JJG: many countries have consumer protection legislation. It doesn’t need to be securities fraud for someone to go to jail. Ordinary, everyday fraud works too.
And it doesn’t matter if Roger is in Japan if his marketing efforts are directed at locals.
Topic: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion - page 13823. (Read 26519787 times)
April 27, 2018, 12:16:30 AM
April 27, 2018, 12:15:15 AM
Lawsuit is being organized versus Bitcoin.com for misleading novice Bitcoin users 
https://walletinvestor.com/magazine/lawsuit-is-being-organized-versus-bitcoin-com-for-misleading-novice-bitcoin-users/
https://walletinvestor.com/magazine/lawsuit-is-being-organized-versus-bitcoin-com-for-misleading-novice-bitcoin-users/
Even though the idea seems appealing, I don't think that there are very many viable lawsuits that could be filed, unless you could get bcash classified as a security with the SEC, then perhaps some of those SEC related obligations could apply.
Otherwise, what would be the grounds of such lawsuit against bitcoin.com.. portraying itself as coke when it is really pepsi? I might get more excited once I see some legal document that is filed, and see what is being alleged. or otherwise, if someone knows about a decently solid set of allegations that might have some teeth for either damages or injunctive relief, I would be interested to hear those... otherwise such lawsuit, if it were filed, would likely go no where, right?
How many people have actually been fooled? Out of those, how many of them lost money? If there were any people dumb enough to have been fooled into bcash, and lost money on it, they're probably not even going to hear about this lawsuit.
Even if the lawyers manage to sign up people who were stupid enough to buy bcash, and realize losses, it's not over yet. Roger's [highly paid] attorneys would stand a very good chance of being able to convince some ignorant judge that Bitcoin Judas is entitled to use the Bitcoin name for his fork.
TLDR: The lawsuit is going nowhere.
Part of my earlier point was that people being fooled is not enough for a valid cause of action..... even for basic common law fraud type allegations - there is a principle of buyer beware in common law... (aka caveat emptor). Further bitcoin is not trademarked nor copyrighted nor patented, so using the name and saying that you are the real bitcoin is likely not enough, either... There would have to be a showing of intentional and malicious knowing deception - and that might not even be enough without using securities law - and Bcash would have to be deemed a security (which does not create a private cause of action, anyhow, as far as I know (meaning that the SEC is the only agency empowered to bring such a claim)).
Roger lives in Japan, they need to follow Japanese laws with a good lawyer, the more you pay the better they get. Making a statement and getting more media exposure to people about Bcash scam.
April 27, 2018, 12:13:12 AM
I'd like to think that whoever is trying to reset my password knows how well-respected and admired I am 'round these parts.
Where ya been? nothing's changed here. maybe a bit more off the rails. 
April 26, 2018, 11:46:10 PM
I'd like to think that whoever is trying to reset my password knows how well-respected and admired I am 'round these parts.
Yeah, right...
Look what the cat drug in.... the supposedly insightful and clairvoyant BJA.... a little damaged, but still alive, perhaps?
Let me guess, you are going to tell us that bitcoin is broken, it needs to scale, and we need to sell our BTC.. because you are smarter than the rest of us, and you know something that we don't? just like the last few times?
April 26, 2018, 11:24:10 PM
On the 1h we look to be entering a consolidation zone. I had thought this rise would coincide with the weekend but Bulls appear to be ready to test resistance at $9.3k.
As we step back and look at the 4h chart, testing $10k this weekend looks like a possibility. #dyor
@infofront Thanks man..the sarcasm aside, I am quite honored actually.
As we step back and look at the 4h chart, testing $10k this weekend looks like a possibility. #dyor
@infofront Thanks man..the sarcasm aside, I am quite honored actually.
About that second chart, don't you think that there could be one or two bigger rebounds before hitting the 10,5-11? I've seen a lot of people in TradeView saying that some big players could benefit from a dump to 8k to recharge their wallets and pump straight up to 14k.
I mean, today's correction was expected by most members I've managed to read through here in the forum (not the prices exactly, but several dudes were feeling uneasy about the ultra bullish uptrend that followed after the 8k break), wouldn't a similar feeling hit the market if we did manage to break 10k in a rush?
April 26, 2018, 11:21:41 PM
I'd like to think that whoever is trying to reset my password knows how well-respected and admired I am 'round these parts.
April 26, 2018, 11:17:25 PM
Lawsuit is being organized versus Bitcoin.com for misleading novice Bitcoin users
https://walletinvestor.com/magazine/lawsuit-is-being-organized-versus-bitcoin-com-for-misleading-novice-bitcoin-users/
https://walletinvestor.com/magazine/lawsuit-is-being-organized-versus-bitcoin-com-for-misleading-novice-bitcoin-users/
Even though the idea seems appealing, I don't think that there are very many viable lawsuits that could be filed, unless you could get bcash classified as a security with the SEC, then perhaps some of those SEC related obligations could apply.
Otherwise, what would be the grounds of such lawsuit against bitcoin.com.. portraying itself as coke when it is really pepsi? I might get more excited once I see some legal document that is filed, and see what is being alleged. or otherwise, if someone knows about a decently solid set of allegations that might have some teeth for either damages or injunctive relief, I would be interested to hear those... otherwise such lawsuit, if it were filed, would likely go no where, right?
How many people have actually been fooled? Out of those, how many of them lost money? If there were any people dumb enough to have been fooled into bcash, and lost money on it, they're probably not even going to hear about this lawsuit.
Even if the lawyers manage to sign up people who were stupid enough to buy bcash, and realize losses, it's not over yet. Roger's [highly paid] attorneys would stand a very good chance of being able to convince some ignorant judge that Bitcoin Judas is entitled to use the Bitcoin name for his fork.
TLDR: The lawsuit is going nowhere.
Part of my earlier point was that people being fooled is not enough for a valid cause of action..... even for basic common law fraud type allegations - there is a principle of buyer beware in common law... (aka caveat emptor). Further bitcoin is not trademarked nor copyrighted nor patented, so using the name and saying that you are the real bitcoin is likely not enough, either... There would have to be a showing of intentional and malicious knowing deception - and that might not even be enough without using securities law - and Bcash would have to be deemed a security (which does not create a private cause of action, anyhow, as far as I know (meaning that the SEC is the only agency empowered to bring such a claim)).
April 26, 2018, 11:15:14 PM
This 400 BTC Sell Wall shaped throughout the last few hours is as insane as it is pretty, indeed
April 26, 2018, 11:00:34 PM
man...I remember when Eric used to post up in this thread
he had that fabulous red mask
he had that fabulous red mask
April 26, 2018, 10:27:39 PM
April 26, 2018, 10:22:26 PM
So glad to see Erik Voorhees finally coming around :
https://twitter.com/ErikVoorhees/status/989657463858253824
https://twitter.com/ErikVoorhees/status/989657463858253824
He seems like a guy who always tries to be on the winning side. He just made an erroneous prediction when siding against Bitcoin.
April 26, 2018, 10:00:15 PM
So glad to see Erik Voorhees finally coming around :
https://twitter.com/ErikVoorhees/status/989657463858253824
https://twitter.com/ErikVoorhees/status/989657463858253824
April 26, 2018, 09:21:05 PM
On the 1h we look to be entering a consolidation zone. I had thought this rise would coincide with the weekend but Bulls appear to be ready to test resistance at $9.3k.
As we step back and look at the 4h chart, testing $10k this weekend looks like a possibility. #dyor
@infofront Thanks man..the sarcasm aside, I am quite honored actually.
As we step back and look at the 4h chart, testing $10k this weekend looks like a possibility. #dyor
@infofront Thanks man..the sarcasm aside, I am quite honored actually.
April 26, 2018, 09:03:34 PM
April 26, 2018, 09:01:37 PM
holy fuck
it went from furnace to AC weather here in like 2 days...
imma have to stop mining soon
it went from furnace to AC weather here in like 2 days...
imma have to stop mining soon
April 26, 2018, 09:01:15 PM
the rocket
is lunched
is lunched
... someone munching on your rocket at noon?
April 26, 2018, 08:50:52 PM
^That's a weird looking birth mark.
April 26, 2018, 08:40:41 PM
April 26, 2018, 08:34:04 PM
This one took a lot of patience but I'm pretty happy with the result. It's a reflection on the current mood (and I missed the first over 9000 celebration due to work)
So true, that reflects it perfectly lol
On another note... I have always wondered if there are a lot of professional graphic designers on this thread or if it is just a (very devoted) hobby for some.
I have about 60 years of computer graphical design experience.
That's why I can draw graphs like this:
___/
I got this far:
~~~
When I get as young as you I hope to do better though. (may require a way back machine)
April 26, 2018, 08:22:26 PM
Don't wait too long to buy...
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/videos/2018-04-26/pantera-s-morehead-says-bitcoin-is-a-screaming-buy-video
Few interesting points:
1. Panthera is most definitely the oldest bitcoin and crypto focused hedge fund.
2. They are currently 90% long, 10% short in crypto space (now have more positions than just bitcoin).
3. Says that btc is undervalued 10-100X until fair value.
4. Projects up to $40 trillion in crypto in about 10 years, compares to $9 tril in gold and $100 tril in global M2.
(see starting at about 5:40 or so)
Nice.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/videos/2018-04-26/pantera-s-morehead-says-bitcoin-is-a-screaming-buy-video
Few interesting points:
1. Panthera is most definitely the oldest bitcoin and crypto focused hedge fund.
2. They are currently 90% long, 10% short in crypto space (now have more positions than just bitcoin).
3. Says that btc is undervalued 10-100X until fair value.
4. Projects up to $40 trillion in crypto in about 10 years, compares to $9 tril in gold and $100 tril in global M2.
(see starting at about 5:40 or so)
Nice.
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