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legendary
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Degenerate bull hatter & Bitcoin monotheist
Smoking cigarettes and watching Captain Kangaroo. Don’t tell me I’ve nothing to do.
legendary
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Cлaвa Укpaїнi!

Yes, bitcoin is death indeed Smiley

Was the death of my 'wage slave' job, I retired yesterday Jan 14th...all due to BTC....living on mining revenue and in HODL mode on BTC and other cryptos...

Spent today, puttering around the house doing chores....been a wage slave so long..kinda clueless on how to approach this...retiring early stuff...

kinda surreal in fact...., on what to do...I've no clue, yet, in that, once you wake up retired...everything suddenly is OPTIONAL..you need to do that day!

....clueless presently...but I'll figure it out!



Congratulations, I'm hoping to do the same this summer.
Isn't there something you like to do? Collecting coins or whatever. Just do the things you have always wanted to do, and do them in your own pace.
legendary
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Degenerate bull hatter & Bitcoin monotheist
Here is the chart to show long term how many ounces of gold to buy the DOW.   It does not of course include dividends given for ownership, but still its impressive how often gold proves a better idea then stocks to hold value

In the feudal era....
legendary
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yes
For gold lovers, the chart could better be inverted.
legendary
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Degenerate bull hatter & Bitcoin monotheist
Will it be 13k or 1MB blocks first?

Don’t you mean 8MB, I mean 4MB, no it’s 2MB, no I was right the first time it’s 8MB, why is it 2MB again blocks?
STT
legendary
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Sideways is boring, cmon we need drama we re addicted to that  Tongue

It's getting a little bit weird at this point. Since I joined this space there have rarely been periods (atleasy periods that lasted this long) where bitcoin was going kind of sideways in a slightly bearish fashion. Of course we can't forget the gains we've had last year but it still feels so not like bitcoin.

Its not really sideways so much as a wedge pattern which where we consolidate and will break out from.    Heres the chart from a trader I follow and his estimation:




Here is the chart to show long term how many ounces of gold to buy the DOW.   It does not of course include dividends given for ownership, but still its impressive how often gold proves a better idea then stocks to hold value

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@midmagic https://twitter.com/midmagic/status/953024852083945472
If this is what I think it is, this is one of the main former Ripple guys (Jed McCaleb) and Mark Karpeles talking directly about stealing BTC from their disused user accounts to make up for thefts:

Dear Lord:
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[Thu Mar 3 12:45:08 2011] mtgox: pass is: 3r56t

They are talking about root SSH to main MtGox server. What an amateur hour that was. Read the whole log if you have the stomach for it:
https://courts.ms.gov/newsite2/appellatecourts/docket/sendPDF.php?f=dc00001_live.SCT.17.M.1681.102741.5.pdf&c=87490&a=N&s=2

What about this one - the password is aaaaaaaa.

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[Sun Mar 6 09:45:57 2011] mtgox: do you want the mtgox forum account?
[Sun Mar 6 09:47:35 2011] Mark Karpelès: mh
[Sun Mar 6 09:47:42 2011] Mark Karpelès: I'd guess its email is @mtgox.com
[Sun Mar 6 09:47:56 2011] mtgox: yeah
[Sun Mar 6 09:48:42 2011] Mark Karpelès: ok
[Sun Mar 6 09:48:49 2011] Mark Karpelès: so I can easily reset it anyway
[Sun Mar 6 09:49:04 2011] mtgox: it is just: aaaaaaaa
[Sun Mar 6 09:49:11 2011] Mark Karpelès: heh
[Sun Mar 6 09:49:16 2011] Mark Karpelès: better change that quickly
[Sun Mar 6 09:49:17 2011] Mark Karpelès: :p
[Sun Mar 6 09:49:23 2011] mtgox: heh probably
[Sun Mar 6 09:50:22 2011] Mark Karpelès: done

They also give the stolen coins transaction. The 79k coins are still sitting there in 1FeexV6bAHb8ybZjqQMjJrcCrHGW9sb6uF

I wonder if Jed (edit: or whoever was the thief) will ever move them?

Edit: and this is where is all went so wrong:

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[Thu Apr 28 08:29:18 2011] Mark Karpelès: we got an incoming $25015.25 wire
[Thu Apr 28 08:29:43 2011] mtgox: in the euro account?
[Thu Apr 28 08:29:46 2011] Mark Karpelès: yours
[Thu Apr 28 08:29:50 2011] Mark Karpelès: US domestic wire
[Thu Apr 28 08:29:57 2011] Mark Karpelès: for account MemoryDealers
[Thu Apr 28 08:30:08 2011] mtgox: ok
legendary
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Would it be a stretch to say that there are too many people on the planet?

Yes. Estimates are the planet can support about 10 billion, which we should reach in about the year 2100.

Watch this and be amazed.

https://www.ted.com/talks/hans_rosling_on_global_population_growth?language=sv#t-101139
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UPDATE     AND GOOD LUCK


You might be here a while @mcgoossens!   Grin
legendary
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Self-Custody is a right. Say no to"Non-custodial"


Something's got to give.

Will it be 13k or 1MB blocks first?


Why don't stop presenting a false dichotomy and get off your big blocker propaganda spreading ass and buy some bitcoins?

 Tongue
legendary
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Something's got to give.

Will it be 13k or 1MB blocks first?

13k it looks like. Looks like another good buy area to me.
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Crypto is King.


Something's got to give.

Will it be 13k or 1MB blocks first?
legendary
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mtgox: ok I think I'm going to sell off a bunch this weekend. Maybe place a dark buy order around $1.5 just incase others do as well?

Mark Karpelès: I don't see things going down to $1.5 this weekend

Mark Karpelès: maybe $2.2

mtgox: if I sell 20k they will

Mark Karpelès: oh

Mark Karpelès: Smiley

mtgox: so put it low enough where I don't hit it

Mark Karpelès: let's say 80k BTC, that's 120k$

Mark Karpelès: let's give gox bot a loan big enough for this

mtgox: ok. maybe better for a new account so the accounting is more clear?

Mark Karpelès: not much of a problem, gox bot's balance is not authoritative anymore anyway

^ THAT sounds like a shit show  Cheesy

*edit
There was some sly comment about PoS and non-authoritative chains but I've forgotten...

legendary
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diamond-handed zealot
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mtgox: ok I think I'm going to sell off a bunch this weekend. Maybe place a dark buy order around $1.5 just incase others do as well?

Mark Karpelès: I don't see things going down to $1.5 this weekend

Mark Karpelès: maybe $2.2

mtgox: if I sell 20k they will

Mark Karpelès: oh

Mark Karpelès: Smiley

mtgox: so put it low enough where I don't hit it

Mark Karpelès: let's say 80k BTC, that's 120k$

Mark Karpelès: let's give gox bot a loan big enough for this

mtgox: ok. maybe better for a new account so the accounting is more clear?

Mark Karpelès: not much of a problem, gox bot's balance is not authoritative anymore anyway
legendary
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Friends, family, co-workers, Bcash noobs it's always the same story; they will never learn Undecided


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I thought the "Nothing-at-Stake" problem is well understood by now, i.e. large PoS stakeholder will just "mine" every fork since it cost zilch to do so.  So people falling that kind of scam, thinking that they would be earning "interest" from doing nothing is going to get screwed by the whales.
legendary
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diamond-handed zealot
^ THAT sounds like a shit show
sr. member
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Don't even get me started on some of those youtube accounts. Like those 3 douchenozzles that made their money flipping cars and are suddenly crypto experts and telling people to buy shitcoins like paccoin. When will people stop falling for pump and dump schemes? Bitcoin is king.

Speaking of good old Paccoin, it seems to be in a bit of trouble at the moment. POS is a minefield:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.28187000


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the chain is constantly forking which is a huge problem. The forks are caused by a flaw in the SetBestChain logic. PoS blocks of a lower height (aka. blocks that should be less trustworthy and rejected) are being accepted as valid and erasing valid PoW, PoS, and transactions. The net effect is that work is being lost / wasted while older PoS account are benefiting from a reduced coin supply and the ability to wipe out, in some cases, hours or work by other miners. Worse, transactions are being lost into the void. If you scan the block chain manually you can find plenty of transactions that were sent on one chain, then overwritten, and are currently sitting in the chain with 0 confirms despite being valid transactions because they were eaten on a fork. I've seen some for well over a million PAC get lost to the void -- which is a MASSIVE problem.
legendary
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Self-Custody is a right. Say no to"Non-custodial"
that...would be a lower low

perhaps momentary tape painting...remains to be seen


Means that we be going down?    

if so:    Cry Cry Cry


Except some of us be taking advantage of such and buying some more:    Cheesy Cheesy      right? Wink  

if cryptolocker(extortionist software) is hacked >_> bitcoin crashes to zero? :-D lol





I don't understand how you come to any of your implied conclusions.  1) there is some kind direct negative correlation with cryptolocker and btc price, or 2) such supposed negative correlation would drive btc prices to zero  - and even if your underlying logic is correct, what are the odds, like .00001%   ... Why would we spend more than a fraction of a second (which surely is less time than I spent to write this inquiry post) considering some baloney .00001% odds event(s)?


one theory is that EVERYONE is wrong and that is the ONLY thing driving the price up..  Wink  ha ~ just a thought...prolly way off*


That is one of the goofiest fucking theories that I have ever heard.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


legendary
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lose: unfind ... loose: untight
Do you claim that every BTC user runs a fully-validating, non-mining wallet client (often erroneously referred to as a 'full node')? Do you claim that no BCH user runs a fully-validating, non-mining wallet client? If the answers respectively are not 'yes' and 'yes', then I fail to see what your point is. Neither is purely peer-to-peer, and neither is purely client-server.

Per your rationale, if BTC, say, has 20.000 nodes and BCH has 20 nodes, they are the same, in their neither being pure p2p or pure client/server... yet, if you aren't intellectually dishonest, you realize that there is a big quality difference.

Of course jbreher's being intellectually rogueish. He's smart enough to know better.

Smart enough to know that nobody of 'normal' means that truly wants to run a fully-validating, non-mining wallet client -- be it BTC or BCH -- is unable to do so.
But but... farmers in Africa?
But but... the democratic finance that Ver says he dreams of, while Bitcoin forgot it and it's only for the elites?

It's the same concept at the basis of PoW: Working must be hard, checking must be easy. And stay easy.

So what is your point here? Do you assert that farmers in Africa are able to run a fully-validating, non-mining wallet client for BTC are fully able to, but are utterly unable to do so for BCH?
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