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Quote from: LastJedi on May 11, 2018, 02:00:43 PM

McAfee is reversing his stance on bitcoin all the sudden.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBgFGwJA1D0
Why does he have a gun to his head in the video preview. Shocked

Is he shitting himself this much he will lose his bet for bitcoin to reach $$ by end of the year now?

-He still thinks bitcoin will reach $1 million by end of 2020.
-He no more remembers his prediction of $78000 for bitcoin by end of this year.
-He is still very much optimistic about crypto-currencies and constantly repeated that it can't be stopped.
-Overall, McAfee hasn't reversed his stance on bitcoin.
-He likes guns (and making styles with it).

If he is all in on bitcoin and not reversing stance and his previous predictions on it then why did he sell his mining farm?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNDReQkrxyQ

Quote from: gentlemand on May 11, 2018, 02:51:34 PM

Quote from: sirazimuth on May 11, 2018, 02:36:06 PM

skip to the 48:00min mark for bitcoin talk (or waste 48 minutes ,whatever floats you boat)

"No i didnt make a 2018 projection of 78k" (looks away rubs his face)
then it cuts to a clip of him making that very projection on that mis-infowars-claptrap show.
what a frakking joke that nutcase gun toting clown is...

The never ending gunplay on display is fucking pitiful.

The number one threat to his personal safety is having his brains blown out by one of the psychos he's employed and keeps tanked up on drugs and booze.

I presume the Fedex guy fires packages at his house with an artillery piece from the safety of a few miles away, otherwise attempting to drop off that Hello Kitty backpack John ordered on Amazon might earn an arse full of hollow points.

It is funny how these rich former CEO types change their minds on the way the wind blows.
Wasn't Bill Gates saying when bitcoin was at an all time high back in February that bitcoin payments were the future and now he is siding with Buffett in saying bitcoin is a fraud Huh

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Quote from: sirazimuth on May 11, 2018, 02:36:06 PM

skip to the 48:00min mark for bitcoin talk (or waste 48 minutes ,whatever floats you boat)

"No i didnt make a 2018 projection of 78k" (looks away rubs his face)
then it cuts to a clip of him making that very projection on that mis-infowars-claptrap show.
what a frakking joke that nutcase gun toting clown is...

The never ending gunplay on display is fucking pitiful.

The number one threat to his personal safety is having his brains blown out by one of the psychos he's employed and keeps tanked up on drugs and booze.

I presume the Fedex guy fires packages at his house with an artillery piece from the safety of a few miles away, otherwise attempting to drop off that Hello Kitty backpack John ordered on Amazon might earn an arse full of hollow points.

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Quote from: Agapios on May 11, 2018, 11:44:19 AM

Quote from: Agapios on May 10, 2018, 03:39:00 PM

Help me with your thoughts on bitcoin futures.
If 1 contract 100 bitcoins? 900k USD? and there was i think today 3000 buy/sell (or with other words 3000 combined going long + going short)
So 3000 times 900k usd = 2,7 billion USD in one day
Am i gettting this right ? i think not

I didnt get any repond so kindly if someone can answer me this please

I would also add I am assuming (perhaps I am wrong?) bitcoin futures are direclty tied to bitcoin. So I am under assumtion if someone opens large volume of shorts for bitcoin futures, they go down, or if someone opens large volume of longs they go up ?

http://www.cmegroup.com/trading/equity-index/us-index/bitcoin_contract_specifications.html
No it's 5 btc per contract, so vol. is still tiny overall. Yes iirc CME is settled in btc, while CBOE is in usd http://cfe.cboe.com/cfe-products/xbt-cboe-bitcoin-futures
Here's their, generally bigger, volume http://cfe.cboe.com/cfe-products/xbt-cboe-bitcoin-futures with 1btc per contract
compare https://www.barchart.com/futures/bitcoin
Your final question - no, there is always a bigger fish who will counter-trade their competitors.

edit: Some traders are noticing a small CME factor, where spot price draws towards week's close price on CME, but most are unconvinced, again because of tiny volume.

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Every little bad news and the whole market collapses.

an investigation in upbit (Korea) makes this to the market.

His doesn't make sense at all
This market needs to mature a lot more.

https://www.coindesk.com/koreas-biggest-crypto-exchange-raided-over-suspected-fraud-report/

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Quote from: Rosewater Foundation on May 11, 2018, 07:43:11 AM

I love how the bullish goon squad just vanishes at times like this. Really makes you think.

Yeah. It's gorgeous weather here in Texas. Took my C4S out with the top down for come beer and covfefe. Gonna play me some Fortnite then maybe jump in the pool.

So Bitcorn is having a bad time right now. Oh well.

No sense "moping" around in this thread.

Ya know ?

I love the look on wifes face when she comes home from work and sees me in my pjs playing Fortnite. Best part of crypto retirement.

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Quote from: LastJedi on May 11, 2018, 02:00:43 PM

McAfee is reversing his stance on bitcoin all the sudden.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBgFGwJA1D0

Why does he have a gun to his head in the video preview. Shocked

Is he shitting himself this much he will lose his bet for bitcoin to reach $$ by end of the year now?

skip to the 48:00min mark for bitcoin talk (or waste 48 minutes ,whatever floats you boat)

"No i didnt make a 2018 projection of 78k" (looks away rubs his face)
then it cuts to a clip of him making that very projection on that mis-infowars-claptrap show.
what a frakking joke that nutcase gun toting clown is...

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McAfee is reversing his stance on bitcoin all the sudden.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBgFGwJA1D0

Why does he have a gun to his head in the video preview. Shocked

Is he shitting himself this much he will lose his bet for bitcoin to reach $$ by end of the year now?

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Quote from: infofront on May 11, 2018, 12:10:58 PM

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Bitcoin private is better

It felt good to dump another shitfork.

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Quote from: infofront on May 11, 2018, 12:16:28 PM

Quote from: Elwar on May 11, 2018, 11:47:31 AM

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Quote from: B1tUnl0ck3r on May 10, 2018, 04:41:12 PM

the elon muskit virus is spreading !!!

Quote from: cryptomined on May 08, 2018, 11:12:45 PM

Hey everyone, I recently did this video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPdnG03eI58) showing some of the recent Deception and Misdirection that the ZCash team has pushed on us all over the last 1.5 years and ofcoarse more recently over the last week with the announcement of the Z9.

....

another shit coin exposed, Zcash aka ZEC... and this one has still a billion dollar market valuation... what a shame, and when the centralized owner encountered some arguements, what did he do? he did a elon musk, and censored the great user whose post you can read in the quote. I hope the market will not support such trash... where to short it? there is an easy divided by 100 here... from 1 billion to 10 millions (which is way too much already for such a scam)... OPM really don't care...

and don't forget to hodl you profit in btc

.

who took some off the tables? $936m... can go below the million now ...

and who will be left holding the bag? I hope it is zooko

...

I like how ZenCash just said..."ok, we're going to take your crypto that you created and pre-mined...and we're going to create the exact same coin but without the pre-mined coins".

This should be done far more often with pre-mined coins.

I don't want to shill, but Zen is one of a small handful of alts I like. They've taken the ball from ZCash and they seem to be taking it into a really interesting direction.

if you trust the trusted step up... good luck. those are democrats chain

. really. it comes to that, but your btc, spread them where you want.

Quote from: Agapios on May 11, 2018, 11:44:19 AM

Quote from: Agapios on May 10, 2018, 03:39:00 PM

Help me with your thoughts on bitcoin futures.

In February I started to think if they are bad for bitcoin (because bitcoin remain bearish since introduction of futures).
Now i think they are bad, but probably not on extremely long turn. On extremely long term they are probably good (in years 2019, 2020)

But on short term (this year) i think bitcoin futures are bad. Why bad?
Because all the sudden people with a lot more money then those in crpyto can draw and earn money with hedging and drawing money from "little people with less experience". They wont take money from true hodlers who just hold, but bitcoin need new people in order to go up and up and crazy up, and experienced hedging companies could for quite some time draw price down and they have more knowledge whats and how much is needed to cause spikes down with help of futures.

Can someone help me dig out how much money is now in futures?
http://www.cmegroup.com/trading/equity-index/us-index/bitcoin_quotes_globex.html
For may its i think 3000 contacts? now i wonder how much money is in that

If 1 contract 100 bitcoins? 900k USD? and there was i think today 3000 buy/sell (or with other words 3000 combined going long + going short)
So 3000 times 900k usd = 2,7 billion USD in one day

Am i gettting this right ? i think not

I didnt get any repond so kindly if someone can answer me this please

I would also add I am assuming (perhaps I am wrong?) bitcoin futures are direclty tied to bitcoin. So I am under assumtion if someone opens large volume of shorts for bitcoin futures, they go down, or if someone opens large volume of longs they go up ?

only at termination date

, at least it would be a great idea, but who knows, the market has a life of its own

.

a donnation to the address in pivx would be appreciated for this kind thoughtful answer

.

will see, if you are leech or not

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Quote from: Elwar on May 11, 2018, 11:47:31 AM

Quote from: B1tUnl0ck3r on May 11, 2018, 11:20:48 AM

Quote from: B1tUnl0ck3r on May 10, 2018, 04:41:12 PM

the elon muskit virus is spreading !!!

Quote from: cryptomined on May 08, 2018, 11:12:45 PM

Hey everyone, I recently did this video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPdnG03eI58) showing some of the recent Deception and Misdirection that the ZCash team has pushed on us all over the last 1.5 years and ofcoarse more recently over the last week with the announcement of the Z9.

....

another shit coin exposed, Zcash aka ZEC... and this one has still a billion dollar market valuation... what a shame, and when the centralized owner encountered some arguements, what did he do? he did a elon musk, and censored the great user whose post you can read in the quote. I hope the market will not support such trash... where to short it? there is an easy divided by 100 here... from 1 billion to 10 millions (which is way too much already for such a scam)... OPM really don't care...

and don't forget to hodl you profit in btc

.

who took some off the tables? $936m... can go below the million now ...

and who will be left holding the bag? I hope it is zooko

...

I like how ZenCash just said..."ok, we're going to take your crypto that you created and pre-mined...and we're going to create the exact same coin but without the pre-mined coins".

This should be done far more often with pre-mined coins.

I don't want to shill, but Zen is one of a small handful of alts I like. They've taken the ball from ZCash and they seem to be taking it into a really interesting direction.

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Bitcoin private is better

It felt good to dump another shitfork.

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Quote from: Paashaas on May 11, 2018, 09:28:21 AM

I saw this on Twitter that 2 Chinese guys willing to punch scammer Roger Ver in his face during the CoinGeek conference Shocked

Imo, i would love to see Roger getting smacked he deserves one right now.

http://onepunchforver.com/

I wouldn't pay up front. If they actually follow through with it, I'll consider a donation.

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Quote from: B1tUnl0ck3r on May 11, 2018, 11:20:48 AM

Quote from: B1tUnl0ck3r on May 10, 2018, 04:41:12 PM

the elon muskit virus is spreading !!!

Quote from: cryptomined on May 08, 2018, 11:12:45 PM

Hey everyone, I recently did this video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPdnG03eI58) showing some of the recent Deception and Misdirection that the ZCash team has pushed on us all over the last 1.5 years and ofcoarse more recently over the last week with the announcement of the Z9.

....

another shit coin exposed, Zcash aka ZEC... and this one has still a billion dollar market valuation... what a shame, and when the centralized owner encountered some arguements, what did he do? he did a elon musk, and censored the great user whose post you can read in the quote. I hope the market will not support such trash... where to short it? there is an easy divided by 100 here... from 1 billion to 10 millions (which is way too much already for such a scam)... OPM really don't care...

and don't forget to hodl you profit in btc

.

who took some off the tables? $936m... can go below the million now ...

and who will be left holding the bag? I hope it is zooko

...

I like how ZenCash just said..."ok, we're going to take your crypto that you created and pre-mined...and we're going to create the exact same coin but without the pre-mined coins".

This should be done far more often with pre-mined coins.

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There..bear hat firmly in place.

The police raiding Upbit in South Korea and the MtGox trustee's movement of coin along with a over bought market has caused a cascade event imho. There could be a moderate retrace as traders look to exit long positions during the next week or so followed by a retest of support at $7.8k.

Technical analysis indicates another month or so of downward accumulation.

Pantera Capital's May letter has some interesting points. #dyor

https://medium.com/@PanteraCapital/the-immutable-blockchain-rally-pantera-blockchain-letter-may-2018-873ba54fc4a

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Quote from: ssmc2 on May 11, 2018, 11:35:38 AM

Getting real tired of seeing this kinda shit.

How about we find stability at $10k first, for the love of FSM.

we need to reach it first... i don't see 5 digits for some months already

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Quote from: Agapios on May 10, 2018, 03:39:00 PM

Help me with your thoughts on bitcoin futures.

In February I started to think if they are bad for bitcoin (because bitcoin remain bearish since introduction of futures).
Now i think they are bad, but probably not on extremely long turn. On extremely long term they are probably good (in years 2019, 2020)

But on short term (this year) i think bitcoin futures are bad. Why bad?
Because all the sudden people with a lot more money then those in crpyto can draw and earn money with hedging and drawing money from "little people with less experience". They wont take money from true hodlers who just hold, but bitcoin need new people in order to go up and up and crazy up, and experienced hedging companies could for quite some time draw price down and they have more knowledge whats and how much is needed to cause spikes down with help of futures.

Can someone help me dig out how much money is now in futures?
http://www.cmegroup.com/trading/equity-index/us-index/bitcoin_quotes_globex.html
For may its i think 3000 contacts? now i wonder how much money is in that

If 1 contract 100 bitcoins? 900k USD? and there was i think today 3000 buy/sell (or with other words 3000 combined going long + going short)
So 3000 times 900k usd = 2,7 billion USD in one day

Am i gettting this right ? i think not

I didnt get any repond so kindly if someone can answer me this please

I would also add I am assuming (perhaps I am wrong?) bitcoin futures are direclty tied to bitcoin. So I am under assumtion if someone opens large volume of shorts for bitcoin futures, they go down, or if someone opens large volume of longs they go up ?

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Quote from: ssmc2 on May 11, 2018, 11:35:38 AM

Getting real tired of seeing this kinda shit.

How about we find stability at $10k first, for the love of FSM.

Flying Spaghetti Monster?

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Quote from: ssmc2 on May 11, 2018, 11:35:38 AM

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/05/10/bitcoin-could-soar-as-high-as-64000-next-year-fundstrat-predicts.html

As of May 6, Fundstrat estimates the cash break-even price for the older Antminer S7 model is $6,003 per bitcoin, and $2,368 for the newer Antminer S9. Both are made by Beijing-based Bitmain, which Bernstein analysts estimate had $3 billion to $4 billion in operating profits last year.

"The release of the next generation of rig hardware should trigger a new round of capex as well as hash power growth, which could accelerate if BTC price appreciates," Doctor said.

yeah yeah, they can prop up a little zec until they launch their z9... and then once they start to flood it... it's gone

, there is way to fix them there and let them hold this bag... would be nice

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