the last two weeks that makes the odds for going sub $6k to be greater than they were two weeks ago...

seems peep want to read too much into what I am saying and kind of whit knighting Dpolk... Hey, maybe Dpolk might say something himself about what he thinks about the changed odds and his feelings about such changed odds, if he is not a bot, too?
legendary
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It wasn't only the drop. The original rise was also due to "price manipulation" in the first place.

Yep, works both ways.

No. It isn't.

SEC didn't launch price manipulation probe when price dropped from 19K to 6K. SEC launched price manipulation probe just recently when it is obvious sell pressure is rapidly fading away!


I think when you have a unregulated market where the price is going up rapidly from 6K to 19K, there is bound to be some price manipulation going on there as well from big whales / investors behind the scene.  
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legendary
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It wasn't only the drop. The original rise was also due to "price manipulation" in the first place.

Yep, works both ways.

No. It isn't.

SEC didn't launch price manipulation probe when price dropped from 19K to 6K. SEC launched price manipulation probe just recently when it is obvious sell pressure is rapidly fading away!
member
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At the end this is the resume of the first 6 months after the so called big pump.



legendary
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I spy a W bottom on the 4-hour.

Smells like a local bottom. But I wonder if it's a just a bounce in a big bear triangle.
Your global forum posting activity scares the shit out of everybody. You better be not disappointed.

It wasn't only the drop. The original rise was also due to "price manipulation" in the first place.
Yep, works both ways.

Willy everybody? Main difference from Willy and Gox is that no big exchange exploded. Finex was close to blow up but you all know how it went.
legendary
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*belgium 28°

*weekend time/drinks and foods

*small BTC pump to start the day

*and the knowledge that i'm watching champions league   LIVERPOOL/REAL MADRID

-what a day to go crazy on
hero member
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I spy a W bottom on the 4-hour.

Smells like a local bottom. But I wonder if it's a just a bounce in a big bear triangle.
legendary
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Self made HODLER ✓
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It's not only for "security". As soon as you are not running fractional reserve on crypto you are not lowering the price of it. It's ok to me if every (or any, for starters) exchange is forced to proof they hodl the real btc balance. And as I said, it could also be complemented with a bank balance certificate of FIAT funds in the "traditional" way.

See my edit above

Yes, I do also agree that completely auditing the FIAT part is not really possible. Fraud would be always possible, but it is avoiding fractional reserve banking in crypto what it is possible to avoid. I am only interested that they do have the BTC/other crypto they claim to have to avoid the negative influence in price the contrary would have. Of course, they could be hacked next day and the users would lose the (crypto) funds but it would be (publicly) detected inmediately (at next blockchained balance or absence of it) so the point is not to guanratee the funds are "safe"... just that they really hodl it, until they don't.

It is not a cure all solution, but something like the mtgox case would have been avoided/mitigized.

There's not point in trying to avoid fractional reserve banking in something (FIAT) which is already highly fractional reserve banked. It is not as if everyone (including exchanges) could simply withdraw their theoretical bank balances into cash. We don't even know what percentage of it is "real" for each FIAT currency.

But it would/should be possible in crypto. Unless.... what if the exchanges are already running some kind of fractional reserve? We will never know until they implement the simple proof of crypto reserves system.
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