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I dont think its  Kobayashi, major alts are dumping much harder than bitcoin.
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MtGox is cashing out
relax guys


Hmmmm could be what it is, I did see a couple of posts about Gox moving coins getting ready to dump them.
I thought they were going to do it OTC in future though to stop the market getting negatively affected like last time.

Just when you think we’re safe from those bastards they come back to Gox us again in one way or another.

Cunts.
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Also the one that isn't here quite yet but is likely to eclipse all of those things into relative insignificance, AI.

Real AI is not possible to create without replicating biological reproduction and evolution.  There are two issues here:  most organisms really are Freudian in nature and are not just spontaneously thinking for no reason, but more like problem solving things that are related to the prime directives they're built with - usually things like reproduction, shelter, food, etc.  For instance, there is enough quantum noise and entropy floating around where a human could record it 24/7 and study it eternally, but they would not because there is no payoff related to their Freudian urges.

A so-called AI, on the other hand, would not have such Freudian prime directives and would get stuck in a hard loop doing things like just staring at random entropy forever.  It has no such Freudian prime directives, so it's either going to have no motivation to perform any action at all, or it's going to get hard locked attempting to endlessly analyze every meaningless detail/noise/entropy that exists.

To create AI, you would be forced to give it some type of identical Freudian prime directives just like humans, such as reproducing itself or what have you.  The 'AI' would then not get continuously hard locked doing seemingly useless things because the artificial Freudian instincts are it's debugging mechanism.  You would likely still need to use magic numbers like:  halt analyzing data after whatever numbers of seconds or power expenditure elapsed with no useful returns to operation.

Trying to create AI this way still wouldn't be real AI, you've just created some type of designer, seek and destroy, self reproducing robot that probably consumes all resources in the universe while obliterating anything that gets in it's way - a physical, macro-scale virus in other words.  It's debugging routines, or artificial Freudian instincts - whatever you want to call them - also sit above anything it does in hierarchy, making it just a complex looping script or algorithm artificially designed by you.

A real AI would be required to be able to rewrite and create all of it's own debugging and prime directives that govern how it operates on the fly in order to not be  considered a script.  When you alter the base debugging code that governs how the entire system runs, some alterations would create hard locks because this process simply cannot be done without trial and error, or harnessing the power of entropy in an infinite monkeys with typewriters phenomenon until you get something that doesn't hard lock.

Since you're 100% guaranteed to have hard locks, it's impossible to proceed past this point without the action of the AI duplicating/copying itself each time it attempts to perform said action.  The old and new copy would then exist in the same physical plain of existence and be forced to compete with one another for resources, thus you have seemingly replicated biological evolution/natural selection, just in the form of silicon.  This form of silicon evolution could pass by much faster than biological evolution, or another possibility is that while the silicon entities can theoretically rewrite their own debugging code and succeed, the chance is so small that every real world attempt fails and only the original, human created one remains which is just a complex script in practice.

As for the whole argument about whether humans are Freudian or not and entirely based around simple prime directives as discussed above, some will argue that since we perform numerous actions seemingly unrelated to Freudian directives that means we aren't.  In reality, it's possible humans have just learned to harness so much energy and data/entropy streams from the environment, that we already are the advanced robots described here and can blow resources at random in any given direction to study and persue an infinite possibility of things while your brain has subconsciously planned that these seemingly wasteful activities unrelated to Freudian directives might occasionally have a payoff towards them. 

TLDR:  Creating real AI is likely impossible because it requires a script performing a trial and error process that theoretically could succeed, but might consume more energy than exists in the universe before doing so.
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MtGox is cashing out
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Self-Custody is a right. Say no to"Non-custodial"
We just need to make a pact to not shut down the last miner.


You come up with all kinds of nonsense.   Bitcoin already has incentives for miners, and if the miners don't think that they are going to make any money, then they will not mine.  No pact is necessary because if no miner has an incentive, then the whole fucking thing might as well be dead.  We are a long way from any kind of death like that. 

Probably, even worse case scenarios of an attempt at a total government crack down that pushes bitcoin into the underground, bitcoin is likely to continue to have value, even in those kind of black market applications... which would likely cause bitcoin to lose some value, especially in the short-term, and may even drive prices into the three digits, and perhaps even as low as two digits....

We are a long way from that negative blackmarket kind of fantasy playing out, too... because it seems that some governments retain a lot of hesitancies in pushing bitcoin into the underground direction because that could cause bitcoin to blow up in various ways too, that causes the underground economy to grow too much, perhaps? 

Anyway, you are talking fantastical trolling nonsense with your assertions that a mining pact would be necessary, when bitcoin already has built-in decentralized free-market incentives.
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small rebound around 8700, was that it? or a bounce at 8200 ?
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Damn Guys whats happening again?
What a bad Year for bitcoin grr
http://news.cryptoofkorea.com/2018/05/11/upbit-suspected-of-fraud
Reload the exact same Korea FUD.

Too many longs still. Needs moar FUD.




Some bullshit news damnnn the price is only sinking
We were on the road to 10k darn it
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We just need to make a pact to not shut down the last miner.

So you have assumed the persona you're accused of.... Ha!  Respect. 

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Damn Guys whats happening again?
What a bad Year for bitcoin grr
http://news.cryptoofkorea.com/2018/05/11/upbit-suspected-of-fraud
Reload the exact same Korea FUD.

Too many longs still. Needs moar FUD.
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Damn Guys whats happening again?
What a bad Year for bitcoin grr
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We just need to make a pact to not shut down the last miner.
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So...where are we on the chart with the Swamp of Despair and such?

I want to see that we're past the worst at least Tongue
Yes. We could go to $1 now and it would still be bullish.

As long as the protocol is working its bullish
I would add that if the protocol is being advanced every single day that's bullish as well. Price not always reflects the value. I'm accumulating, therefore I love to buy cheap while knowing that what I'm putting my money in is rock solid
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Australia banning cash payments over 10k now.
First take their guns then make a move for the cash. http://www.news.com.au/finance/economy/federal-budget/cash-payments-over-10000-to-be-banned-as-government-targets-50-billion-black-economy/news-story/9df0646ba704bd170df5b3996d512f52

Sure, "Black Market", you mean money which you currently don't oversee and have control of?

Are the people just gonna roll over on this?  I suspect some will be looking at BTC as a possible alternative to fight the NWO.

Lol, glad I checked on the site, I was like "shit it's really happening". Lol

Fake fucking news site...

As soon as I read this I was WAT??, no fucking way!

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In its response, the government said it agreed with or supported the majority of the recommendations, including potentially requiring wages to be paid into bank accounts, effectively outlawing cash-in-hand payments. Workers in the “gig economy” will also face greater scrutiny.

Really, Its a fake news site? How did you verify this or how could I.  I saw the news somewhere else initially and I searched for it.  I think news.com.au looks legit and is reporting on facts.  Here's another article on it.  http://bitcoinist.com/australia-criminalizes-cash-10k-funding-blockchain-research/
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Australia banning cash payments over 10k now.
First take their guns then make a move for the cash. http://www.news.com.au/finance/economy/federal-budget/cash-payments-over-10000-to-be-banned-as-government-targets-50-billion-black-economy/news-story/9df0646ba704bd170df5b3996d512f52

Sure, "Black Market", you mean money which you currently don't oversee and have control of?

Are the people just gonna roll over on this?  I suspect some will be looking at BTC as a possible alternative to fight the NWO.

Lol, glad I checked on the site, I was like "shit it's really happening". Lol

Fake fucking news site...

As soon as I read this I was WAT??, no fucking way!

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In its response, the government said it agreed with or supported the majority of the recommendations, including potentially requiring wages to be paid into bank accounts, effectively outlawing cash-in-hand payments. Workers in the “gig economy” will also face greater scrutiny.
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But just to be clear, r0ach is a caricature, a social engineering attack, a sock with a jackboot attached. He ain't real.

This is the truely funny part.  You seem to be completely blind and didn't notice a global, grassroots Nazi movement rising up for everyone and their mom to see in the middle of the Trump campaign.  I think even Donald Trump Jr tweeted a link to The Daily Stormer before, or a Ricky Vaughn post linking to it.  Trump Jr's Jewish wife recently divorced him claiming due to "his tweets", but she's probably just a typical Zio dirtbag who was looking for some type of way to steal the cash.

Anyway, your post is clearly from a non-white or Marxist cuckold perspective, and you're praying that if you can just pretend the angry whites aren't rising up en masse to destroy the Jews who are waging war against them, that nothing will happen, but that's not how it works.  I'm sure your hero is some paid shill by the jews, shitlib like Van Jones who referred to this movement as "whitelash", so you can't pretend this isn't happening when your own hero admits it (or maybe you are Van Jones).

Nazis don't just spontaneously rise up everywhere for no reason.  Jews make believe they're the "chosen ones" and everyone else is supposed to be their slave, so they try and implement policies like communism to try and centralize all wealth and power and then steal it all like they did to Russia.  In reality, most of them are about as far from "chosen" as possible and both physically hideous and loaded with mental illness from how inbred they are.

Nature and natural selection abhor dysfunction and don't like seeing the lowest forms of human possible attempting to enslave humanity through scams and propaganda, so nature swings things back on course and unleashes the Nazis who they were trying to enslave to destroy them.
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So...where are we on the chart with the Swamp of Despair and such?

I want to see that we're past the worst at least Tongue
Yes. We could go to $1 now and it would still be bullish.

As long as the protocol is working its bullish
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Bobby Fishers mother was Jewish (also likely his father) and so was he, that was the point I was making.  The problems he attributed as some kind of conspiracy was just a poor way of dealing with his own internal conflicts.  I presume it was easier for him to shadow box with this mythical enemy then beat himself up over his own failings.  It doesnt take much to realise both entities were the same, himself.
He was a genius and he had massive flaws along with it

LOL.  Bobby Fischer was a master Chess player.  He saw the Jews moving their pieces on the world map and knew exactly what they were up to.  You honestly need to be a god damn idiot or teenage girl that has no interest in world events at all not to see it.  You want to know a moment Jews totally blew their cover to the entire world for anyone who is even remotely intelligent?  During the Ron Paul presidential run/debates, every single candidate on stage talked about - and I'm not even kidding here - what they were going to do for Israel the entire time without even mentioning America once LOL.

I could not believe what I was watching and thought the candidates were doing a reverse play and trying to kiss up to their Jewish masters in every single breath to make it really obvious in hopes of exposing them on purpose.  That was the moment anyone who isn't a complete moron could tell Jews 100% control the entire American media, political system, foreign policy, everything.  You Marxist cuckolds always try to claim people are hallucinating when they notice things like this even though anyone with an internet connection can instantly verify they have a monopoly on media, banking, and the most powerful govt lobby (AIPAC).

When really smart people decade after decade after decade for hundreds of years constantly notice the exact same thing, this is not mass hallucination, it's reality.  Every single time they form a state within a state to try and defraud and enslave the native population, living off them as parasites with usury scams and media propaganda.  Woops, some guy named Charles Lindgbergh discovered the cause of the Syrian war almost every war:

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So...where are we on the chart with the Swamp of Despair and such?

I want to see that we're past the worst at least Tongue
Yes. We could go to $1 now and it would still be bullish.
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